So that's effectively everyone who works in a pub, club, theatre or restaurant out of work for at least 12 weeks?

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Is it? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Most of those won't be paid if they don't work and there won't be any customers.

Unless I missed it there was nothing said about them or what support there will be for them

The real financial disaster is the amount wiped off the World's stock markets - biggest falls in decades - the kind of thing that caused the 1920's recession. That means most people with occupational pensions, investments, will see a reduction. Almost certainly, there'll be a house price crash too as unemployment rises.

west end has shut down theatres until further niotice

The Virus pandemic is obviously much worse than most of us would have thought. The poster who said that the economic consequences will be worse than the health consequences is plainly right.
The UK (and the whole world) is in for a very tough time.
But those posters who seek to blame the Prime Minister and the present Government for not magically alleviating the problem are importing political prejudices into a much more serious issue.
Neither Boris Johnson, Jeremy Corbyn, Tony Blair, etc: etc: have a Leprechaun's Pot of Gold to deal with this.
Sensible suggestions only, from now on, please.

Sod it - we had no plans to go out but I've just booked for lunch at our favourite country pub. If they're open and we are well then we're going. If they are mandated to shut then we won't.

summercat - too right. My DS works in the original 'gig' economy: her's a freelance musician. His only income comes from playing live music. He plays regularly with at least 3 different bands plus depping in other bands as required. Every single one of his confirmed gigs has been cancelled.

He lives with his girlfriend, also a freelance musician. She had some part-time work in a small business run by a family member, but the business has already closed temporarily due to the CV. I'm both and for them.

We have lost most of our income, not only this but the knock on effect will see 3 years for recovery of all service sector industries.
If it's not on a screen and pre recorded, forget it.
We are hoping for a small miracle, but there will be people worse off than us.
We can wipe are arses though, so every cloud and that.

user: "The real financial disaster is the amount wiped off the World's stock markets - biggest falls in decades - the kind of thing that caused the 1920's recession. That means most people with occupational pensions, investments, will see a reduction. Almost certainly, there'll be a house price crash too as unemployment rises."

My MiL has just died. Her stocks and shares ISA has plummeted in value and he house price likewise no doubt.

DH and I were hoping to retire later this year. Our pension funds have taken a diver, so we may decide to continue working for a while. If a) we are allowed to, and b) we don't catch the CV.

(First world problems, I know, but this is just a very small and very personal example of the immediate impact. The consequences for all of us will be the above, but on a large scale.)

Yep by giving recommendations and guidelines the government can pass the buck and won't have to pay out. Similarly, insurance companies won't have to either.

OnlyaMan.

There's nothing political about saying the bumbling buffoon, should have put lives before money. I don't care if he's the monster raving loony party.
Although, I'm not sure he isn't.

Lots of shops are closing too or moving to reduced hours
I’m signed up for emails from them and have been receiving emails advising of closure for an initial 2 week period for most although they will still be available on line

Honestly
My office has increased the amount of cleaning. Bizarre (and a real blow for you) that you are getting cancellations. What are your clients thinking. Do you feel up to suggesting they really need you now, more than ever?

DH is a tradesman. Nothing affected as yet but i do fully expect people will not want outsiders in their homes in the near future.

A mate of his turned up to fix a broken boiler. He has hand sanitizer to use, but they turned him away. They would rather go without hot water and heating than let him in.

I don’t know what we’re going to do.

*during which we all have to make sacrifices'

@Poppydaisies some more than others!

Disrupting my Friday night date isn't quite the same as people losing their jobs, their businesses, possibly their homes, and an entire industry going under!

They are relaxing the benefit rules so anyone who is not working due to this doesn’t need to wait six weeks and mortgage companies will give three month mortgage holidays. For businesses who shut they are going to find a way they can re open when it’s over.

People were warned about this government

The millions of Tory voters who thought it would just be other people who would suffer, never imagined being at the sharp end of a Tory government.

The stripped-down NHS after 10 years of Tories and Boris Johnson throwing people under the bus with CV19.

The full glories of a Tory government. Look at what other countries are doing for their citizens. Then look at ours.

Both my children work in the theatre/ arts in London. Their futures are now, er, precarious.

@emilybrontescorsett I work on a bank trading floor. We had a confirmed case over the weekend so have all been sent to WFH with laptops or to one of 7 contingency sites. We are not usually allowed to execute trades away from the floor but this has obviously changed after this evening.

We contingency test every 6 months so hopefully should still be able to transact for clients.

But those posters who seek to blame the Prime Minister and the present Government for not magically alleviating the problem are importing political prejudices into a much more serious issue

Who are these posters? Not one single poster that I have read on these boards has alluded to anything even close to 'magically alleviating' anything.

It's fairly easy to blame the Tories for the shocking state of the NHS and how it's creaking so badly now. Other countries are in much better shape. It happened on their watch, and at their will.

I also completely understand the fury and despair at the entirely lacking and tone-deaf 'reassurance' that we've seen unfold so far.

For businesses who shut they are going to find a way they can re open when it’s over.

How is that going to work?

Nothing has been confirmed or enforced yet. Besides, from what I understand, these establishments can all still deliver. Several bars in London are operating a gin delivery service.

I do blame BJ for not doing enough.

I wonder if the government could offer payment to some of the people who have just lost jobs or had pay suspended to do some of the work that will urgently be needed to deliver to those in isolation, create database, do some remote health care work etc. They are going to need so much up and running quickly and some kind of re-employment or diverted employment must be needed. Especially as many who work in catering and entertainment are young and less likely to be at risk themselves.

It is madness, the economic impacts of this will kill far more people than the coronavirus.

I think we should just let the sick and elderly stay at home and all help them where we can. Everyone else should just get on with living otherwise our incomes, rights and freedoms will be gone before we know it.

Tesco are using this as an opportunity to gouge their suppliers and make even more profit.
They have doubled their cheese orders for DH’s workplace this week and next, it can’t be done, the lines already run 24/7 so when they fail, they get fined and still have to complete the order, albeit late.

Supermarkets are going to be the ones making the most out of this, Tesco most of all because of how they treat suppliers.
At least DH has a secure job though, More people will suffer financially than from this virus 😢

Totally agree @GenderApostate19

Crikey this is really scary stuff. We are farmers and we are really worried about staffing the farm if we all start getting sick. This thread has inspired me to get in touch with a couple of friends who are chefs. We're going to see if they would be keen to have a bit of training so they could back up if we're sick.