Lockdown won't work in U.K

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Because we are too rebellious. I cannot envisage people staying indoors for any length of time

@Bluepeace you tell them you are going to the supermarket and which one.

They wait for you to come back or circle you in their police car, then when you are walking back they check your bags and for a receipt.

Meanwhile the person on your road who decided to go on a walk/bike ride 10 minutes after you is fine.

@crustycrab fucking rude!!! It was reported online last night, get your facts straight before trying to belittle people, youve just made yourself look like a right dickhead

If large numbers of people start dying then I think a lockdown would work for a very limited time.

Exactly user. Take a look at skylinewebcams right now and check out the Trevi Fountain. The one person strolling around there is a Police Officer. Otherwise it is deserted.

I'm supportive of lockdown as a strategy but I think no time outside could be very detrimental to people's mental health. It would be better, although difficult to enforce, to let people go out but not close to others. So a bike ride would be ok, walking the dogs in woodland too, but not taking the kids to the swings with dozens of others.

Can't see it happening rurally.

They will look online and decide to nab a few rural dog walkers who went for a walk at night in twos or threes to make a public example of them.

I actually think we are pretty compliant as a country.
People are following government advice.
Thousands aren’t happy but will send kids into school tomorrow.
It’s interesting really.
We are like sheep which isn’t a critism by the way.
Maybe a psychologist will come alone who specialises in behaviour.

I agree OP. Ive already seen lots of threads with people saying they'll be too lonely isolating and "may as well be dead" if they cant go outside. With attitudes like that we have no chance of a successful lock down

Spaniards are no less rebellious, but if you impose a state of emergency and fine people thousands of pounds for breaking curfew you soon find they stay home. Add to that a higher death rate and massive social pressure not to be dickheads and risk others and people on the whole will do their bit.

www.itv.com/news/2020-03-15/ministers-plan-police-powers-to-arrest-coronavirus-patients-not-self-isolating/

This just says coronavirus patients... what? the police are going to arrest you, test you, wait for the test results, then jail you?
As it is they're not testing anyone. This only applies to the roughly 2k people who are currently diagnosed as having it.

And as for who'd break isolation, a 19yr old, going to a party?... I mean, if this was happening and you were 19... just think about it.

No @Mumto1girl3boys but you have. It wasn't "reported last night".

They are due to include this matter in any announcement on Tuesday. So you get your facts right

The spread of misinformation is dangerous

They will utilise the army as well as Police to enforce it. I actually think they should already be using them given behaviours in hospitals and supermarkets

I agree OP. Ive already seen lots of threads with people saying they'll be too lonely isolating and "may as well be dead" if they cant go outside. With attitudes like that we have no chance of a successful lock down If it comes to it and the government does what Italy and Spain has then people can whinge all they like but it's go for a walk and pay thousands of euros for it.
People keep going on about how it won't work, people will disobey. if it comes to it then it can be draconian enough to be effective.

Nothing is 100% There will be necessary workers out and about, there will be police, there will be idiots, some of them rebellious. That's taken as read.

It's not about 'it won't work'. It's about minimising, not obliterating risk. Most people will do their best to stick to the regulations. This will minimise the risk of the spread.

Posting 'it won't work here' will just fuel the minds of the rebels.

"Can't see it happening rurally.

They will look online and decide to nab a few rural dog walkers who went for a walk at night in twos or threes to make a public example of them."

I live in a rural setting - no webcams near me.
It will be easier for countryside residents to move about outside - if nothing else my backgarden is pretty secluded

If it comes to it and the government does what Italy and Spain has then people can whinge all they like but it's go for a walk and pay thousands of euros for it

You're probably right. I guess its easy to say "I wont do it" but when it actually comes to it, you'd be really really stupid not to. Its so incredibly selfish too. NONE of us want this, its not like the rest of us are enjoying this FFS. Its awful.

it’s to mitigate the affect of a pandemic

I don't think a virus can have an affect...

That’s exactly what an eminent epidemiologist said. A population that can’t be trusted to buy toilet paper responsibly certainly can’t be trusted to self isolate.

I really do despair... I was in a small local branch of a supermarket today and it was chaos. People literally fighting over loo roll and UHT milk, and the amount of people who tried to touch my tiny babys face was unreal!

And then all the 'i/my kids have a temp/cough but we don't have to set isolate right? The advice is soooo confusing' people

*@LittleLittleLittle

@Bluepeace you tell them you are going to the supermarket and which one.

They wait for you to come back or circle you in their police car, then when you are walking back they check your bags and for a receipt.

Meanwhile the person on your road who decided to go on a walk/bike ride 10 minutes after you is fine.*

That just seems so unsustainable, perhaps I'm just too sheltered I just can't imagine this happening and there being enough personnel to manage this!

This reads like a vindication of the Chinese style political system. They will trumpet about their system's superiority in future.

As police officers we are being warned that we may need to be put on 12 hour shifts to deal with curfews, the army will also be drafted in to help if the time comes when we are on lock down.
There are no powers at this time to arrest those in breach of curfews or those with the virus already (not sure where the previous poster got that one from) but some powers will be given by the government in the event of such circumstances.

I'm in the UK & can't get my head around the disconnect between what I'm reading on here and the real world where I am (major city) where people are out & about as normal. ?

@Mumto1girl3boys ha. I missed the reply

Thank you. Although some random stranger on the net being nasty to me makes no fucking difference to my life. He can get on with being nasty to others when he realises that I don't rise to that kind of shit. 😘

I wasn't aware we met . Can you ask Sam how it's going to be enforced I couldn't get any police to come out when my car got broken into a few months ago but somehow there are now police available to arrest people for I don't know walking the dog ?
I thought in Italy people are still allowed to go out and get food just restrictions so why and how arrest ? . Also if everywhere is on lockdown there will be no where to go . I'm sorry but I don't understand the purpose of arresting anyone ?

If the police can’t enforce it, the army will. And if the army can’t enforce it politely they will use force. It’s naive to think otherwise.