worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 14

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

I’ve been off mine for a bit and just caught up and missed your post @GPwife2411. Good idea to remove the details, but any chance You could pm me the link DH works with airlines and has been unable to get any, despite putting an order in last week he’s heard everything is out of stock a sworriedfor his staff. . Thanks.

I don't know whether you recall the patient I mentioned yesterday who was symptomatic but not getting tested due to the (outdated) criteria.

DH managed to get him assessed today (including likely swabs) as yesterday he had indeed been sent away without being seen - but it did require 45 minutes on the phone and an escalation up the management chain. On DH's day off! Clinical judgement is clinical judgement ffs, if a GP is worried someone does have CV then this should be taken seriously without having a monumental fight. It's in everyone's interest to pick up cases.

One of the clinicians DH initially spoke to (not someone in public health, trying not to be too outing but think nurse/ paramedic at 111) did indeed come out with a line about it being similar to the flu.

Ugh. I think the doctors will get there eventually as they are all now complaining loudly, in large numbers now, but we will have lost valuable time in this process.

SirVixofVixHall - No deaths in Germany yet, do they have excellent healthcare there ?

They have pretty decent but expensive healthcare, but free or cheap if you are old/unemployed/low earners/students etc. the best feature is that you usually refer yourself to a specialist, there are just as many GPs as there are specialists accessible on the high street. Not sure of actual figures though.

@stella1know - thank you for the update from Germany. I hope that you and your family stay well.

@idonttrustboris
How come every other country seem to be taking every measure possible to stop this but Boris seems to just be saying "come on then, let's have you" to it

I'm guessing it's because the man is an idiot.

Donald Trump has said the virus “will go away,” insisting that “we closed it down, we stopped it, it was a very early shutdown.”

Wake up and smell the coffee, Don.

SirVix I live in Germany
Yes, Germany spends a lot and has an excellent healthcare system.
It has more doctors and about 3 x as many hospital beds per 1,000 population than the UK

BUT
the authorities here have said we have a pandemic and have been taking it very seriously

It is only a matter of time before we see deaths in Germany too

A lot of the German cases are very recent. This virus seems to take about 3 weeks to kill someone. It’s just had a head start in Italy.

Good to hear that Germany has a high bed ratio.
I live in a part of the Uk where the bed ratio is horrifyingly low, and it is really worrying me how on earth we will cope.

#France will close nurseries and schools for 15 days from Monday in the two areas most hit by #coronavirus infections, one north of Paris and the other in the northeastern part of the country: prime minister

(Reuters)

The head of the @WHO's emergencies program, Dr. Michael Ryan, says there is no evidence that the coronavirus outbreak will end in the summer like an influenza season and statements to the contrary are a ‘false hope’ t.co/sqeUFnI2aQ t.co/vytCeTRRlY

#USA- Death toll from #coronavirus rises to 15

The UK number has gone up to 164 - new case in NI.

Just found Dr John Campbell’s Facebook page and started following, so I don’t need to wait for someone to post the link here. He’s become my daily bath time viewing (away from the kids so they don’t worry) 🙂

@GPwife2411 excellent news re the patient getting tested. Good to know it is possible. I emailed our regional PHE coronavirus helpline last night and hadn't had a reply by the time I left work today. We did the new guidelines though and hopefully getting PPE next week (not much of it, but still).
The hand gel you posted is about normal price, for that quantity, if anyone still wants reassuring.
Our admin team all have some by their desks and at reception. I added boxes of tissues to the waiting room so people can cough/sneeze (wishful thinking). More patients using the hand gel too.
I put a bottle by the patient side of my desk and was offering it to anyone who didn't ask/use it.

I won't be back in work until next Friday as I'm on a course next week, so will be interesting to see how much has changed in general practice by then (annoyed I'll probably miss the PPE mask FIT testing training though, if that happens).

United States confirms 5 #COVID19 cases in the Houston area, including 4 in Harris County. The new cases involved 4 people in their 60s who were exposed to the virus during a trip to Egypt last month. The 5 people contracted the virus independently of each other.

I thought Egypt only had one case?

ffs, Trump:

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa/new-york-confirms-two-more-coronavirus-cases-state-total-at-13-idUSKBN20S1W0

“It certainly might have an impact.

At the same time, I have to say people are now staying in the United States spending their money in the U.S., and I like that.”

Has anyone else seen this?

Looks like China had one type of wave, but the rest of the world has a curve much more expected for a pandemic ...

Coronavirus: Premier League considers ban on over 70s at matches over coronavirus
news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sports-bosses-and-broadcasters-summoned-to-discuss-contingency-plans-11951225

@Bessica1970

Can you send me the link to his FB page please?

The trouble with the USA and Donnie in trying to take this seriously is that around 85 people (that's a conservative number) are killed due to guns every single day over there and yet they are no nearer to changing their gun laws. Until they star getting huge numbers of deaths he will carry on spouting his crap and people will still vote for him.

ITALY- A policeman from Matteo Salvini's escort is positive for #coronavirus

Its odd though cos on the one hand there is evidence that its been around for longer and numbers are unreported

and on the other hand there is evidence that numbers are being unreported and cases jump quite rapidly

The whole thing is confusingly odd

@Furfockssake I think if you went back further the wave would look similar in China though first hand accounts have it starting way back in November that coupled with the diagnostic criteria being changed back I think they are v similar