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Who is carrying on as normal/going out and about and sticking to plans?

360 replies

DennisReynoldsDuster · 15/03/2020 18:08

There seems to be a real divide.
Among my friends, ,many are staying put, cancelling plans and hunkering down for the next week and waiting to see how the land lies.
The other half are still of the 'pfff it's going to blow over' camp and are merrily talking about their trip to thailand and making plans for summer bbqs.

It's really unnerving. I flip between being utterly terrified to that reading about Nadine Dorries who seems to be recovering well, and hoping it's not going to be as bad as I expect.

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Iggly · 15/03/2020 22:39

Herd immunity may not happen naturally. That’s why we have vaccines ffs. And it takes a long time to develop a vaccine and many many people will die before we even get there.

We can reduce the number of deaths by taking steps to minimise widespread infection.

This is a virus that is more likely to mutate if we let it spread.

The worst bit for me is the lack of testing. The nhs isn’t testing unless people rock up into hospitals - and by then it’ll be too late.

What a negligent response from our government.

I’m not carrying on as normal. I’m washing hands like fuck and will wfh a lot more. Stay away from busy places and stay away from the elderly.

Imagine if you were one of those super spreaders who show no symptoms but infected scores? You’d never know as the government isn’t doing testing (testing of individuals with symptoms would make it easier to trace back and make links).

CurlyhairedAssassin · 15/03/2020 22:45

We were carrying on a small normal until yesterday. DH and I and 2 teenage sons went out for dinner on Friday nights. DS2 and DH went to the match on Wednesday night. And then yesterday DS2 started with a cough. It’s carried on today and this evening his temp has gone up to 37.8. So he won’t be going to school.

I’m sure it’ll just be a cold as he’s eaten al his roast dinner Grin but I do think that if he had stayed at home on those two occasions he probably wouldn’t be having to stay off school now as he could well have picked up whatever it is from the football or the restaurant.

So because of the restrictions we will be actively avoiding going anywhere now because of the risk of picking up any old virus, getting a temp/cough and then having to stay home because of it.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 15/03/2020 22:46

“A small normal”?!? AS normal.

Sunflower20 · 16/03/2020 01:46

Limiting social contact. Still going to work. To be honest I really enjoy being at home so it’s not been too bad.

namechangemania · 16/03/2020 07:39

waiting for my bus to work now and the roads are just as rammed as any other Monday.

hiddenmnetter · 16/03/2020 11:02

@JustInCaseCakeHappens Why are we not closing schools, non-essential shops and places now is just criminal. How many body bags do we need to see before we take it seriously? It could all be avoided. Now. Waiting to have thousand of dead is beyond comprehension.

No, it can't be avoided. If we lock down now, what happens? It comes again. And we lockdown, and it comes again. And again. At the end of the day this is coming. Lockdown now achieves nothing.

Arrowfanatic · 16/03/2020 12:54

Bit of both really. Kids are still attending sports clubs & school until told otherwise.

I'm wfh where I can, but the nature of my job sometimes requires multi agency meetings which are vital but they're not that frequent.

I'm sensibly anxious about it I think. Trying not to overreact or panic but I'll admit I'm worried about where this whole thing ends.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 16/03/2020 12:59

hiddenmnetter

why do you think it will come again? Confused

Its the attitude of doing nothing which brought it into the country like that already! We know, we do nothing, we don't listen to foreign advice. We are stupid.

hiddenmnetter · 16/03/2020 14:04

Why do I think it will come again? Because it has an R0 of 2.5 (i.e.: every infected person infects 2.5 others) and because everyone is naive to this virus, everyone is extremely sensitive to infection, and because we don't even know what the lifecycle of this virus is- some suggestion has been made that it has a 10 day infectious window, other suggestions of 28. We just don't know.

Let's say we lockdown for 28 days, and on the very last day of quarantine, one person gets infected. So in the whole of the UK there is one person with Corona virus. So out of a suspected 15,000 cases we have successfully eradicated 14,999 of them. That one person will infect 2.5 others. In two days there are 6.25 people infected. Then 15. Then 37. Then 90, then 220. From ONE person. In 5 days.

And are you sure that there will only be 1 person infected at the end? Imagine 10 people still infected at the end of quarantine. Raise that to 2,000 cases in 5 days. Within 2 weeks you'll be right back where we are now, and we will have gutted the economy for what? To what end? Keep in mind that most people who get corona don't even realise they're I'll while they're infectious.

What we are doing is actually sensible. If we encourage the vulnerable to self isolate as far as possible, and then people who become ill self isolate for a week, then the impact to the economy is massively reduced, the spread of the disease is not halted but is slowed down, and all the time the spread of the disease is building up immunity in the general population. Once 60%+ have had the virus (presuming that people do become immune post infection- like most virus') then the infection rate will reduce to less than 1. Which means any infection post that point won't lead to additional epidemics because it will have terminal growth.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 16/03/2020 14:18

What we are doing is criminal.

We have a NHS at breaking point already. Any added pressure will bring it to its knees. What it means in practice is that people will die. Instead of 20 articles showing you people dying not being able to reach hospitals or left alone in the halls, it will be be a lot more. And it will be everybody.

It's not my opinion, it's what experts are shouting across the world, it 's not the right way to handle this.

Conrad79 · 16/03/2020 14:50

Our local A&E is really quiet. Quietest it’s been for years!

The hospital is eerily quiet.

Calm before the storm Sad

ilovemyrednosedaymug · 16/03/2020 17:44

Carrying on with life as normal at the moment, whilst taking common sense precautions. I didn't go out on Saturday despite it being my birthday, as I didn't want to be in a room with over 100 people at a local event. I went to the opticians yesterday as both DD and myself need new glasses. Whether I will be able to collect those glasses in a couple of weeks is another story...... Using hand gel or washing hands where able to.

I am self employed, clients rotate weekly, monthly, quarterly, so am still going to all those as normal. Everyone I know is behaving as normal.

We do live in a very rural area though and it feels like we are in some sort of bubble. People are starting to take it seriously and set up help groups etc though.

There is not point whatsoever in closing the schools unless they lock down everything except groceries and chemists.

Listening to Jeremy Vine today, some of the over 70's were really defiant and no way were they going to stay home. My dad has got COPD and heart problems, so we are all aware they he could be badly affected should he catch it, so he isn't going out much.

youcantchoosethem · 16/03/2020 17:48

I am restricting and self isolating as much as possible due to underlying health issues (bronchial issues and two previous cardiac arrests) so do need to take it extremely seriously although I am otherwise very healthy. Thankfully I am able to work from home but my youngest is still having to go to school and my older son to his work so nagging them about washing hands etc as soon as they get in the door and going mad with antiseptic wipes daily on all touch surfaces and switches. I appreciate the thought process that we might as well get it so that it is over mentality, but that will put enormous pressure on our medical services in too short a space of time. I do think we do have a responsibility to try to flatten the curve as much as possible to try to help them cope - I love maths and found the random simulations on this absolutely fascinating. Really insightful.

www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Gmom · 16/03/2020 17:52

Read this Guardian article if you think “herd immunity” is a good idea. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidemiologist-britain-herd-immunity-coronavirus-covid-19

MollyMinniesMum · 16/03/2020 17:54

Nope, but I live in France lockdown imminent

August1980 · 16/03/2020 17:55

Hi I am in the let’s live as normally as I can. I didn’t cancel events, lunches etc but people have cancelled on me! Yes I am taking about the 6 Nations and the F1Smile happy to respect the laws and guidelines until I hear otherwise. Been told to work remotely which isn’t a pleasure - dog is annoyed her routine is disrupted and it’s longer hours thanks to all the crisis management I am having to do! I just feel for those who have no choice...

Diva66 · 16/03/2020 17:56

I’m carrying on as normal. For me this means staying at home, being super scrupulous about hygiene and only going out to hospital appointments. I have been doing this since January, I am a cancer patient and also recovering from Stevens-Johnson syndrome (very nasty, google it if you don’t mind graphic pictures!). I‘m on immunosuppressants and don’t yet know if any of my hospital appointments will be cancelled as non-urgent and I am worried about being in waiting rooms with a lot of other people. I’m just doing what I can to look after myself, tbh. If I was fit and well I’d probably be checking on others and maybe doing a bit of shopping for people.

speakout · 16/03/2020 17:59

August1980

But what about other vulnerabe people? Loved ones who may be at risk? Other people in our society who may be in grave danger.It's all very well saying "I'm all right", but it isn't just about us.

Personally I would probably be OK if infected, I am young enough, in good health and would probably recover.
It's not just about us- it's about others- is that of no concern to you?

I am cutting my contact and travel- not for my sake but for other people.

Greenpop21 · 16/03/2020 17:59

TA in primary so gave no choice! School can stay open but what if the staff have to self isolate???

M2B19 · 16/03/2020 17:59

Continuing as normal until told otherwise

Greenpop21 · 16/03/2020 18:00

Have

Greenpop21 · 16/03/2020 18:00

M2B we’ve just been told not to.

SupermarketFlowerss · 16/03/2020 18:04

Was carrying on as normal, after hearing today I will be going to work, children school and then just essential like supermarket for food

GreenPop · 16/03/2020 18:05

Carrying on as normal as much as possible.
I am, however, being cautious and not seeing friends who “just have colds”.
Like everyone else I'm also bring extra careful with hygiene as well as distancing myself a bit more when out (& not hugging friends / family, this makes me sad though).

GreenPop · 16/03/2020 18:05

And I do have underlying health issues!