worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 14

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

i watched the Dr Campbell video and sadly my age group 50 - 59 falls into the older category

#FRANCE — 613 confirmed cases of #coronavirus

Oh bloody hell I am in that category too. My dd is only 12. I really very much do not want to die of this thing.

ofwarren considers!???? Any elderly or infirm people setting foot on a cruise ship right now are literally tempting fate here.

They should outright say If you go on a cruise now you are risking your life, your safety cannot be guaranteed and you may possibly face quarantine for an unspecified time frame.

The hesitation is going to turn out to be a massive regret.

#RUSSIA- 5 cases of #coronavirus. All from #Italy.

FWIW I don’t think of being 50 plus or indeed 60 plus is so risky if the person’s fit and healthy. These are just numbers. Statistics. All of us just have to reduce our risks as far as possible and get on with things as best we can. Though obviously we have less control if other people don’t reduce their risks too. All we can do is prepare as best we can.

Before you all jump in that I’m too optimistic and what do I know? My own story - I am 59 next month, immunocompromised ( I have several autoimmune problems), fat, asthmatic. Luckily the asthma is well controlled but I’ve had a couple of bouts of pneumonia in the past. DH is 72, reasonably fit but not as vigorous as he wS a couple of years ago. We are knackered - carers for 2 developmentally disabled adult DC. We have 2 other adult DC, one of whom is immunocompromised (a fairly recently AI condition that’s still not fully controlled) and the other also needs a fair amount of support. And to top it all off, we live in the same town as the first person to be diagnosed with CV in Scotland. Fortunately nobody else has been diagnosed so far here - and we’ve had no contact with the person concerned. I am certainly unsettled by the whole situation but I’m just trying to prepare as much as we can.

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Brutal response from Lufthansa to global slump in air passenger numbers - scrapping up to half of flights and looking at temporarily decommissioning entire fleet of A380 superjumbos - via ⁦*@Theothebald*⁩

newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/english/newsroom/news-releases/lufthansa-group-plans-to-reduce-flight-programme-by-up-to-50-per-cent/s/7cb35de9-6b78-4d48-92c6-51f9cb53a1e2

Has anyone else seen this

Sir Patrick, Chief Scientific Adviser to the Government, told Sky News:

"We've got a reasonable worst-case scenario... that involves 80 per cent of the population and we think the mortality rate is one per cent or lower. I expect it to be less than that.

"It takes about 12 weeks to reach the peak then maybe about 12 weeks to go away again.

"You expect about 90 per cent of cases in the nine weeks in the middle of that and 50 per cent of cases in the three weeks of the middle of that."

So if they're assuming the established community transmission is starting now - we're looking at peaking at around beginning of June, with 95% of infections between end of May to beginning of July?

DH and I planning to pull DS out of school at Easter and wait for the peak to pass. By then it will be heading towards summer holidays anyway.

One of world's biggest music festivals SXSW cancelled over coronavirus fears
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Due to mainly Chinese students deferring their places

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/rugby-union/51777621?__twitter_impression=true
Women's Six Nations: Scotland v France postponed after home player tests positive for coronavirus

The Olympics is getting postponed. Italian cyclists have already tested positive at an event in UAE. Going to be lots more athletes before the games.

Is Boris not concerned for himself? He's over 50. I know he'd get treatment regardless of bed capacity but does he realise or care his policy puts him at risk too?

Visit your elderly relatives now.

And free grocery deliveries to those self isolating.

I'm so worried for FIL. He's 85 and we all love him so much.

Also plans to ban oaps from football grounds and sports crowds to be limited to 500 max on the back pages.

I can’t help thinking that rather than giving the truth the government is trying to fit the truth to reflect their ability to cope. They have said they are working with the likes of Tesco’s to ensure people self isolating can get food, this was denied by those concerned.
They now think that ex drs and nurses should become volunteers not to mention the fact that a vast majority of people will be expected to stay at home if that get the virus.

Boris isn’t worried because he wants to close down parliament and run away leaving all us to suffer the consequences while he is happy saving the economy and all his mates’ investments.

From that Telegraph article:

"Next week, ministers are expected to announce that Britain has reached the point where all hope of stopping an epidemic has been lost.

It is feared that the outbreak could follow the pattern seen in other European countries."

@tryingtoprep

Is Boris not concerned for himself? He's over 50. I know he'd get treatment regardless of bed capacity but does he realise or care his policy puts him at risk too?

Along the theme of combining couples names, Donald and Boris become Doris.

Apologies of course, to anyone called Doris.

Women's Six Nations: Scotland v France postponed after home player tests positive for coronavirus

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51777621

They’d be quite happy for older people to die off quickly, so they won’t have to pay out for pensions or long-term health or social care. I don’t believe a word they say about their ability to cope and the plans they say they have put in place.

This outbreak will follow other countries because we are doing nothing to stop it! The lack of action from the government is shocking, the foreign office are still not advising against travel to Italy and they are still only advising self quarantine if you have symptoms when we know this can be passed on when symptom free.

"Could be told", "Might" do something or other, etc, etc. Any protective action needs to be taken now. Not possibly at some as yet unknown unspecified maybe date in the future - when it will too late. Implement work from home for those who can now. Postpone or cancel sports events and other large gatherings now. Those most at risk should be told to self isolate now. Talk about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!

Banning OAPs from sports grounds? Wouldn't it make more sense to postpone or cancel the events? The risk starts at 50? Well below pension age - and it ignores the many, many young people with underlying conditions.

Anyone else feel like the brakes are off and we’ve just started moving?

I feel like I’m opening Pandora’s Box every time I come onto this thread.

A week of no over 70s at football makes a rule for all football behind closed doors easier to digest for the fans I would expect in the next few weeks.

The loss of revenue from matchday for all clubs will be huge.