So that's effectively everyone who works in a pub, club, theatre or restaurant out of work for at least 12 weeks?

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Is it? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Most of those won't be paid if they don't work and there won't be any customers.

Unless I missed it there was nothing said about them or what support there will be for them

I'm still commuting to work in London and then hotdesking. The pub is probably the least risky part of my day. I was supposed to be meeting my friend to celebrate my 40th tomorrow. Would still happily go if the pubs are staying open, but don't want to get abuse from people for going. But why say pubs aren't being forced to close if they don't want people to go to them? I feel like o should to help keep people in their jobs. Very confusing.

Dd (self employed) works predominantly in 2 industries.
She works for a lot of different agencies in both fields

All have cancelled work and told her that they haven’t anything on their books and won’t do till times have changed.

The other jobs she does are also not going to be there either

My boyfriend is a self employed chef, he currently has two jobs and is expecting to be laid off.

Luckily he has savings but they won't last for months and months. Very worrying for him.

Just had an email from Johnnie Boden to say Boden have closed their shops .

I can see this leading to a serious recession with many many closed businesses, unemployment etc. In some ways the economic effects are more terrifying than the virus itself.

restaurants can offer food deliveries (which will be needed more than ever) or collection of meals? Could pubs deliver/sell alcohol like this too?

Deliveries would need business insurance on vehicles, which would have to paid by each staff member who is driving their own car, so not really practical unless the company agrees to pay it (they wont, at least my pubco wont I'm sure of that). Licensing laws regarding the sale and supply of alcohol are very strict, so selling and delivering it from a pub is different from say an off license or supermarket.

However, we could offer a takeaway service after a couple of days getting everything in place. In all honesty though, the location would mean that I dont think we would get many takers. People visit because of the location and quality of the food, but they can get the same food in other places more central and why would they get a take away from a stunning location they cant look at except out of the car window?!

I think we'll see a relaxation in DBS requirements on a temporary basis. The announcement that CQC won't be inspecting care homes etc is a clear acceptance that standards will slip imo

It was cowardly. It looks like they're trying to avoid having to actually force the closure of businesses to avoid having to bail them out.

Combine that with the fact that the wonderful SSP reclaim is NOT POSSIBLE, and won't be for months, there's no way to claim the grants...their support for businesses is horseshit.

I was laid off today from my pub job. I was expecting it but not so soon.
I’m actually at a loss as to what to do. I’m a cleaner as well & have had cancellation upon cancellation. I’m very fearful for the next few days/weeks/months as I honestly can’t be more careful than I already am.
I can make next months rent but after that ...

Plus, even when the restaurants are free to open again, so many people will have suffered economically because of this that they will have less money to spend on restaurants, the cinema etc. The effects are going to be long-term and they're going to be grim.

My dad (in his late 50s) is a black cab driver in London.
He is fucked.
He's been working from 6am until midnight and not breaking even; I spoke to him earlier and he'd earned £9 in three hours.

Nearly 60, doing 18 hour days and not even earning minimum wage. It's an absolute disgrace. He's spending all of what he earns on keeping the cab on the road.

A job he's been doing for nearly 20 years.

PMs announcement has just made an almost empty London completely desolate. People in the same situation as my poor dad (no support offered unless a lockdown is imposed, or he gets COVID-19 in which case he'll get ESA) are all fucked and the blame lies solely at Boris' door. He won't impose a lockdown because he knows he'll have to pay out.

I don't know how my dad's going to get through it; even with me helping as much as I can.

Once again this government have let down the working g person.
Without enforced closure the insurance companies do not have to pay out. It is the business and the employee who will take the hit.
There will be business closures and job losses.
He really is a twat Boris is. He will avoid at all costs enforcing closure, saying it is the public’s decision blah blah blah. What it boils down to is profit.
Look at who has investments and shares within the insurance companies. Hmmm.....the tories that’s who. Of course he will do everything in his power to avoid enforced closure because that would mean the business is covered by insurance.

People don't just become carers for vulnerable people overnight, ffs.

Ever heard of enhanced DBS checks, references?

So the news.. is it true pregnant women have now been told to work from home / isolate for 12 weeks?

Also take note that the stock market has not suspended trading. Notice how cramped together the workers there are.
Interesting.
Much closer contact than advised and yet they are still trading.
Who stands to gain, would it be the wealthy by any chance?

Bozo managed to deflect questions on all of this rather well. He hasn't actually said what the plan is for people who's livelihood is destroyed by this.

I predict a rise in crime. If I can't feed my family, then I'll have to take drastic measures to ensure we don't starve.

emilybrontescorsett a lot of the insurers have wiggled out already, notifiable disease cover with specific lists which they won't expand for example. Now the government are wiggling

Agree DrCoconut - he waffled about raising the national living wage which is utterly irrelevant if people don't have jobs

My ds1 and his partner both work in big chain restaurants. Ds already has lost several hours. And is now on 7 days off. He’s terrified he won’t be able to pay his rent etc. Took him to do a big food shop today which I paid for but I think they’ll prob both lose their jobs. I am quietly very worried for them
Tbh

He never answers any questions.
He can’t even answer the question ‘How many children do you have?’
Ffs I do not believe one single word he says.
I don’t trust a word he speaks. I’m not prepared to listen to him.
If he recommended not buying x product that would be enough to push me to buy up as much x as I could afford.

People were warned about this government. Still, at least there’s still the massive economic upheaval of Brexit to look forward to.

@HonestlyWillTheRsinEverStop Bloody hell, that's really shit.

Financially this is a fucking disaster. 😞

How is UC supposed to work if you're needing to self-isolate?

Both my husband and I are self employed. I am a sole trader with a catering business. The way things stand, we are screwed financially. Events season is starting and we have had cancellations, already lost deposits and with no guarantee of any work, no idea what we will do.