Coronavirus thread 12

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@middleager my child suffered from 'viral induced wheeze' as a toddler. I'm worried for him but I'm worried for him most times whenever I hear a cough in case it turns into something else. The evidence so far shows children even newborn babies aren't badly affected so please try not worry x

I started reading this thread half an hour ago and there are lots of very useful updates, links and sensible explanations so thank you to those who make this happen (I missed the other 11 threads). By the time I got to the end page 15 it’s all gone wrong and panicky. All these wild speculations and panic isn’t helping anyone especially as every third poster on MN appears to suffer with anxiety of some degree.
There’s no such thing as gut feeling predicting any kind of outcome here. Even if this was an accidental or planned biological weapon release (purely to humour the concept), it doesn’t change the current situation. We can only go by what we read and are told by official sources.
Could we try and keep this realistic and as factual as possible?!

@Puzzledandpissedoff. I think he was getting that in there for all the morons that think it has. Have you seen in America the sales have dived because people think there's a link. Ffs

I've seen a lot of questions on this thread about why more testing isn't being done. I don't know much about the specific test for corona virus, but my understanding is the test is PCR, which is slow, convoluted and expensive.

PCR generally (no idea about specific cv test) means multiple cycles, with genetic material being replicated and increased at each cycle. Some tests are 40 cycles, each cycle takes a set length of time and this can't be changed.

Any lab will have crunch points, which limit the number of tests which can take place simultaneously. An unexpected epedemic probably means a limited amount of reagents and standards are available, a limited number of people will be trained to do the tests and there is a limited amount of equipment.

Hospital labs are always busy places and they will still have to deal with normal workload at the same time as these thousands of extra tests.

So I have a friend who has called saying they went to get Vitamin C as I instructed them to and the main Boots in Manchester was completely sold out, in all forms and sizes. No hand sanitizer either but that’s a given as it’s now become a Unicorn product.

Thank god I got a years supply of VitC a few weeks ago.

@RedToothBrush And releasing location of cases.. once a week online means less of the over 70s are likely to see it.

@puzzledandpissedoff I think that's because so many people have been saying stuff about it and their sales have reduced dramatically in America apparently? Probably just a joke.

Talk of winners is unhelpful too. Every country is working round the clock to contain and mitigate so it doesn’t makes sense. Speculation is unnecessary and wrongheaded.

RedToothbrush that’s just stirring up speculation for no reason.

Vit C in OJ and lemon juice too, which I have got hold of easily

Red I think is bang on the money there 👀

@HelenaDove

Yes, that's right. Posting figures once a week deffo means it's a conspiracy.

So who do you think is responsible? Bilderberg? The Illuminati?

You've stockpiled tinfoil hats, right?

Okay a couple points...

I do feel a bit panicky and PP’s are right I need to step back and think logically

BUT it’s human nature to want to hear first hand accounts as opposed to “evidence” and “info” from other sources

This is the premise for mumsnet! We know we have a GP but we want to hear other mums experiences

I am frightened and I would feel better hearing from a range of patients...

Helena do you think everyone else who sees the location online can avoid it better?

Tin foil stuff.

Fair points about the sales losses by Corona beer I guess ... I just thought it an odd thing for a doctor to focus on, but probably in his job he's accosted by the terminally stupid every day

Been following this thread for a few days now. Have been preparing a little and watching with growing concern. Was chat to an ortho surgeon at the weekend who said it’s too late to contain Covid-19. Cancelling public events, closing schools is pointless, it’s already out there.

True to a certain extent. Its where I think anyone who is really watching what the government is doing (as opposed to what they are saying) really is at.

Banning large gatherings could slow the spread though. It wouldn't contain it and it wouldn't stop it but it could be spread out rather than the peak being too sudden.

I also don't particularly get all the stuff about not wanting to travel 'because of the increased risk of catching it abroad'.

Reality is at this point you are probably just as likely to catch in the UK as on holiday.

There are reasonable grounds not to travel though: not having adequate insurance, not wishing to potentially end up in hospital abroad, not wanting to risk ending up quarantined either in the UK or abroad, your destination is a cruise ship. These aspects are not the ones primarily being considered though because we are still in the mindset that the disease is only caught abroad.

That needs to change soon. We are now getting local transmission and we have cases popping up in places we really don't want them to.

I had no idea people thought this way when given license. Best to stick to the facts.

@RedToothBrush
"we have cases popping up in places we really don't want them to."

Are there places where you DO want it to pop up?

What a load of nonsense!

If the government wanted to they could have acted to protect the old and vulnerable.

They have not chosen to take that route.

That is what RTB is saying.

Make of that what you will.

Can we please try and keep this thread a) factual not scare mongering and b) polite.

Sucking you’re missing the point. It’s not nonsense it’s actually the stark reality.

Being aggressive or shutting someone down who is making valid contributions here is downright wrong. If you suffer with anxiety or are apprehensive about the calamity we are facing I suggest you pop over to a fluffy thread.

@TreesSandSea I'm not sure I agree. The Government have very clearly given guidance a few days ago that anyone over 60 should not be in crowded places.

@HeIenaDove Thank you 🙏

suckingdieselfella Have you ever anything useful to contribute,
or are you just going to keep being aggressively rude to pp and claiming that it's all nonsense ?

Red Toothbrush. What a moronic load of crap.

Yes it is.

The original post was about only the environmentalists being 'winners' from coronavirus. If you want to be completely grim they aren't the only ones though.

Should add hand sanitiser manufacturers and funeral directors to the list too.

I'm afraid I can only deal with the subject with a deadpan and black humoured attitude.

I don't think there's a conspiracy at all.

If anything it's nature's way of dealing with human over population and longer life expectancy by having a mechanism that happens if human live too close to other species and have otherwise tackled known issues which normally in the past would have been fatal. Gaia theory if you will.