Coronavirus is on my literally.

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My GP, at the bottom of my road. WIBU to panic now? I have 2 young kids (1 baby.) I’m more concerned about them... 😕

@billsmothers there's different severities of pneumonia.

For example there's 'walking pneumonia' where the person has few symptoms and there's you know, death.

And all the other severities in between.

Have a look here the number of infections has been slowing the infected graph was going up starifght line but it seems to have topped out a bit now.
There is a limited number of tests available in China to confirm positive cases. They are now testing as many people as they can each day - so the number of new cases will stay pretty steady each day, unless testing capability is increased further.

'Just like the flu'.

Aye, China closes down every flu season, didn't you know?

I believe the doctor who has succumbed to this disease, was a whistleblower. Or that's how he has been described in some media. He could obviously see that it was a serious infectious risk and it seems that he announced it without seeking prior approval from government. Well that's what it reads like to me and I read mainstream media.

They also haven't confirmed what the 2 British frontline workers were - whether they were GPs or nurses.

How many have they contaminated?

I'm not panicking but I am concerned - the same way I am about measles/chicken pox
I'm immunocompromised, it's all well saying trust your immune system - I don't have one!
People say oh it won't affect me, only the people who have immune problems. I was only diagnosed age 32, I was healthy until them and now I'm immunocompromised for life

In all my many years in the planet I've never seen entire cities quarantined, evacuations etc. We didn't even see this for SARS or the Ebola virus. There's something going on.

@FoamingAtTheUterus

Exactly. This is really frightening. I suspect the mortality rate is horrific and that it's extremely infectious. The asymptomatic super spreaders... oh my :-(

I have updated my will and included two 'scenarios'

@ClientQueen

I'm in a similar position - low immunity (and severe asthma).

It's disheartening when people say there's no need to worry, that if you are healthy and strong you'll be fine, as if it's automatically the case that we are all healthy and strong. It's the invisible conditions people don't often seem to understand, like lack of immunity, asthma, etc

Take care of yourself x

I am very slow and stupid today with fatigue, struggling to read and wondered if anyone could tell me where I'm going wrong with my understanding?

Did the Imperial analysis predict a possible death rate at 18% for infected people? But I thought it was supposed to be predicted at 1-2%?

18% seems horrifically high - what have I picked up wrong?

Does everyone that catch it die or do some recover?

98%;survive

Others have it mildly they don’t know it’s anything more than cold - they can spread it as are unaware they have its

And let’s have some perspective - in 2013-14, it is estimated that about 11,000 people died from flu IN THE UK

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be cautious or careful about it. That’s not the same thing at all as ‘hysteria’. They’re not rounding up bus loads of people and putting them in quarantine camps for standard flu. They still don’t think they know enough about the virus either - how it spreads, how it mutates, how it affects different groups. Until they do, it’s potentially a really dangerous situation to be exposed to it.

Also, saying this carefully and without xenophobia, I don’t know if I (or even medical community) believe they’re definitely getting the full picture from Chinese authorities either, in terms of numbers especially.

They don't know the true mortality rate yet I would guess, as most who have it, still have it and have neither died yet or recovered if that makes sense?

The issue is that this is a virus which has not been seen in humans, therefore the panic and uncertainty can be justified. I work with a Chinese company and have daily contact with them. The fear is that this was not picked up from a wet market, but is instead a man made virus. Don’t believe the small death toll as reported by the Chinese media. It’s one of the most heavily censored counties.

I've no idea why China would be a target for a man made virus? Unless Trump is playing with some of his toys lol.

My concern is the lack of info about survivors. We are told there are lots of infected but that most of them survive, but if that’s the case where are they?!

only 10% of new cases are detected in China, maybe up to 25% elsewhere. That means 50,000 new cases each day in China at present.

They believe the epidemic will peak in Wuhan in one month and in China in two months. The rest of the world may not peak for 3-4 months. Limited evidence of impact of control measures to isolate severe cases because mild cases maintain the epidemic.

Takes up to 20 days or more to die from this. That's why China has such a higher death rate than elsewhere at present.

We still have a way to go.

@Aridane

This virus is more contagious and more deadly than the flu. We have no vaccine and no immunity to this virus.

Please educate yourself.

Has anyone seen these poor divils on the cruise? The husband misses his whiskey lol

There's a second video of them too.

I'm not worried for myself but I am concerned for my dm who has a life limiting illness and who's lung function is already comprised. If it spreads through the U.K. I have images of patients like my mum being dying on trolleys in hospital corridors with staff being completely overwhelmed.

Wel,l for man flu survivors this isn't worrying... having already survived the most lethal infection in the world!

I hope most people do routinely wash their hands anyway. Other than that there is no need to think about it further. I really am bemused by people suggesting that you should avoid going out or to busy places - hoe many people have the opportunity to stop normal life on a whim!

2% was the mortality rate based on dead / infected, not dead / survived ratio. As the number of infected grows every day exponentially, it is clearly biased, and it is too early for reliable cohort studies.
A good proxy for the mortality in a pandemic scenario is those in critical condition (currently around 20%). In case when hospitals are full / dysfunctional, and critical care is not available, it turns into the mortality rate.
Additional mortality comes from "business as usual" conditions which won't get treated during pandemic due to the lack of medical resources. For example, maternal mortality was Middle Age horrific during the Spanish flu and the more recent Ebola outbreak (not that the baseline level in the latter case is fantastic either). But chronic conditions like diabetes, asthma, epilepsy etc. which are manageable under the normal conditions, can turn deadly during the lack of medical resources.