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To say please don't go to your second home

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Beesisabuzzin · 19/03/2020 07:04

With talk of London going into lockdown tomorrow can I remind second home owners that Cornwall has one hospital. Devon has four hospitals. Where I live in Devon there is no food in any of the supermarkets. Please, please stay away, our communities cannot deal with an influx.

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UYScuti · 22/03/2020 11:31

people are turning up in caravans and others getting much needed delivey items delivered and bragging they got away from London
You can take photos you can name and shame on social media?
if/when things get ugly these folks may wish they had kept their mouths shut and not bragged about behaviour which in hindsight looks very very selfish and antisocial

Astrid09 · 22/03/2020 11:38

@Toomuchtrouble4me
Actually I've been self isolating as soon as the government advised the vulnerable groups to do so. I have an autoimmune disease as well as being born with a mobility condition. So don't assume I'm not. I'm just doing were I've lived for 40years. I also have a son with severe asthma who as been off school long before they closed the schools. My mum lives on her own and can't leave for anything due to her health she's finding tough like every other elderly person living on their own.
You said you couldn't self isolate at you home due to you're husbands job? So every person who has an essential job who has a child/partner with asthma has to move out so they can get on with said job? That's ridiculous I know some essential workers with asthmatic kids who still live with them but who follow the strict guidelines so they dont effect their loved ones. Most NHS workers dont have the pleasure of a second home and make do.
Making fun off my spelling is very childish especially as I'm dyslexic and trying to make do with auto correct but clicked the wrong word. But if it made you feel a bit better about yourself fire away.
Leave with what the government have said;
For there to be essential travel ONLY, that's to your place of work if not able to work from home, to go out to collect shopping or medication.
People should not go to their holiday homes as the local infrastructure can't manage with the extra amount of people.
But you're (got it right this time) special, (not like all the other spouses of an essential worker.) and can travel to your second home because you and child have asthma and your dad is a bit stressed you just did it Stuff all the other asthmatics and elderly struggling living on their own, you and yours are safe that's ok.

EmpressoftheMundane · 22/03/2020 12:06

If we don’t want people moving around the country. We need a clear directive from government that will cause holiday maker’s travel insurance to kick in.

Otherwise, you are asking either the holiday maker to bear the loss completely altruistically with no subsidy.

On the other hand holiday cottage owners could refund the money to holiday makers out of concern for their local community. Is that happening anywhere?

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/03/2020 13:23

So every person who has an essential job who has a child/partner with asthma has to move out so they can get on with said job?
No, they don't have to, but they may decide to, if they have the option, which I do. I think isolation will save my father's life and that is my priority. I don’t care how much you bleat, the very vast majority of people would do the same if they genuinely thought that the lives of loved ones were threatened and it could be avoided by a car journey and isolation.

tryingtoprep · 22/03/2020 14:10

My God. People talking about locals getting priority food, hospital access... Can you imagine if London-born Londoners said that!? Imagine the outage. As for racism. Just as some here are generalising about Londoners, same generalisation applies to places like Cornwall, Suffolk, Norfolk. All have a reputation not only for hostility and insularity towards all non locals but also for racist attitudes to non white people. Of course the racists are a minority (I hope). Likewise London dwellers who have second homes. People choosing to live in London? Some don't. Some were born there and have elderly parents to care for, or are sick or disabled so cannot easily move. Some perhaps are intimated by anti London hostility displayed by people from other areas (who in return have no problem moving to London thereby contributing to the housing crisis).

Yes there is a certain type of affluent person. Many, but not all, live in London although often come from elsewhere in the UK originally. Yes they can be arrogant and superior and put pressure on housing and local facilities - but they do this in London too.

I've signed the petition for a lockdown. It needs to mean people stop moving around straight away. Meaning those not at home should stay wherever they currently are rather than yet more travelling around.

Toomuchtroubleforme is doing what anyone in her position would do to protect her family. She's not mingling with anyone so why begrudge her that. I only wish I could do the same.

tryingtoprep · 22/03/2020 14:18

Thinking about "spreaders". Before the recent exodus from cities, the main spreaders seemed to be the Italy ski holiday people. Many, if not most, were not Londoners.

Also thinking about it I'd say our MPs were/are quite possibly spreaders. Living and working in London during the week then travelling back to their constituencies across the UK every weekend. Two (or is it more?) are confirmed cases but it's likely the true number of MP cases is higher.

daisypond · 22/03/2020 14:20

the main spreaders seemed to be the Italy ski holiday people. Many, if not most, were not Londoners.
None of the initial cases were in London. They were in York, Brighton, etc.

savechanges35 · 22/03/2020 15:24

Nobody seems upset about the the Cheltenham Festival, Bath Half Marathon or the huge Cardiff concert recently, people from everywhere, travelling all over, people from your communities.

Your prejudice against London/Londoners runs deep and it started way before this virus.

Yesterday when someone posted a map of London, saying "keep your infection", I was truly shocked.

It is not 'our' infection (London), it is everywhere. I know some people have it at Uni they have all moved home. The university has approx. 30,000 students, all gone home, all over the country. That is ONE university and it is not a London university.

It is amongst all of us, for so many reasons.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 22/03/2020 15:26

It's not racism or insular to repeat a very simple message -

Small communities CANNOT COPE with a sudden influx of extra population. We do not have the resources to provide the food needed, we do not have the medical facilities should anyone fall ill.

I empathise with people wanting to escape, but you will not help yourselves, only endanger others.

halcyondays · 22/03/2020 15:34

Actually there was a lot of criticism at the time about Cheltenham and it seems some people did get infected there, not surprising. And plenty said the Bath half Marathon should have been cancelled.

Carbosug · 22/03/2020 15:38

There was fury here in Ireland over selfish people goi g ahead with their plans to fly over to Cheltenham. Didn't stop the thick, ignorant bellends who then happily flew back defiantly insisting that they had done nothing wrong Angry

savechanges35 · 22/03/2020 15:40

I was talking about on here (this thread), I was trying to make a point on HERE that there is a lot of mud slinging at just London.

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 22/03/2020 16:12

All the second-home owners I know are Boomers, not Londoners. They're all in their sixties and all haves places in the Lakes, Northumberland, down south and in the Alps.

GinnyStrupac · 22/03/2020 16:12

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THOSE NOT UP TO SPEED OR STILL IN DENIAL

Everyone is now saying do not travel to your second homes or for holidays or for day trips to the seaside or walks in the countryside - the government, tourist boards, the police, everyone.

This is not about where you live, where you are from, who you are, what your individual worries are - this means all of us.

After what I have seen through my own window today as I care for a vulnerable family member and seen reported on the news, the time for lockdown has come, because many people simply can not be trusted to do the right thing. In fact, lockdown should have been put in to force earlier, just like school closures.

MNnicknameforCVthreads · 22/03/2020 16:17

Just posting the link to the petition again

Implement Lockdown

Mamimawr · 22/03/2020 16:23

Ot's a guge problem in north west Wales. The number of IT beds are decided by the regular popualation, not including tourits / second home owners. Gwynedd County Council has said the following -

In light of the unprecedented Coronovirus Covid-19 situation, Gwynedd Council is urging people not to visit the area and to return home if they are already in Gwynedd. By doing this, they will be protecting themselves, the people of Gwynedd and essential health and care services.

More information here: www.gwynedd.llyw.cymru/en/Council/News/Press-releases/March-2020/Gwynedd-Council-urges-tourists-to-stay-at-home.aspx

SuburbanCrofter · 22/03/2020 16:52

I see Devon and Cornwall have an official campaign now - #comebacklater

Astrid09 · 22/03/2020 16:56

Just seen on the news ALL of those who've gone to their second/holiday homes are to leave there and to go home immediately. This is nothing against people from London it's about all those moving to their rural 2nd/holiday homes. I signed the petition over 350,000 others wanting lockdown. I think it's the next step as Scotland and Wales are angry so many flocking to their 2nd homes.

ineedsun · 22/03/2020 16:59

There has always been an insular mindset from some in these more remote communities but right now they have a bloody good point. It is wrong on all levels to travel from one place to somewhere else to get away from a highly populated (and therefore affected) area to a less populated one.

Just like it's wrong to go for some fresh air to a tourist area.

Some people are really fucking disappointing.

daisypond · 22/03/2020 17:05

Just seen on the news ALL of those who've gone to their second/holiday homes are to leave there and to go home immediately.
Which news? Which area? I’m listening now and can hear nothing like this.

FrankieManca · 22/03/2020 17:06

All the second-home owners I know are Boomers, not Londoners. They're all in their sixties

I do know people in their 60s with holiday homes...but I also know plenty in their early 40s.

Get a big career, have kids, but a holiday cottage somewhere to enjoy with the kids, keep it til you are in your 60s of 70s, enjoy your long retirement weekends, and eventually pass it on to your grown up kids.

GinnyStrupac · 22/03/2020 17:13

It's everywhere - all the National Parks, rural villages, seaside towns, beauty spots and honey pots. Looking out, it has been like a bank holiday weekend or height of summer. The lanes and village have been turned in to a car park by these selfish fools. The air is thick with car pollution, never mind the virus. Having called our local village shop to see if they had an essential item in stock, I was told sadly not - the locusts have descended and stripped the shelves virtually bare, having probably done the same to their local shops and supermarkets. I'm not sure when our village shop will get more stock in, for those of us who actually live here and rely on it. In the meantime we will have to go without - and our vulnerable family member will too.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 22/03/2020 22:45

twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1241845632932904969?s=20

Toomuchtrouble4me · 23/03/2020 01:25

daisypond

Just seen on the news ALL of those who've gone to their second/holiday homes are to leave there and to go home immediately.
Which news? Which area? I’m listening now and can hear nothing like this

Which news? Can’t find it.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 23/03/2020 01:34

Unless you stay in 'Sea View' and don't leave it the whole time, please keep your infection in Kensington. We don't have the capacity to look after you

It’s not ‘our’ infection ffs. And I really couldn’t give a rotten sausage up a rats arse if you don’t like me. I’m saving my dads life.