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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 14

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usernameishistory · 06/03/2020 01:03

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

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stoptherideiwanttogetoff · 06/03/2020 09:57

@mamasiz I'd be contesting that with HR. You'd most definitely fall into the at risk category in my opinion!

WokClock · 06/03/2020 09:58

Our work is allowing people to work from home and drawing up a Login rota to minimise the network impact. They are also identifying the critical workers who will get priority. So for example the staff who just use the network for non critical emails will have a slot to logon to the network and synchronise their mailbox.

It’s all about changing behaviours

peridito · 06/03/2020 09:59

@Reastie I believe the thinking re Singapore is that the high humidty somewhat negates the heat element in deterring the virus .

peridito · 06/03/2020 10:00

@Cheeseismylife could you re post the link about cleaning surfaces and where the virus hangs out ?

Reastie · 06/03/2020 10:01

Ahh thank you peridito

DressingGownofDoom · 06/03/2020 10:01

60 staff at Cork University Hospital have been told to self isolate because of a case of community transmission. How would our hospitals in the UK cope 60 staff down?!

furrytoebean · 06/03/2020 10:02

PP earlier on this thread mentioned refusing work tasks related to coronavirus cases because it would cause anxiety.

So internet rumour.

Newjez · 06/03/2020 10:03

@Horehound

It's probably just flu. I wouldn't worry about it.

Zarahaider88 · 06/03/2020 10:04

I live 5 minutes from Gately where the confirmed case at Wythenshawe hospital is from. It’s been said the patient attended the Gp surgery. Am I being crazy for wanting to take my 4 year old out of nursery? I’m currently pregnant and have asthma. Only person leaving the house would be my DH. DH doesn’t share my concerns and is still carrying on as normal with extra hand washing he still goes to gym and football. He is an optom so in close contact with people when testing.

Ciwirocks · 06/03/2020 10:05

I took the person who refused to work to be in an admin role rather than direct care as there was talk about figures etc.

Skyejuly · 06/03/2020 10:07

I live in rural suffolk. Had GP blood test this AM and dentist. Signs up at both but I wasn't asked at all. No hand gel at either but soap in toilets. No one asked me any questions. No one seemed to be overly bothered.

So I want to know where these cases are now? People here will need to be more careful!

ProfessorHasturLaVista · 06/03/2020 10:08

That poster isn’t a HCP refusing to do their usual role. They were anxious about extra training and hours, potentially exposing them to greater contact risk with the virus. They were anxious about that and that is perfectly fine and understandable.
I’m happy to cover at work for staff absence etc but not if the arrangement of classes means prolonged and unusual close contact between large numbers of children. That’s the same sort of thing, really.

Skyejuly · 06/03/2020 10:08

Hubby works from home but one child doing gcses so seems pointless keeping the others off..

solomonsfish85 · 06/03/2020 10:08

@dressinggownofdoom I live in cork and the hospital on a normal day cant cope with what they have already! People are on trolleys all the time because of no beds in wards, it's going to have a big impact

bananabrain2 · 06/03/2020 10:09

I think it's such a tragedy that we missed the opportunity to contain this. It wouldn't have been that hard. I blame the lax government and the "it's only flu" brigade. If we had banned travel over half term and Easter, encouraged wfh from the start and been a bit more on the ball with travellers returning, we could have kept the number below a hundred until the summer. By luck we are behind other European countries, but that just means we get to see what will happen to us.

We don't live in an authoritarian country. Can you imagine if the Government had said no travel, airports, train stations, roads are closed, everyone has to stay at home until further notice. How do you police that? Put armed guards on every corner? What's the effect on the economy? How many businesses just close as they go bankrupt. Unemployment would rocket. Look at the impact of FlyBe going under - 2,000 employees plus supply chains and impact on local economies. Listen to the scientists.... and look at the number of cases in other European countries - we have fewer ...so far.

www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200305-sitrep-45-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=ed2ba78b_2

Inevitably this will increase, especially as the number of people tested increases. When you test temperature of travellers as they arrive, you will get loads of false positives - that would overwhelm the healthcare services as many people think they have it, but haven't.

We are all intelligent enough to take action ourselves. When I flew from China in January I wiped the tray table, arms rests and touch screen with wipes. Nobody told me to, but it was a sensible precaution given the superficial cleaning that happens on aircraft.
We can advise our children to wash hands etc. We are all capable of independent thought and action.

Agree with this!

LarkDescending · 06/03/2020 10:11

Someone upthread asked why the Diamond Princess case numbers have been reduced (from 706 to 696). This was the result of an adjustment made yesterday after some double-counting was identified.

ScatteredMama82 · 06/03/2020 10:16

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Looking at the Johns Hopkins data, and I watched it yesterday too. I think that the global number will reach 100,000 today. I know some people object to guessing the numbers, but for some reason that seems significant in my head. I'm trying NOT to constantly refresh feeds today. What will be will be.

NormaLouiseBates · 06/03/2020 10:16

Ocado have these in stock at the moment if anyone is interested:

www.ocado.com/products/sani-hands-anti-bacterial-hand-wipes-42718011

Not sure how effective they are but probably better than nothing if you're out and about and can't get to a sink? They're limiting them to 2 per order.

Skyejuly · 06/03/2020 10:19

I am interested in numbers too.
I really hope we find out locations soon.

Cheeseismylife · 06/03/2020 10:19

I'm going out to do my normal weekly shop shortly. I wonder if I will actually be able to buy anything...
I haven't heard anything about panic buying here but I've not been to the shops since last Saturday so it might all have been ransacked since then!

Babyfairy0923 · 06/03/2020 10:20

What time are the locations being released?

ProfessorHasturLaVista · 06/03/2020 10:22

Depends where you are, I suppose, Cheeseismylife but Sainsbury’s was fine this morning. No Dettol wipes left, low on toilet paper (but 16 rolls of Andrex is on offer atm) but plenty of other stock. Hand wash low but lots of soap. I think people are focussing on handwash because of the ‘antibacterial’ thing, which is wrong, but even if all liquid soap was gone bar soap still available.

PotholeParadise · 06/03/2020 10:24

So read the study on virus survival. I was on biologic drugs administered by automatic injection pen (I've come off recently). About a month ago one of the pens failed so I reported it as per the process. I got several calls about it and expected it to be collected, but then I had an email from DHL advising a delivery from Samsung Bioepis in South Korea. It's a kit to send the pen back to them. It only spent less than 2 days in transit and contains plastic container, plastic bags, paperwork etc. Direct from the hot zone to an immunodeficient patient. I'm not happy, but am I being ridiculous?

Are you sure it actually came directly from South Korea, in less than two days? I'd be impressed if I got an international parcel that quickly from France! It doesn't just have to get on the plane, it has to go from place posted to local courier depot, to airport, to UK airport, to collection centre by airport, sorted for destination, sent over roads overnight to your local DHL centre and finally sent out with a local driver. And it all costs loads.

Normally international companies work around this by having local branches in other countries that are stocked with things like jiffy bags, and someone in customer service in the UK branch of Samsung Bio would have sent out the packaging for returns.

NcFortuna · 06/03/2020 10:24

A Coronation Street cast member is self-isolating as a precaution over coronavirus. A spokeswoman said

From the Guardian live feed.

Perhaps now the denialers will finally take note. 😂

woodencoffeetable · 06/03/2020 10:24

www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/epsco/2020/03/06/

european heads of medicines agencies meet now on covid-19
press conference from 13:30 cet livestream in above link.