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Adults who require a flu jab for any chronic illness to self-isolate for 12 weeks

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NewChapter11 · 16/03/2020 18:20

My ds 20 and I are both asthmatics who require an annual flu jab - do we fall into this category then? And what is even the point if dh is out working everyday in contact with the public.
None if this makes sense - what a bloody nightmare.

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FourTeaFallOut · 16/03/2020 22:18

I think they must include rescue courses of steroids butternutbrownie, just from the way they've worded it.

Butternutbrownie · 16/03/2020 22:23

Thanks @FourTeaFallOut

ffswhatnext · 16/03/2020 22:27

And if what newspapers are reporting as truth you need to start thinking about this now and making plans to suit your needs household etc.

From next week there is talk of fines or prison.

FourTeaFallOut · 16/03/2020 22:31

It's all very cryptic, this expected letter with as yet unknown instructions.

beingarayofsun · 16/03/2020 22:38

Well I have asthma, use steroid preventative Inhaler, but not been offered flu jab since being at my current doctors ( last 4 years) I only got it this time as I was pregnant.

All seems a bit ridiculous as you can't hide away forever, at some point you will be exposed. It's not about never getting it, it's about the NHS having the resources to treat you when you of you get it badly.

midgebabe · 16/03/2020 22:41

They are not banning you going out completely (yet)
They are treating you like adults. Because it's very hard to give information that covers every case
They are giving you time to sort stuff out, like pick up a laptop from work, or talking to the head about how many staff are classed and vulnerable and what that means in your particular school

MasakaBuzz · 16/03/2020 22:46

I have rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia and buggered joints. I get a flu jab because of it.

I live alone and have a dog.

My judgement is I will risk more damage to myself by completely isolating myself than by carrying on roughly as normal. I went to my orthopaedic Pilates session this morning and we did some work on breathing exercises.

I will continue to walk the dog, and shop as needed. All other activities have stopped. I live in rural Norfolk, I would be more circumspect if I lived in a busy town.

SauvignonBlanche · 16/03/2020 22:52

It’s only the high risk group such a immunosuppressed transplant patients that are going to be asked to self isolate for 12 weeks.

Pregnant women, people with asthma and over 70s are in the increased risk group

covetingthepreciousthings · 16/03/2020 22:54

*It’s only the high risk group such a immunosuppressed transplant patients that are going to be asked to self isolate for 12 weeks.

Pregnant women, people with asthma and over 70s are in the increased risk group*

This is where it is confusing though, as yes that is seemingly what it states on the gov website this evening but in the announcement they seemed to say everyone who is vulnerable (saying the ones who receive a flu jab), will be asked to isolate for 12 weeks.

This is why it's not clear, as they seemed to say one thing, and then have written a different thing.

FourTeaFallOut · 16/03/2020 22:56

Some asthmatics are in the high risk group, those who have needed oral steroids / hospitalisations.

TackyTriceratops · 16/03/2020 23:08

Yes it's very confusing.

TotesGodsWill · 16/03/2020 23:15

I have asthma, I could reduce my risk massively by wfh (live alone, would only need to go out to get repeat prescriptions and have occasional deliveries of essentials). Sadly my employer won’t allow it yet, although they expect me to do it if the office has to close.

itsmorethanthat · 16/03/2020 23:19

It’s clear that asthma patients are at huge risk. The scale of asthma levels can vary a lot. Some people have it very mildly and use blue inhaler once in. A blue moon.

Adults still needing oral steroid courses occasionally or hospitalisation are in the critical bracket who will be definitely needing to self isolate.

Others will be advised to take particular care to the advised measures.

I suffered badly with asthma as a child. Regularly had time off school with it, number of hospitalisations, worse than any other children I knew As an adult, it’s still fairly bad. Feel it every day though no hospitalisation or steroid courses, I always suffer badly with chest infections. It is clear as day that I would suffer badly if I get this virus. It is only my opinion but anyone with reasonably bad asthma should attempt to self isolate fully. I am self employed and will lose my livelihood but this is too important. Anyone who is in the position to do so should strongly consider taking these more extreme measures in my humble opinion....

MarshaBradyo · 16/03/2020 23:33

Totes how can they say no now govt advice is to wfh if you can, why do they say it isn’t possible?

ringletsandtwiglets · 16/03/2020 23:37

I suspect the people commenting about a lack of reading skills/ common sense are all in the fit and healthy bracket.

I’m a teacher, have heart disease and diabetes. Both are currently well-controlled by medication. I have no idea whether that means I should be fine, whether I’m still in the ‘most serious’ group, whether I should be telling work I can’t come in.

Watsername · 16/03/2020 23:42

I am very confused. I have asthma, have had a flu jab every year, and work in a school.

As I read it I am being called to socially distance myself (as opposed to self-isolate) - including not allowing visitors into my home - but I have to go into work and be snotted on by 500 children?!

What should I actually do? Go to work? Stay home? Keep my kids at home too?? When from?!

AhoyMrBeaver · 16/03/2020 23:51

I have congenital heart disease, but I'm not in the 'most serious' group because I don't have heart failure. I did get a bit panicked when I first read the BBC article because it seemed to splice different parts of the speech together, making it sound like everyone who gets a flu jab needs to be quarantined!

Either way, I can't avoid interaction with other people because it's what I'm paid to do five days a week. I've got to take the risk so I'll still have a job once normal service resumes.

TooMuchBloodyChoice · 16/03/2020 23:56

Half our household is in the severe risk category.

Luckily we’ve been self isolating for a few days already and have pulled the kids out of school.

I have wobbled over our decision but on the stark facts - we have no option. I am not looking forward to 12 weeks of isolation (well I will be leaving it’s the others that can’t).

If you are in the severe risk group take action now - don’t wait to be contacted by the NHS.

Nat6999 · 16/03/2020 23:58

A secondary school 3 miles from me has tonight closed until further notice, all the theatres in my city have also closed until further notice, I'm keeping ds home because we are both coughing, his HOY told him today that they aren't expecting school to be open beyond Friday this week.

AlunWynsKnee · 17/03/2020 00:06

It is very confusing. I had a letter yesterday from my specialist nurse confirming that my medication is not one that increases risk but there's my condition on the list. And high blood pressure for which I take a medication that does increase my risk apparently, isn't on the list but does feature in the top 3 complications for CV.

beingarayofsun · 17/03/2020 04:59

@itsmorethanthat I didn't use to take steroids for my asthma as I didn't like the idea and thought I didn't need it. I carried my blue inhaler everywhere and used it a lot. Switching into steroids and I now take just one puff once a day (from starting on 2 puffs twice daily. ) I never use my blue inhaler unless I get very unwell. Asthma can be managed and I forget I have it mostly.

icedancerlenny · 17/03/2020 05:07

MS is specifically mentioned. The issue is that viruses and infections can trigger relapses.

FourTeaFallOut · 17/03/2020 05:32

When the government refer to courses of steroids I'm certain that they mean oral steroids iceddancelenny, they don't just mean the usual preventer inhalers.

FourTeaFallOut · 17/03/2020 05:33

Oh sorry wrong name, I was replying to * beingarayofsun

Twasbambam · 17/03/2020 07:23

I have a white/pink steroid inhaler that had to be upped from the brown one a few months ago. And I have at least four lots of oral steroids a year.

My DM said I was overreacting and that it will be asthmatics who have to take the oral steroids all year round (we were socially distancing anyway, but I officially cancelled mothers day lunch last night).

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