Coronavirus thread 12

[VivaLeBeaver]

Can’t see one? Sorry if there is one.

At the end of that article.."whether society is prepared to bear the costs."

No.

And that’s what we are seeing isn’t it? The government is prioritising finance over health... which doesn’t shock me at all

Supply chains and warehousing are ok right now. So going shopping makes sense, however going in and buying a shelf of stuff for yourself is selfish. But most people are not doing that where I live. Everything ok.

What are we thinking about numbers for today? We had quite a big jump yesterday so maybe (hopefully) a smaller increase. Think if it goes above 100 then we’ll see more measured being implemented from the government?

What are we thinking about numbers for today?

We're at 87 now, so I expect around 111 at 2pm. If it's below 100 today I would be very surprised.

Hi just heard 90 on BBC. 3 more from Scotland I think

A couple of days ago Scottish medical officer said life goes on.
That's the mantra.

Anyway off out in the sunshine.

Best wishes.

I'm very unimpressed at talk of closing down Parliament but letting everything else continue as normal.

Twitter quote that just caught my eye:

Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate.

Cheeky isn't it.

Has anyone else seen the alleged breakdown of cases per age group in France?

Yet the information, partial though it is until the pandemic is over when they can finally provide the accurate statistics, is out there. With the WHO.

Paris metro worker infected. Expect withdrawal of labour by French union very soon.
Coronavirus : une agente RATP contaminée, via @LePoint
www.lepoint.fr/tiny/1-2365850

According to the data on the link we have 2.5 per 1000, so 2500 per million or 134000 for the population. If the reasonable worst case scenario came to unfold then, oh, we'd only be 10 million short.

Plus you need to remember that at least half of those beds will be in use or completely inappropriate for respiratory illness, eg maternity beds, psych beds. Leaving us maybe 80,000 if we're generous.

We also only have about 4000 ITU beds. We could maybe free up half of these for coronavirus by cancelling non urgent ops, leaving us 2,000.

Using the percentage of 5% needing ITU and 20% needing hospital (altogether), our services would be overrun for ITU once 40,000 are infected, and for hospital in general once 400,000 are infected.

On a prediction of millions infected, it's not looking hopeful....

@MaxNormal

Wow! Thank you for posting this, I could t access it either.

I hope Chris Whitty has access to this, a very important insight and should be taken into account surely.

I saw there was a cluster in an evangelical church group.

I guess the age of the cases reflect the nature of major clusters at the moment.

Interesting profile in the Guardian of the CMO, Prof Chris Whitty.

3 further cases in Scotland, from what I read, one just back from Italy & another had close contact with an already diagnosed individual. Takes our total to 6. Closest one to me, only maybe 20 minutes away. Scary!

And that’s what we are seeing isn’t it? The government is prioritising finance over health... which doesn’t shock me at all

Me neither. There obviously does need to be some concern about finance; a lot of people are worried about their own financial situation too.

But no, health should be the priority.

It's rather quiet in my neck of the woods. Far less cars on the roads, less people on the buses and on the station platform. A friend didn't connect as to why and then just exclaimed that people just need to chill out

@Mittens030869 the Government are following the advice of WHO, PHE and the CMO. That’s why our actions seem similar to all other western societies. They are all following the same pandemic plan - contain, delay and mitigate.

Switzerland reports first death due to coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

Pet cats and dogs cannot pass the new coronavirus on to humans, but they can test positive for low levels of the pathogen if they catch it from their owners. t.co/i61dHjhnRD

Three more patients have tested positive for coronavirus in Scotland, taking the total number of confirmed cases across the UK to 90.

t.co/dqRMHc0K6j

We will start closing schools and locking down areas when the community transmission reaches a point similar to other countries that have taken those actions. If the economy is allowed to totally tank by just locking everyone inside, none of us will survive.