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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 15

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usernameishistory · 06/03/2020 20:38

Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

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RedToothBrush · 07/03/2020 16:33

Why should people who always bulk buy when things are on offer feel bad for being well stocked now? I'm not bulk buying at the moment but it makes financial sense to me to buy the things we use a lot when they're cheapest.

This. I will only buy big packets on offer at a good price, rather than buying a small amount as and when I need it. I buy a lot by habit usually cos otherwise I end up forgetting until I'm down to the final roll and have to dash out for some. Its something I like to put in the trolley as little as possible.

Anyway my buying habits aside I have to say all the talk of a bog roll shortage is somewhat overblown.

I've been out trying to track down something for my house without much luck, so have trekked all over the place.

There was toilet roll everywhere. Not so much in the big supermarkets but its not exactly hard to find.

And on the subject of supermarkets, some of them have deliberately tried to stoke up sales. The branch of Tesco I went into earlier this week had buy 2 for £2 on antibacterial wipes and had them on an end of aisle, together with tissues and other flu related products. The psychology of end of aisle is to caught the eye of shoppers and make them buy additional impulse buys. Its not a coincidence they chose antibacterial wipes because the chain has very sophisticated spotting of trends - they check the news and weather to make sure they have barbecue stuff in at the right time and snow stuff in at the right time. So Tesco have deliberately sought to exploit anxiety over this.

A friend was telling me how the supermarket he went in yesterday had put so much toilet roll in the aisle that it took up the shelves and half the aisle. So anyone looking at that and hearing talk of shortages (toilet roll shortage has been trending on twitter earlier this week as a joke BEFORE there was a run on it anywhere, which made me hmmm) Psychologically seeing extra large displays of bog roll and talk of shortages is liable to spark a run. The thing is the supermarkets have had not just stock but extra stock in, with the point made that they physically couldn't get stock back out on the shelves quickly enough. Not that they lacked stock.

It's different with hand sanitisers as supermarkets haven't had stock.

But toilet rolls? I think there was some rather cynical marketing going on to get people to stores and buying more than they usually would. Think manufactured bog roll panic as a 'loss leader' to suck people into stores.

middleager · 07/03/2020 16:36

Ah I see the student is not in halls fortunately and did not attend lectures during the period of concern.
Hopefully this can minimise the risk.
The few students they had contact with have been notified.
It was me who bolted, hoping this can be contained and not campus wide.

ofwarren · 07/03/2020 16:37
  • When greeting people, best to avoid elbow bumps because they put you within 1 meter of the other person. I like to put my hand on my heart when I greet people these days.
Tedros from the WHO

I was always a bit sceptical about this elbow bump thing. Best not to touch people at all.

middleager · 07/03/2020 16:38

Elbow bumps after sneezing into the crook of one's elbow?
Eww no thanks.

NeckPainChairSearch · 07/03/2020 16:40

Panic buying may well deprive the vulnerable - who are often the least able to think or plan so far ahead - of basic necessities and of OTC medicines that would help them

Agree. We're lucky enough to have money and space. I've started a small cupboard of provisions, but I bought a few extras before the shelves cleared so we can donate them.

The thought that people - especially those with children - panic and worry about going without during the next period of time with coronavirus, while others gloat about their 99999,000000 loo rolls and fourteen cases of hand gel etc is a bit uncomfortable.

The profiteers and those posting their 'haul' of every bloody bottle of hand sanitizer in Superdrug on FB really make me quite angry.

We're tripling up donations to the food banks and making up boxes of loo roll, paracetamol, pasta, beans, soap etc for anyone who needs them. We'll probably end up taking them to a local distribution network.

ofwarren · 07/03/2020 16:41

Vietnam's coronavirus cases rise to 20: health ministry t.co/7JR5q2ggkK t.co/pDAD4a3ZWI

ofwarren · 07/03/2020 16:42

UPDATE: Germany has reported 156 new cases of coronavirus so far today, raising the total to 795 t.co/eUoE2b20hL

ShanghaiDiva · 07/03/2020 16:42

@Langbannedforsafeguardingkids
Scientific evidence of what I have been saying. Perhaps my status from ‘random internet user whose comments should be dismissed and ignored as she is a pro China puppet’ will be amended to ‘random internet user who may have something useful to offer’!
Grin

BIWI · 07/03/2020 16:43

@RedToothBrush I'm in SW London. Went shopping today - large Sainsbury's where I normally shop had no toilet roll whatsoever. Went to nearest Tesco, again a large shop (a Tesco Extra). Again, absolutely no toilet roll. Ended up going to a M&S within a BP petrol station - they had 3 packs of toilet roll - person ahead of me took 2 of them so I got the last one!

YouAreTheEggManIAmTheWalrus · 07/03/2020 16:51

Sorry if already posted. For anyone who thinks we aren’t following the same trajectory as any other country, we are. Someone on reddit made this graph, based on initial outbreak aligned with 51 cases. The UK is the dark blue line behind the other European ones.

worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 15
usernotfound0000 · 07/03/2020 16:52

Our local Asda this morning was all out of soap, toilet roll and the medicine ailse was sparse too, they had a few packs of cheap paracetamol left and some of the branded nurofen but not much else. Everything else was well stocked.

Mydogatemypurse · 07/03/2020 16:57

Been to asda this morning. Tonnes of ibuprofen, paracetamol, toilet roll, soap, anti bacterial hand wash and cleaning products. Only thing they didnt have is hand gel.
I went in for chocolate, wine and toothpaste. There was loads of that too.

happymumof22019 · 07/03/2020 16:59

I am just out of our local Tesco. Couldn’t do my normal weekly shop fully as they are limiting each customer to 5 tins of veg. I bought 4 tins of beans (on offer) and 2 tins of sweetcorn...had to put 1 back. Also the woman on till said there’s a sugar shortage. It feel really unnerving.

ofwarren · 07/03/2020 16:59

: Maldives report first 2 cases of coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

Ciwirocks · 07/03/2020 16:59

What are Japan and Singapore doing differently then? Or is it climate related?

Jumpingintotheabyss · 07/03/2020 17:02

Mum, that Liz sprecht twitter thread was v interesting.

It's what I've been trying to articulate re seeing a very small vignette of a busy ward, all patients needing the same thing and becsuse they need that same thing, there's a shortage.

GPwife2411 · 07/03/2020 17:05

I'd honestly feel better if our line was tracking closer to South Korea's - not because I think we need to have more cases, but because S Korea have done an amazing job picking up the majority of cases. As the examples of people presenting v v ill at ICU before receiving a diagnosis just before death show, we are NOT currently picking up the majority of cases. And our current testing algorithms seem to mean that we will not pick up lots of the community transmission, so the odds of detection and therefore containment do seem to be reduced in our case ...

ShanghaiDiva · 07/03/2020 17:05

Singapore stopped flights from China at end of January which probably helped and they have an isolation policy in operation with paid leave. Ime the country is very clean so they are building on good standards of hygiene. It’s also very small - size and population wise- so tracking contacts must be easier.

Orangeblossom78 · 07/03/2020 17:05

Regional breakdown now updated for UK here www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

38 in London now, quite a jump

WiltedDaffs · 07/03/2020 17:05

Sunshinesky1981 You’d need to mix 22ml of surgical spirit with 78ml of hand sanitiser to make it 70%

QueenofmyPrinces · 07/03/2020 17:05

What are Japan and Singapore doing differently then? Or is it climate related?

Also intrigued!

Their lines on the graph compared to every other country’s lines are quite astounding really.

HeyPizza · 07/03/2020 17:06

Funny all the panic about loo roll running out. In some countries, they don't use toilet paper, just rinse after the 'business', with water (which is cleaner and more hygienic apparently, in any case).

I just can't work out how they dry their nether regions afterwards ...

Mydogatemypurse · 07/03/2020 17:06

Are people stopping going out? I've been to the pub yesterday and to a supermarket today. Now I feel careless. I also got a takeaway in the week then worried that might have been stupid.
I thought you only had to stay in if you had symptoms

LarkDescending · 07/03/2020 17:07

Is it climate related I wonder that about Singapore - but not sure about Japan. Tokyo is cooler than much of Spain at this time of year, and Spain is not having a great time (up 99 cases to 500 today, of which lots in Madrid).

HeyPizza · 07/03/2020 17:08

Btw, completely get it - I wouldn't want to run out Grin

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