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So that's effectively everyone who works in a pub, club, theatre or restaurant out of work for at least 12 weeks?

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DoubleAction · 16/03/2020 17:49

Is it? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Most of those won't be paid if they don't work and there won't be any customers.

Unless I missed it there was nothing said about them or what support there will be for them

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Goldilookingchains · 16/03/2020 19:08

I am now seriously concerned about my job, I work in the leisure industry and due to the bad weather we've recently had business has been terrible. I've only worked 6 days in the past 4 weeks as there isn't much point having staff when nobody is there, we reopened on Saturday and had 10 people come In, now with all of this staff are being told to take holiday if they have any.

If we have to close it will crush us financially, I only work pt so will have to start looking for a new job asap.

ValancyRedfern · 16/03/2020 19:08

The government is ensuring they can't claim on insurance by not mandating them to close. By just recommending their customers stay away they are effectively forcing them to go bust. It is reprehensible.

larrygrylls · 16/03/2020 19:10

VIrgin Atlantic have cancelled 80% of flights and put staff on 8 weeks UNPAID leave.

I have no idea how they will cope.

On the more positive side, everyone is overwhelmed and they can only make one decision at a time. I suspect in the next few days there will be more announcements about help for small businesses and emergency help for people not working due to Covid.

governments always find it easier to just pump money into banking system and hopes this helps everyone, Sadly, banks tend to stick to the safe bets (the large businesses) and not help the small ones.

Jay135 · 16/03/2020 19:10

You are misunderstanding the mindset of many people. Unless the pubs are shut then their will be people in them!

Jay135 · 16/03/2020 19:12

Larry - I think Virgin have said that they will be paying them because the 8 weeks unpaid will be spread over 6 months so they will get two thirds of their usual pay for 6 months. Not ideal but better than nothing. The key here though is the assumption that everything will be ok in 2 months when it clearly won’t.

MauriceandAlec · 16/03/2020 19:13

I think at this point it won't matter what people's skills are.

Well, obviously it does because you can't exactly be a delivery driver if you don't drive and many companies also require you to use your own car. Care work in homes usually also requires being able to drive/your own car. You also have to be DBS checked.

And we have no idea how long-term immunity is once you've had it or has had it if they haven't been tested.

And personally? I'd rather work on my back than do care work. Some people are not suited to it.

myjobismum · 16/03/2020 19:13

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MigginsMrs · 16/03/2020 19:16

My husband is a chef so we are fucked. The only very minor saving grace is that he has long service so his package if he was made redundant would tide us over for a good wee while. It might also be worth him seeing if he can pick up something extra.

YeOldeTrout · 16/03/2020 19:16

"If you can reheat a microwave meal and help someone get dressed you can do basic care visits leaving the people who are skilled carers free to do the hoisting/skilled care."

Won't get a DBS that fast. Sheesh!!

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/03/2020 19:16

I think it's a cowardly move to avoid having to support industries.

larrygrylls · 16/03/2020 19:17

Jay,

Oh I see, that does sound better (although more for the captains than the support staff, who may struggle to manage on 66% of their normal salary).

It would have been nice if Richard had dipped into his 4.1 billion (although probably diminished now) fortune to help his staff.

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2020 19:17

As a pub manager I cant tell you how worried I am.

We had 300 covers booked for mothers day, now at 230 and falling.........

Ricekrispie22 · 16/03/2020 19:23

Because they weren’t forced to close, they can’t claim for loss of earnings on insurance. So government isn’t out of pocket, they are.

mathanxiety · 16/03/2020 19:24

Bars and restaurants are all closed as of today in my US state. Restaurants can switch to deliveries and also curbside pickup, and drive through places are still in operation. You just can't go inside.

Bars will be badly hit though.

DropZoneOne · 16/03/2020 19:25

@jay135 it's not 8 weeks over 6 months, it's 8 weeks over 3 months. Plus asking for voluntary redundancies and saying even those measures may not be enough

GulliBelle · 16/03/2020 19:26

No point being able to drive if there are not enough delivery vans, you can't put the shopping for 20 people in the back of your Ford Focus.

Carers, mostly will need access to their own car, dbs clearance and training, and it won't happen overnight. Besides I can't remember Boris offering the money to pay wages. He was very explicit that people should be depending on friends and family.

RoseAndRose · 16/03/2020 19:26

"The Society of London Theatre and UK Theatre have announced the closure of all its venues with immediate effect, following the government's press conference this afternoon."

Alwaysreadyforbed · 16/03/2020 19:28

The government has said they will help the businesses affected. At least give him a chance to come good on it before lynching him.

DirtyBlonde · 16/03/2020 19:28

"Because they weren’t forced to close, they can’t claim for loss of earnings on insurance. So government isn’t out of pocket, they are"

If they couid claim on insurance, why would the Govt be out of pocket?

NoProblem123 · 16/03/2020 19:30

Can we support our local restaurants by ordering take out ?
Can waiting on staff become delivery drivers ?

Schoolchoicesucks · 16/03/2020 19:31

We had an email from our insurer today just highlighting that business interruption cover wouldn't kick in because "covid-19" wasn't on the list of notifiable diseases (because it didn't exist at the time cover was taken out and had we tried to add it once it became a risk it would have been excluded anyway). So not sure that the government forcing the closures would help?

RandomlyChosenName · 16/03/2020 19:31

I know this is awful for so many people and will still need staff to be laid off as it is less work, but restaurants can offer food deliveries (which will be needed more than ever) or collection of meals? Could pubs deliver/sell alcohol like this too?

emmetgirl · 16/03/2020 19:33

I own a cafe bar and have no idea what I'm supposed to do. If I close I won't have any customers. If I stay open I probably won't have any customers or at least very few (last week our takings were down 50%). If they tell us to close they might have to actually do something to help.

Thelnebriati · 16/03/2020 19:33

My neighbour has 2 kids and 3 jobs. One of those jobs no longer exists. Can she claim Universal Credit or not?

DropZoneOne · 16/03/2020 19:34

Sorry, the pay is spread over 6 months. The leave to be taken over 3 months.