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The 'Positive Mental Health' Corona virus thread Part III

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DaffodilThatch · 16/03/2020 18:27

Think would be good to keep this thread going! Will link to the previous threads in a bit.

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HonestlyItsFine · 21/03/2020 22:34

I read only some people need intensive care Honestly, maybe they will be caring for patients not needing that level of care? Not sure.
Yes, I think the figures were something like:
10% may need hospital care
5% of those people may need ITU.
(that's off the top of my head and may be wrong!)
8k extra beds and almost 1k extra ventilators is very, very good news though.
There's also plans for floating hospitals in the form of cruise ships- presumably for more stable cases.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-cruise-firm-saga-offers-two-ships-as-floating-hospitals-11960495

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 22/03/2020 02:56

We had the most delicious Italian takeaway for dinner tonight and watched Casablanca with the DDs. They loved it.

Inkpaperstars · 22/03/2020 03:12

@AutumnRose1

They are going to be doing Mallory Towers on iplayer, not sure If it has started yet but if your mum read the books when she was younger she might like it.

Millie2013 · 22/03/2020 06:42

DaffodilPasta (can’t tag) OH and I were having the discussion about people who are EOL yesterday and how cause of death was recorded. Makes sense that the death rate may be over estimated
I hope you don’t mind me asking, is the post circulating on Facebook about asthma rescue packs accurate? We always have 3 days of steroids here for DD, but not antibiotics

Millie2013 · 22/03/2020 06:47

Happy Mother’s Day to the mums!

Thankfully, I picked up a little “paint your own” canvas in Poundland and smuggled it to DD, via my mum. She spent ages painting it yesterday. I’d told OH not to get me anything as didn’t want him going to the shops

Another mum picked up DD’s mother’s day card from school on Friday too and she’s going to drop it round this morning. These things are so important when you’re seven ❤️

Eebahgumlass · 22/03/2020 06:58

Happy mother's day everyone. Has anyone posted yet about the small french study showing promising results for hydrixochloroquine and azithromicyn? www.mediterranee-infection.com/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-as-a-treatment-of-covid-19/

Also saw on my LinkedIn a post from someone at Novartis saying if hydrixochloroquine proves effective they will give 130 million doses. Promising although obviously needs more testing.

Spudlet · 22/03/2020 07:13

Happy Mothers Day all. DH is pretty hopeless at sorting things out on behalf of DS but I did get a lovely picture he made at preschool, and I’m hoping for a bit of a lie-in, perhaps. At the moment, DS has got into bed with us and DH is still determinedly asleep though...Hmm

Siameasy · 22/03/2020 07:13

What’s this about Mallory Towers on iPlayer ink? I was obsessed with those books.

BrightonBB · 22/03/2020 07:54

@Millie2013 Asthma packs is fake news.

Our Dr Surgery posted

An INCORRECT post is currently circulating on Facebook that says all COPD and Asthma patients can get a 'Rescue Pack' from their GP surgery containing a short supply of Steroids and Antibiotics.

THIS INFORMATION IS NOT CORRECT and is causing a high volume of calls to the surgery at an already incredibly busy time.

'Rescue Packs' are available for SOME COPD patients ONLY and these patients will already have their supply in place organised by their GP previously.

BrightonBB · 22/03/2020 07:56

Forget all the fake news on this beautiful day with the sun shining.

Orangeblossom78 · 22/03/2020 08:17

Also with the private hospitals it will keep people with the virus away from the main NHS hospitals which would be great.

happy Mothers day, woken here by my two boys with home made painted cards and flowers Flowers and cuppa Brew

very sweet, then we watched cute animal videos on Youtube for a bit.

Looks a sunny day again for us all.

Orangeblossom78 · 22/03/2020 08:18

Radio 6 music is good, just does a short news summary and lots of good music, finding it helpful. Might just try and stick to that from now on for news

StCharlotte · 22/03/2020 08:25

So happy to see the sunshine (although It's still chilly). I'm now in self-isolation and wfh for the duration. DH is a key worker.

But today we will work hard on the garden together (which be lovely in itself) so that it's a lovely space for me to get some fresh air in the coming months (and this thread continues to be my "emotional garden" Smile). We have an exercise bike which I will now use "before work".

I'm very sociable and will miss company very much but I am good at being alone so will be channelling my "inner Norwegian" Grin

I'm so thankful to have a funny, helpful and loving DH.

Orangeblossom78 · 22/03/2020 09:06

For anyone who is being out off going our for a walk / run, see this from the NHS today

Sir Muir Gray, 75, a senior adviser to the health service and director of the Optimal Ageing Programme, said: “We can either view this as 12 weeks of custodial sentence or reimagine it as going to a health spa.

“In the coming weeks there will not only be physical deterioration — stiffness, loss of strength — but also a loss of cognitive abilities and an increased risk of dementia.

“There will be a loss of emotional wellbeing from engagement with others and depression. We call it deconditioning syndrome.”

Figures from a step-counting mobile app, Sweatcoin, show that Britons appear to be hanging onto healthy habits despite the restrictions on everyday life.

On Tuesday, the day after Boris Johnson said it was time to act “like any wartime government”, our step-count dropped by a modest 4.7% compared with the same day of the week a month ago. By Thursday it was down 6%.

Across Europe, by contrast, the picture was of enforced inactivity on the same day. In Spain, step counts were down 69% by Thursday compared with the same day of the week a month ago, with France down 58%, Italy 52%, the Netherlands 30%, Germany 24% and Turkey 17%. Only in Australia did activity levels rise, up by 1%.

Anton Derlyatka, chief executive of Sweatcoin, which has 400,000 regular users in the UK and 5m worldwide, said: “These are uncertain times but there is nothing to prevent us from going for a walk or run in the nearest park. We may have reduced our activity if we no longer commute, but we can keep the numbers up by remaining healthy and positive.”

Aside from Moran’s appearances on the BBC, she and Gray intend to launch an online workout programme. There will be an episode every day of the 12-week period of social distancing, each lasting 3 minutes and 59.4 seconds — the time it took Roger Bannister to crest the line when he broke the four-minute mile in 1954.

*Stamina
Thirty minutes of brisk walking a day. Even bursts of two minutes can be beneficial. Use the NHS app (bit.ly/fit_health_tips).

If confined indoors, do a sit-to-stand exercise: get up from a chair without using your arms, repeat once for each decade. Hold a 1kg bag in each hand if you can.

Skill
Stand on one leg whenever you clean your teeth for two minutes, morning and evening.

Suppleness
Yoga, pilates, t’ai chi or Alexander technique. Try the monkey stretch: place feet 1ft apart, swing arms forward and stretch to ceiling.

Presents
Don’t ask for cardigans and boxes of chocolates. Nordic walking poles, new trainers or yoga courses would be much better.

Source: Sir Muir Gray, NHS adviser*

Orangeblossom78 · 22/03/2020 09:06

That was advice for the over 70s on their 12 week stint but could be useful to all.

gingerbreadslice · 22/03/2020 09:14

Is anyone else's grandparents threatening to kill one another yet? It's only been a few days and there driving each other batty already ShockGrin I had a text from my Nana saying if Coronavirus doesn't harm my granddad she will. Good to see they are keeping one another's spirits up!

Orangeblossom78 · 22/03/2020 09:23

Thought you might like this also, in the paper today, on community spirit and kindness, with ideas as well

Aid packs for the elderly as thousands volunteer for the home front
The Covid-19 crisis is unleashing public spirit
Martin Fletcher
Saturday March 21 2020, 6.00pm, The Sunday Times

Asiyah and Jawad Javed are using savings to provide packs of daily necessities to elderly people in Falkirk

Two weeks ago Asiyah and Jawad Javed found an elderly woman crying outside a supermarket because she could not buy any handwash or sanitiser.

The couple, who own a Falkirk corner shop called Day Today Express, decided to act. Using £2,000 of savings, the Javeds began putting together bags of soap, gel and masks and delivering them free to elderly people in the neighbourhood after closing time. They have since delivered more than 2,000 bags costing £2 each. Their supplier, United Wholesale, has contributed £1,000. Customers have donated several hundred pounds, too, and volunteered to deliver the bags.

Even the Javeds’ three children, aged five to 14, emptied their piggy banks and gave the money they had saved for a cancelled holiday in Spain. “The community has come together,” said Asiyah, who has been overwhelmed by the response.

It is not a lone story of altruism. Tales of people hoarding food and brawling in supermarket aisles obscure a different national narrative: that of a country pulling together at a time of crisis. We are rediscovering the spirit of the Blitz or the 2012 Olympics, and replacing the ugly divisions of Brexit with something akin to the “big society” that David Cameron tried but failed to deliver.

Eleven days ago Seren John-Wood, 24, a student at University College London, was unable to concentrate on a cognitive neuroscience lecture because of the constant coronavirus news updates on her phone. She took out her laptop and created, there and then, a leaflet calling for volunteers and inviting the old and vulnerable to get in touch.

That evening she posted it on the Facebook site of a friend’s new community group in Lewisham, southeast London, and it went viral. More than 1,800 Covid-19 Mutual Aid groups like Lewisham’s have sprung up in cities, towns and villages across the country.

Together they comprise an army of between 500,000 and a million volunteers who are delivering leaflets like John-Wood’s door to door to help those in need however they can. They shop, pick up prescriptions, walk dogs or simply talk to the self-isolated on the telephone — ordinary acts that amount to an extraordinary act of national kindness.

“It’s been completely incredible and massively inspiring,” says John-Wood. “What’s happening reveals how motivated people are to connect with those around them and show solidarity, especially post-Brexit where there’s a lot of division and alienation.”

The talk is all of social isolation but the opposite is happening, adds Kevin Smith, a de facto spokesman for the Covid-19 Mutual Aid movement. “It’s massively ramping up people’s interconnectivity in their communities in a way I’ve never experienced before.”

Similar examples of public spiritedness abound. The Feeding Britain organisation has amassed 1,000 volunteers for an initiative to feed 60,000 impoverished children who would normally depend on school meals.

The Made in Hackney community cookery school has raised £33,000 to deliver free meals to several hundred homes in the east London borough. From this week Egremont Primary School in the Wirral, an area of high deprivation, will use its school kitchens to feed at least 200 local children.

Ealing Foodbank in west London has lost more than 30 older volunteers but gained more than 50 younger ones. “There are all sorts of stories about panic-buying and how horrible people are, but there are also wonderful people doing what they can to help keep organisations like ours going,” said Janet Fletcher, its manager.

Asda is to give £5m to food bank operators FareShare and the Trussell Trust, with a package of measures that will provide four million meals to families affected by the virus. Emma Revie, chief executive of the Trussell Trust, said she had been “overwhelmed” by the support.

Alex Sobel, Labour MP for Leeds North West, had 1,400 replies after calling for volunteers on his Facebook page last weekend. “It is incredibly moving how many are willing to put the welfare of others first and help in any way that they can,” he said.

Karl Wilding, head of the National Council for Voluntary Organisations, said charities’ revenues had evaporated as fundraising events had been axed. “I’m quite concerned we’re going to see some household name charities fail. It’s that bad.”

Charities depend heavily on retired volunteers who are now self-isolating, but younger people are coming forward to take their place.

British Red Cross has had more than 17,000 people sign up in 10 days, compared with 981 in the first 10 weeks of the year. “We’ve been overwhelmed by the kindness thousands of people have shown by signing up to join us as community reserve volunteers,” said Mike Adamson, its chief executive.

Crisis, the charity for the homeless, enlisted 700 volunteers in 24 hours.

Emma Revie, chief executive of the Trussell Trust, which runs a network of 420 food banks around Britain, said her organisation had been “overwhelmed” by the support.

Some celebrities have stepped up to the mark too. Luke Barnes, the Game of Thrones actor, has raised £5,000 to support out-of-work artists in Liverpool. Wilfried Zaha, the Crystal Palace star, has offered NHS workers free use of 50 rental properties he owns in London, and Roman Abramovich, Chelsea’s owner, has offered a hotel at the club’s Stamford Bridge ground. Manchester City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Stenhousemuir and Stevenage have set up programmes to support fans, as has Wasps rugby club.

Then there is the legion of individual good samaritans doing what they can to alleviate the hardship with small, simple acts of kindness in their neighbourhoods.

Nick Jones, 68, a retired City banker, is baking bread and making soup twice a week for the elderly of Wellington, his village in Herefordshire. Geoff Sacklyn, 59, a postman, is delivering food as well as mail to older people on his round in Clevedon, near Bristol.

And last week an unknown artist chalked a 20ft mural on the pavement outside King’s College Hospital in southeast London. Beside the NHS logo, he or she wrote: “Get well soon, everyone X.”

How you can join up and help your neighbours

Join the Red Cross
Sign up as a reserve volunteer to help your local community. No specialist skills are needed, the Red Cross will provide training. The only requirement is that you are over 18. reserves.redcross.org.uk

Volunteer at local food bank
In the weeks ahead, food banks will need extra volunteers to help sort and pack donations in their warehouses, collect donations from supermarkets and deliver food to those in greatest need. trusselltrust.org/get-involved/volunteer

Volunteering with Shelter or Crisis will help the vulnerable homeless

HANNAH MCKAY
Help the homeless
Rough-sleepers, who often have underlying health conditions and weakened immune systems, are particularly vulnerable to the virus, and have no ability to self-isolate. Volunteer with Shelter or Crisis to help. england.shelter.org.uk/support_us/volunteer, crisis.org.uk/get-involved/volunteer

Protect women and children from violence
Victims of domestic violence are expected to be at heightened risk during the coronavirus outbreak. Refuge needs volunteers to staff its 24-hour helpline and support its team. refuge.org.uk/get-involved/jobs-volunteering

Give your time locally
Many local residents have set up “mutual aid” groups to help those most affected by the coronavirus and the need to self-isolate. Volunteers have been buying groceries for neighbours, picking up prescriptions and walking dogs. Check on Facebook or with neighbours to see if there is a group locally, or set up your own.

To join or form a group, go to covidmutualaid.org

MinesaPinot · 22/03/2020 10:08

I am swinging between relatively calm and absolute uncontrolled terror at the moment. Watched the news last night and keep on crying. Must Get A Grip. The sun is shining, just about to put the washing out and DH is here with me. Spoke to my mum (83) and she is very calm. That generation seem to be the calmest. Probably because they've got no social media to intrude on their thoughts and time. She's settling in today with choccies and the telly.

CommanderShepard · 22/03/2020 10:10

I'm feeling so low today. I'm desperately trying to find good news and can't find any. I can't switch off my brain and the more I try the more anxious I get.

Going to try doing some yoga with my children, I think. And DH discovered the restaurant we would've gone out to does delivery so we're still having a mother's Day tea.

moita · 22/03/2020 10:11

Lovely post Orangeblossom. Feeling very emotional today and just trying to keep a lid on it around the children. Going to plant some seeds today and go take the kids to look at the sheep in a nearby field.

ExpletiveDelighted · 22/03/2020 10:21

It is a beautiful day and we are one day closer to the end of all this. One day at a time.

Millie2013 · 22/03/2020 10:21

Thanks Brighton re asthma rescue packs, so many people are sharing ithe post on Facebook. I didn’t want to add to the pressure on my GP by contacting them

Siameasy · 22/03/2020 10:23

I don’t know if this will help everyone but I’m reading about other epidemics and finding it quite reassuring learning about the amazing scientific work done and how people got through it. It was polio that I was reading about.

Bouncingbomb · 22/03/2020 10:40

Lovely day here. I got toast and tea in bed from DD 13 who usually struggles to see noon on a Sunday.

Lots of great local initiatives here. Our local garden centre is doing home delivery, wholesalers are doing home fruit and veg deliveries, cafes delivering afternoon teas etc etc

AutumnRose1 · 22/03/2020 10:46

Lovely day here. In a good mood.

In case it makes anyone laugh, Just apologetically asked neighbour for help with something. His reply “ooh I love getting my toolbox out, even for two minutes“. I had to resist the urge to shout NOT A EUPHEMISM. 😂😂