Italy in April. Would you?

[DrMadelineMaxwell]

Now the whole country is designated as a place that requires self isolation if you visit and later feel unwell with symptoms that may be the Covid 19.
How likely is it that the advice will change to Do Not Go.

I'd check with your employer first. Someone at my work is going to a country with high coronavirus - she has checked with HR and they have made arrangements for her to work from home on return for 2 weeks and are clear they are going to pay her as it was booked in advance.

They have also been very clear to everyone else that they won't be as sympathetic to people booking new holidays that end up making them unavailable to work - our jobs can't really be done from home - or those who don't check in advance of booked trips.

We are also considering UK but atm not even sure it's safe to book here as situation has changed quite rapidly in some countries with everything being closed and lockdowns etc as well as the illness so we are watching and waiting for that. Things here we'ld consider are staying at home and David Lloyd for summer then going another time or going to somewhere with alpacas as kids love them. CNN was saying it'll be the summer of the staycation! Hoping things improve but they talk of 18 months for a vaccine possibly accelerated to a year so doesn't look hopeful for 2020 atm.

Can't choose to work from home as I'm a teacher.

I'm in the 'sit tight and wait' camp at the moment as things are changing daily here toomand the risk staying here may yet be as great by then. Or the advice will change and i wont have lost £2.5k if I can get it back from my insurance. A other member of staff is also going to a different place but South so I will show her that map too.

No I wouldnt. I'm very laid back about this whole thing but I'd be worried about being forced to quarantine and isolate. Also I'd be worried about not getting a flight back. I know someone stuck in Iran now and will be for the next 2 months. That concerns me more than the likelihood of catching it

@Wigeon I know, I was hoping they would. They have flights from edinburgh every day, sometimes twice a day and they have cancelled a lot of them. Must make economic sense for them as well.

The map is good, only thing to be careful of is a lot of cases are allocated to regions but not to specific locations - Sorrento the wider region has 77 cases, 17 are allocated to Naples, 60 are unallocated.

We are booked to go to Rome in May.

To be honest, the way the virus is spreading here over the last few days, it's likely the Uk will have significant cases by the Easter hols.

So it may be that flights will be cancelled regardless.

As it stands, unless told not to, I plan to go. I doubt travel to Italy will make much difference in 6 weeks time. The UK will be heavily infected.

That’s a really good point about sitting tight and seeing if your flight gets cancelled, rather than cancelling (or re-booking) now and incurring costs. That’s rubbish for those who stand to lose thousands though 🙁.

Guardian is reporting that the Italian govt is considering putting the whole of Lombardy in lockdown, at which point the Foreign Office advice would presumably change to “don’t travel unless essential”, and insurers would pay out, making our decisions about going/not going a whole lot easier!

(Or at least, the Foreign Office would advise against travel to Lombardy I mean. I wonder if Italy might add Veneto to their “red zones” if they do add Lombardy...)

Out in flex tickets with air france are now flex. They're worried about bookings so they're allowing to change all tickets even the cheap ones.

We're going to Bologna April 3rd to celebrate a birthday at a Spa hotel. Right this minute, we're all still going and unless the Government tells me we can't travel then we will!

I don't think Veneto is anywhere close to being locked down. We have 1/5 of the cases that Lombardy has.

Also, a few days ago when there were 360 cases, 74 were in one tiny village that has been isolated for a fortnight.

I'm thinking of setting up a business reselling all the non-refundable hotel stays to local families! 😆

Stay for 4 in Rome next weekend anyone?

My two children are due to travel to northern Italy Folgarida for a school ski trip in Easter it's a case of wait and see but dread the thought of them being quarantined over there without family . What would you do?

Colly
That's where my son went at half term and half the group got Norovirus.
Some self isolated after return and were tested for CV.

My son returned on the day they announced lockdown and I was worried he might be stranded as we didnt have full details. It was a horrible feeling he might be stranded in a different country, so I would say a big no.

I cannot believe people are still selfishly thinking of going on holiday - because they are not in the high risk group. What about people they might meet and infect - definitely will meet and infect if they catch this? Do these people not care if they bring about the death of another human being just because they 'had to go on holiday'. As far as we knew northern Italy was safe, but it wasn't was it? So nowhere else is safe either. Think of the long term sick and the elderly. DO NOT GO ON HOLIDAY until this is over. If it ever is.

We are going to Rome for Easter. Only thing we are changing is that we won't visit PIL afterwards.

Of course it's not beyond their remit- you deliberately undertook a trip that you knew would make you unavailable for work. They can't tell you that you can't go but they can give you consequences for the actions that you take that affect them directly.

Going to Italy per se doesn’t make you unavailable for work. Going to regions in the lock down area does but otherwise the advice for Italy is only to self isolate if you have symptoms.

Your work can ask you where you’re going and depending on what you do for a job might be justified in being cautious about attendance (eg if you worked in a care home) but it’s going to depend on people being honest, they might be inclined to lie about where they’re going if measures are too draconian.

OP I would be disinclined to go but unless travel advice changed I suppose people might not want to lose thousands of pounds. I know there are plenty of people on mumsnet with money to burn but I can see otherwise that people might just take the risk they won’t get it or if they do it’ll be not that bad

The stats coming out of Italy today are concerning - over 1000 new cases within 24 hours. I wouldn’t risk it.

@user1471448556 have you got a link for that?

My kids come back from italy tonight and I am so worried. Trying to get some information on actual figures before I decide what I am doing with them.

All the italian data is on here broken down by region.

statistichecoronavirus.it/coronavirus-italia/

There been 16 new cases where they are.

I know the advice is only isolate if they have symptoms for that area. But what if by next week that area is in lock down.

Like it happened in the north.

I am not afraid of the virus as such. But no idea what to do with the kids.

All of lombardy is on lockdown as of last night. No go area.
To bd avoided. Cancel all your trips now!!!

No definitely not. I am already here but have told my relatives not to visit.

This is going to have a massive impact on the hotel and restaurant trade isn’t it? It may ruin many smaller businesses.
Also the airline industry will be very hard hit. I think recycled air on a plane is probably one of the biggest risks in spreading infection.

Does anyone know whether the port of Venice is now included in the lockdown for a month