Worried about coronavirus part 10

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www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

i actually thouht he would step up now he has a vulnerable in his life due to his lady being pregnant.but he seems as fecking useless as ever.

Boris is going to continue to shake hands with everyone - even if they have the coronavirus!

Handshaking should just be discouraged! It’s a cheap (free) thing to install

“ I'm fuming about Hancocks handshaking message.”

Is he saying carry on?

I avoid it in normal circumstances.

Boris is a moron with no idea of infection control.

Panic enough to wash your hands constrantly but please keep spending money but not too much of it at the supermarket and be ready for big changes at any moment that might disrupt your lives but don't think about that and keep spending money, unless you are older in which case please hide indoors .

DC are supposed to be going on a school residential to France later this month including Disneyland. As far as we know, it’s all going ahead as planned. Would have appreciated some indication from the government about things like this.

That is a good sum up fourteafallout

They aren’t committing to anything at all

Why is it that the doctor from Mount Vernon has now been deemed to be negative?

He tested positive on test one, then negative on test 2. Despite the fact that false negatives are well documented and false positives would be hard to produce if the test was used correctly, we've decided we're going to go with the negative result overall?!

Seems a strange conclusion to me

Boris looks like a making it up as I go along clown in between two grown ups who can frame thoughts and string words together.

'Get coronavirus done'

'Oven ready illness'

This country voted for a pm who doesn't do details, wants briefing papers to be no longer than a page and thinks handy slogans are the way to run the country because everyone has had enough of experts.

Meanwhile in the real world things are quite complicated and anything that shows this up shows up our prime minister.

The desire for a simple life is one which isn't grounded in reality.

@newjez I think childrens lungs are just better, yes there is less pollution and smoking but also have you seen them run around a playground for hours? I get out of breath just watching them sometimes! Yet they are unfazed.

The Elements -

There was a question about going on holiday. They said that the virus is everywhere now so it won't make any difference if people go on holiday.

That's what I thought they said anyway.

Just watched this video of someone who had Coronavirus describing her experiences on bbc.

As someone with asthma, it has worried me. I have had bad flu several times before but never a virus targeting my lungs like this. This seems different. I wonder what the long term health effects are. She says she still cannot walk long distances.

What do you guys think

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Government are giving the Mushroom Treatment.
Much of the general public are doing a “boiling frog”.
This is not going to end well.

Am I right in thinking they just said that all travel should go ahead as normal? (as it's basically everywhere anyway and staying home will make no difference at this stage)

Friends are heading to Disneyland Paris at the end of this month and Costa Del Sol at the beginning of May and were on the verge of cancelling, I'm worried that they will go ahead now based on the advice from this press conference.

Yesterday, I had a meeting with ds’s headteacher. When I walked into the room he extended his hand and I said to him that I hope he wouldn’t be offended but because of the Coronavirus I am no longer shaking hands. You should have seen the look on his face, you would have thought that I was implying he was a leper! And then he said ‘Oh there’s no worry of getting anything off me, I’ve been sitting in my office all day’ 🙄

I thought that was a good and clear press conference. I mean Johnson obviously an idiot but the other two were clear and gave me confidence

'Oven ready illness'

I laughed, probably shouldn't! It does feel like that. It's like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 'Don't Panic' written on the cover in large, friendly letters.

I don't know what to do at this point
The DCs didn't go to school yesterday or today, but DD is due to interview for her GCSE choices in the next fortnight and there is a parent meeting one evening next week.
My concern is DS (for those new to threads he is ex-prem, COPD, asthma and Restricted airway syndrome).
If we adults get it, we can't go anywhere, one of us at least I'm starting to think needs to stay put and let the other (DP as he drives and I don't) go out for supplies only when needed. If he then gets unwell, we would need to quarantine him upstairs but not sure how as we only have one bathroom downstairs. I would assume/hope that should DP get it they would take him to a quarantine hospital due to DS but no idea.
I've rung the local hospital he is under about his allergy test appointment ( is 4-5 hours) to see if that would go ahead on 17th and as yet it will but I mentioned having spoken to hospital secretary on Saturday and being told she wouldn't ask his lung consultant to call me as they are busy and the lady I spoke to today Wass actually quite cross and will indeed ask her to call or drop me an email. She was also honest and said at the moment they don't know, and she wouldn't want to give me advice that was speculative.

They were still vague on children with conditions and I think that's because they just don't know.

Just watched this video of someone who had Coronavirus describing her experiences on bbc.

Watched it earlier today. She clearly didn't have a serious case of COVID-19. The worst part for her was the enforced isolation.

Well that was useful

Only 1% will die .. everyone else can survive this...

Well firstly, there’s a big gap between dying and oh it’s just like the cold

Secondly, yes a huge number will have this in a treatable form... will they have access to that treatment? I doubt it

Does the total nos of cases tested include all those tested in the trial/senitel programme in the 8 hospital trusts and 100 GP surgerys ??

The Elements - from Guardian live feed:

*There is a question about whether people should cancel their plans to go abroad for holidays.

Whitty says that it’s about whether people are travelling to high risk areas or not. But there will potentially come a point at which it which infection is so widespread that it makes no differences as to where people travel.*

Also:

Johnson is asked if he will continue to shake hands with visiting dignitaries. He says that he continues to shake hands and did so when he was at a hospital “the other night” where there were coronavirus patients.

The trouble is, this "teetering on a brink" message is psychologically quite exhausting..... and after a while I think people will kind of shrug and square their shoulders and carry on as normal.....

It has a bit of a feeling of a live drill scenario too - by this I mean that whatever the unrealised potential of this virus, the reporting and measures taken elsewhere are applicable to much more immediately critical situations. I think it's confusing that other countries are implementing much stronger measures but we're applying wait and see logic - and again, the time frame issue bugs me somewhat.

Ah well, shall go about my day as usual...... am looking forward to communal singing of Happy birthday as we all wash our hands in public places though...... lol.