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Lockdown conditions in France

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CroissantsAtDawn · 17/03/2020 06:01

Ive seen lots of threads with people worrying about lockdown.and how they would cope/ it would be enforced.

Last night, following the President's announcement I received a text message from the government confirming the lockdown for 15 days and linking to a site with details.

From 12 today we are only allowed out to go to work if work from home isnt possible, buy groceries, see a doctor, help elderly/vulnerable family in need (with reminder about barrier actions), to let a dog do its business or for individual physical activity close to home.

Each time you need a paper dated and signed explaining why you are out. Infringements are fined 38-135 euros. The paper can be downloaded and printed, shown on your phone or just hand written.

100 000 police and army personnel are being deployed to enforce the conditions.

No mention of how children can exercise. Just that parks etc are closed and there should be no family or friends gathering.

We are going to test going out early for run with 1 DC each and hope that is allowed in "individual activity". If its not I ll stand on the doorstep and watch them run up and down the road (2 highly active boys living in a flat....)

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 05:54

I havent seen a new one though ive looked for one. In the news it said just to write the time on the old one.

Also unfortunately it said you can't use a pencil. We've been doing that to save paper (and we dont have a printer so DH printed a load at the office last week and hasn't been back since)
We still havent ever been stopped.

DH thinks the pencil rule is just to try and discourage people from going out. Unless you have a printer, handwriting the declaration every time is time consuming

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 05:59

And for the first time Ive found they've said you can take the DC out. Again respecting 1km, 1hr max. They also said "alone" so we re still assuming 1 parent at a time.

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Roseau18 · 25/03/2020 07:16

The new one is on the government website where the old one was (can't work out how to post the link on my phone).

CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 07:21

Ah mince. DH has just gone out with the old one (with time on it)

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AuldAlliance · 25/03/2020 08:29

We've been using erasable pens and changing the date, to save paper.
I think the pencil thing may just be linked to the fact that all official papers must be completed in ink, though I could be wrong.
New attestation:
www.gouvernement.fr/sites/default/files/contenu/piece-jointe/2020/03/attestation-deplacement-fr-20200324.pdf
Prenez soin de vous...

CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 08:56

Erasable pens is a good idea thanks! I'm so glad that we have loads of school supplies here. The first year my DS1 was at school we didn't realise he'd need so many refills so we just bought what was on the list...

Now we have a huge stock of pens, glue, crayons, felt tips, erasers, etc. The only thing we might run out of is fountain pen ink if this goes on beyond May. I still can't get over them starting to use fountain pens in CP!!!! DS1 is currently CE2 and gets through a lot of ink.

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 08:57

And thanks for the link

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 08:58

Interesting that new declaration says you can go out to exercise with people you live with. I'm assuming that's only really aimed at children.

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kersh33 · 25/03/2020 09:04

I was just coming on here to make sure everyone knew about the new derogation form too, but glad to see the info was already out there.

They've also made each reason that bit longer which is going to be a pain to write out each time!! We have a printer but the ink is so expensive I've been writing them out on paper. I now manage to get 8 derogations on 1 piece of A4 - 4 on each side. Will need to see if I can still manage it with the new wording.

I only ever write the reason for which I am going out though, I don't bother about the others. Only been stopped once so far and the police were very nice. Wasn't overly keen on handing it over and getting back though - picked it up from a bit she hadn't touched and then it went straight into my coat pocket and then in the bin when I got home. Not that great for them having to handle so many pieces of paper either I imagine.

KatharinaRosalie · 25/03/2020 09:54

Croissants fountain pens? Mine is in CP and they don't. Why on earth, it's not 18th century.

Our local gendarmerie said you can use the old forms if you write time on them, so I guess that will be one of those things where everybody has their own opinion..

Makiwa · 25/03/2020 10:03

Fountain pens are part and parcel of the education nationale but CP is starting really early. My DD2 is in CM1 and they practiced using them this term but as part of their art lesson. She and my DS are both left handers. His work was always a spidery mess despite using a fountain pen for lefties.

missclimpson · 25/03/2020 10:41

DH just back from weekly Drive shopping. No milk (in Normandy!), no ham, no oranges. Apart from that everything was there except my normal lemon and nettle shampoo. They gave me verveine et thé instead. Perhaps they saw from the name that we are English....
No gendarmes to be seen.

CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 10:44

CP did strike me as very young (I was still using a pencil aged 10 in the UK). Its a private (but not international) school in Paris - this may or may not make a difference I suppose.

We also had to buy one specific brand (Lamy) which is for beginners. DS1 has bad handwriting (for Frenchies - compared to mine at the same age it's beautiful cursive script) but gets on ok with ink, although he gets ink all over his fingers and face Hmm

I was convinced he'd snap the nib in CP but maybe using fountain pens stops them pressing down too hard.

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 10:45

We can't do Drive or home deliveries in Paris at the moment Sad

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 10:47

At least not with Carrefour like we usually do. Didnt try anyone else.

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missclimpson · 25/03/2020 11:39

We have Leclerc and Carrefour at 14km. We have tried both, but today was Carrefour. I think very few people use it normally so it is still possible here. DH said the most dangerous thing is that nobody is expecting to meet another car on our rural back roads.
My time-saving discovery of the day was to fill in the top of the attestation with all the details and then photocopy it on the printer.

KatharinaRosalie · 25/03/2020 12:56

I've typed in all the details in pdf editor, printed the forms out and now only check and sign each one as needed.
Have to do some shopping today and the drives here are not good, very limited selection. Honestly getting quite stressed as there are now several people I know sick with this thing..

Roseau18 · 25/03/2020 12:59

My daughter's both used a fountain-pen in CP in the local French state primary school. The elder one was even taught to copy words in joined-up writing in Grande section before she had even learnt how to read!

My region has stopped doing daily lists of how many cases per département - I was reassuring myself that there were virtually none where I live.

CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 13:18

Yup my son in GS is writing words in joined up letters. I do find they learn to read fast and to a high level in CP. Amazed at what my eldest could read after a month. Looking forward to that next year for DS2, as long as education isn't impacted too much Confused

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CroissantsAtDawn · 25/03/2020 13:20

I know lots of people with the virus. Some have a temperature over 40 for 11 days and counting

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Frothybothie · 25/03/2020 13:27

Dont worry, in the "no go zones" there's no lockdown because Covid is "a white mans disease". NOT

Makiwa · 25/03/2020 13:29

CroissantsAtDawn wow that's a long, high fever. We're they at home for all that time? Our town has set up a Covid19 centre to separate potentially contagious people from ordinarily ill people (if you see what I mean). GPs are on a 4 hour rotation there (the time one mask lasts) so they aren't in contact with the virus all day, every day.

KatharinaRosalie · 25/03/2020 13:37

I have one in moyenne and one in CP. The latter writes in cursive but with either pencil or I think just normal ball point pen, from what I can see.

I'm in Grand Est, so can't really reassure me that there are no cases here. We're the second after Paris, with of course far fewer people.

As for Paris, I wonder how much the Yellow vests with their several hundred people rally in Paris on the 14th contributed to the Paris numbers.

NonUrinatInVentum · 25/03/2020 13:43

I've got one in Terminale doing the OIB with ENP - has anyone heard anything about the OIB exams? We're in Ain, near the border with Switzerland and her friends in school in Switzerland have been told that their BAC is going to be based on the cumulative moyenne to date. I haven't seen anything from the education ministry and the ENP teachers don't seem to know what's going on in the French national section when it comes to exams.

clearsommespace · 25/03/2020 14:03

Hi All
I'm in Hauts de France.
About local suppliers, the stand I buy veg from at the farmer's market also operates sells direct one evening a week. You have to order a veg box in advance so we may get a few things we don't normally eat but I'll be glad to support them. They also supply the local Intermarché for certain products anyway. Hopefully they will be able to sell a wider range via Intermarché.

Our local Intermarché is also selling Easter chocolates made by a local chocolatier. I was pleased to see that as there is not going to be much demand for their chocolate hens and bells when they are allowed to reopen.