Omg. The next step in the strategy. And if we all stick together it may work

[Bool]

Next step in UK strategy. Lock down all the over 70s (and other immunocompromised - kids / adults) for 4 months. Lock them down. Then make it illegal to close schools. That means we gain immunity to the virus as a population and keeps the beds open for the unusual cases that are not foreseen.

This is a double win for the government clear out all the expensive benefit claimants and rally the nation into bullshit nationalism whilst further irradiating our civil liberties. I bet they can’t believe their luck

@chrissiekeller61 the ‘expensive benefit claimants’ as you so rudely call them are likely to get this anyway. This strategy ensures there may be a ventilator free for them if they need it.

If you call that ‘bullshit nationalism’ then bugger off elsewhere and try your luck there.

Chrissie go infect some other website with your ridiculous theories. Reddit or something.

So naive, I wouldn’t go so far as to say this has been a plan. But it’s going to work out nicely for having a good clear out

Oh go on with you. The last thing we need is people stirring up shite.

We’ll see

It makes perfect sense to me and what I have been saying should happen for weeks.

I was shocked last Thursday by the amount of frail and elderly in the supermarket with 2 slices of ham, a couple of bananas and a cream bun in their trolleys. Happily gossiping with their mates in little huddles.

People have been clamouring for weeks for schools to close, everything to shut down, large events cancelled etc. Now the proposals are the most vulnerable of society go into lock down and it's just not possible.

It's a lot more possible than a full country lock down. Means our economy stands a small chance of limping on. And more importantly the NHS.

And to enforce it all Bojo has to do is ban anyone over 70 from public places like libraries and parks and any shops/supermarkets/pubs if they still open. And buses. And in my FILs case the bookies.

That man will be bloody fuming. Every day he gets on the 9.10am bus, goes and puts his bets on, has 2 pints in wetherspoons and then does his shopping before going home to watch the racing.

@Bool - what about the carers? Are they going to isolate with their patients? Parents with children with auto-immune problems? What about children with sick parents? This isn’t only about isolating the vulnerable, it’s about the people depending on them or people they depend on.

@Marilynmansonsothereye

If you feel petrified then that feeling is totally valid for you, what is irrational to some is not necessarily the same for you. Personally, I'm not petrified and my outlook would more than likely be bleak if I got it. I'd say my feelings are mild concern.

I'm immunosuppressed and if I get it, I'm in the shit I would say. A simple cold sore saw a Doctor telling me it was dangerous and putting me on strong antivirals for two weeks.

I guess because of my underlying illness I know that my life has been shortened by a decade or more, so I'm pretty resigned to dying before my time should be up.

It’s so odd that people are wanting total lockdown for everyone and the government isn’t doing enough - but when the proposal is for a partial lockdown of the most vulnerable in society then there are cries of ‘how will we make that work’. I don’t get it.

Me neither.

@eeriesilence sorry I don’t know all the answers. We need to work this through. Maybe yes they need to as well.

I wonder if a specific ethnic minority was high risk for deaths from the virus, whether the government would tell that group to isolate for 4 months in the same way?

I think not. This ageism and infantilism makes me feel uncomfortable, even though the science is reasonable.

Which expensive benefit claimants, I though all the old folk were the home owners sitting in large piles and getting pensions, well they are on most threads on here

Well we have proved we cannot "all stick together"
Cannot even buy irresponsibly, people arguing over a pizza in the supermarket and happy to buy selfishly without a thought for anybody else.
So "all stick together" ? No chance. It is a case of "I'm allright Jack"

The state pension is a benefit, and the one that costs the country the most. So technically, anyone who gets the state pension is a benefit claimant.

Sorry, mean cannot buy responsibly.

Yes, I don't understand why this proposal is so much more harmful for the vulnerable than a full lockdown would be. Obviously they'd be included in that too and there would likely be even less support for them.

Obviously it's not going to be "perfect" isolation for those who need help with daily living but it wouldn't be under a full lockdown either (I hope) and this gives us the best chance of being able to keep them safe, surely, by vastly reducing contact whilst still ensuring they have what they need.

We are pensioners and therefore 'benefit claimants'. It is a benefit we have paid for through 50 years of NI and taxation.

If it doesn’t happen there will be fewer benefit claimants as you put it so it’s not that.

@Buddywoo I don’t wish death on any of you I really don’t whether you paid in or not, I don’t care. I just feel the fact that a million on the elderly are being thrown under a bus is rather convenient

I'm not sure how making school closures illegal would help?

The powers are for two years (and can be extended) it means no teachers can go on strike.

I've said before I think this government will bring back work houses, this is the start isn't it?

but when the proposal is for a partial lockdown of the most vulnerable in society then there are cries of ‘how will we make that work’. I don’t get it.

A lockdown is for the good of everyone, just isolating the most vulnerable isn't, and it isn't even good for those of us in vulnerable groups.

Again, there will be more under the bus if they are not kept apart.

We are pensioners and therefore 'benefit claimants'. It is a benefit we have paid for through 50 years of NI and taxation.
It’s not a judgement call, it’s a fact.

Again, there will be more under the bus if they are not kept apart.

This, sadly. And doing a full lockdown is surely worse for the vulnerable as those who would be able to support them through lockdown will be on lockdown themselves.