Omg. The next step in the strategy. And if we all stick together it may work

[Bool]

Next step in UK strategy. Lock down all the over 70s (and other immunocompromised - kids / adults) for 4 months. Lock them down. Then make it illegal to close schools. That means we gain immunity to the virus as a population and keeps the beds open for the unusual cases that are not foreseen.

Obviously it is their choice to continue to be active in the community, but I think the older generation here are all aware of the policy of prioritising younger cases in Italy. And if they are not they need to be told!

And I think if the government has this as a policy then hopefully families would be more aware of the issue of children and grandparents mixing.

Immuno compromised adults are more difficult as some will have financial difficulties and children themselves, but if the majority of older retired people isolate then hopefully this would reduce the overall pressure on the nhs. And perhaps there are ways for the immuno compromised to be given a payment if they have a diagnosis letter from their gp.

So do they all just stay in isolation forever while the carriers carry on with life? The genie is out of the bottle.

I teach. I also live with and care for my elderly and not well parents. They are in their 80s. Are they part of Boris's expendable?

I don't see how it will work with those that need carers.

Will this include children/adults with asthma and other vulnerabilities? What if a child with asthma has parent/s who have to go out to work?

This should extend to dc and those livng with imune-compromised/vulnerable people.

I can see the logic of the suggestion. And actually think I agree with it.

Although practically it would be shit for us as my healthy DC would miss school for months as they would also need to be isolated to protect me. They would be gutted to miss their friends and all their activities until the end of the school year.

Are we also forgetting that the retirement age in the UK is 65!

I agree with this strategy. I'm in the vulnerable category and I'm happy to be locked down for 4 months. Anything to bring the risk down!

And I won't be the only one ... so who takes classes for absent teachers? Who
Cares for the elderly in care homes? Who visits those in need?

It is NOT the strong protecting the weak it is the absolute opposite!

It is the best we have. The elderly are the most at risk, we cannot stop the spread, there will be 100,000 odd cases in days, tests cannot capture this. Whatever else can we do here?

Bool do you have a link for the schools part?

Agree with vulnerable for four months

Hahaha. Love to see someone keep my granny indoors for 4 months. How the fuck are they going to police this?

Dalla, surely this is to enable the drugs to treat to be created, eg with flu those in vulnerable groups are vaccinated systematically, I get flu vaccine as I am asthmatic, possibly I am in the vulnerable group? I can work from home so am lucky in that respect. But if vulnerable groups can be distanced for enough time so that drugs can be produced then the working population can keep working and avoid mass financial issues.

Forgetting individual cases even, you are all overlooking the fact that the WHO have said that the herd immunity approach is not the best way to deal with this outbreak. They have already warned that it is possible to contract the virus in theory more than once (more than one strain), and given that they know nothing about the virus really, it's not advisable to just recklessly let it spread throughout a country.
Because that's what it is - reckless inaction from the government.

Humans be scared
Humans go maaaaad

Essentially..

This is misinformation- they're not banning school closures.

What is happening is that the government is going to prohibit schools closing based on unscientific decisions by individual headteachers.

Schools WILL CLOSE at some point- the question of when is a very difficult and complex one that has to be based on scientific and medical evidence.

Teachers are not medical professionals nor are they scientists, so it is vital that these key decisions are taken by the experts.

Oh do fuck off. You know nothing about her. No health conditions. Lives in a small town. Not everyone of a certain age will die you absolute bell end! It’s fucking hysterics like this that winds everyone up. Honest to Christ.

OP

My mum is 82 and already feels I’m the only reason she has to be alive after dad died

Does your policy mean I’m not allowed to see her?

Also, what about many people who’d rather live as normally as possible and die of this instead of dying of whatever else? Her older siblings have made it to 90, bedridden, incontinent. She’d much rather die of the virus.

I think she’d kill herself if she was forced to self isolate.

And I’m one of them.
Not denying it. 🤪

Some people on lock down vs most people on lock down and a lot more financially fucked and a much higher demand of the nhs

Do you have a link for all this @Bool ? I've just had a quick look on BBC news but there's nothing there, though I have seen mention of forced quarantine for the elderly on other threads.

@mineofuselessinformation sorry but you have completely misunderstood the strategy. The strategy is that we PROTECT the elderly. My dad included who has had a stroke. We get them to self isolate for 4 months. That will free up the beds and not overwhelm the NHS. Then 60% of the rest of us including kids catch this damn virus. The ones who get ill can get a bed because they are not taken up by the elderly who are safe.

Oldies! Patronising and infantilising people. Ageism in action.