Is the green party starting to regret it's association with Islamists?

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The green party, ostensibly about climate protection and general progressive values seems to have gotten into bed with Islamist sympathisers and the amount of anti semitism and basic hatred of their own country is now obvious.

The green party now at least locally are known as a party that has sympathies towards all manner of Islamist causes including Hamas's objective to wipe Israel of the face of the Earth.

Wouldn't be surprised if they produce a motion declaring climate change a Jewish conspiracy........

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Hmm. Mostly buddhists I know have a live and let live belief. Karma and all that.
Buddhism was big in the east for a while but displaced by islam which is more proselytising. In Afghanistan the taliban were so keen to impose a new history they blew up the ancient world heritage site of the Bamiyan Buddhas.
There was quite a nasty civil war in Sri Lanka recently between the majority Buddhist Sinhalese & the minority Hindu Tamils, so not all peace & understanding.
Haven't noticed an issue with buddhism in UK though some Sri Lankan origin brits I know have complained about refugees bringing their homeland prejudices with them. Not good for societal cohesion really.

So why say about a mystical theory you have at all, that isn't holding your tongue. It is alluding to some theory for hold. One I might add that if I am guessing rightly most of us have heard of already. Therefore you just don't want to speak without ant evidence to back up tbe claims. Whoever you want to allude to the claims anyway by speaking in tongues. Just post something or don't because it is ridiculous to post but not say what you are obviously bursting to say.

On another note why do you think you are so bursting to post about this? What is it that motivates you? Yes we know dead women and children but there is obviously more to your posting on mumsnet about Israel than just that.

How do you explain the fact that over 20% of Israel’s population are Arab?

Around 1.5 million Arab citizens, alongside various other minorities, have full voting rights and citizenship in this supposedly ‘ethnosupremacist’ state.

Anyone can make wild claims, but that doesn’t make them accurate.

I'm sorry but you are confusing a deliberate deflection by whataboutism with a comparative study. This is not a comparative study. If a person is pulled over for speeding, they cannot claim they are being held to a higher standard because the police aren't currently catching every other speeder on the planet. Using other conflicts as a deflection to evade accountability remains a weak and disingenuous tactic designed to dilute the facts in question.

What’s your opinion on this @Squeezingwildoranges ?
Talk about ethnosupremacism.

That is interesting, thanks. I don't know much about them but like to learn.

My husband is into reading all religious books despite being very atheist. Don't think he has done Buddhist but he has done Hindu, the Gheta. He says if he was focred to choose a religion it would be Hindu. It is quite lovely in its teachings apparently. When he read the Quran he had to take a couple of months out from reading, lets just say to digest the content properly.

Once you see the number of ways Israel is held to a double standard, you cannot unsee it, and you start to understand that this is the modern socially acceptable form of antisemitism.

The straw man poster has started to see it, hence the desperate attempts to dismiss it as "whataboutery", because otherwise she might have to face the question she cannot reconcile with her self-image... "are we the baddies?"

Ooohh, what theory would that be?

First off they do not have exactly the same rights. They are second class citizens. The other point is, the 20% figure. This was set by David Ben Gurion in 1947 so as to whitewash any future apartheid accusations but to ensure that Jewish citizens would maintain power. It is not a random figure. This has been discussed and put to bed a hundred times on this forum.

Absolutely.

But you often post what could be described moralistic or judgemental comments about Israel or other posters opinions. Therefore posters can quite rightly ask questions about your opinions on similar situations. Ask for you to cast the same moralistic or judgement opinion on those. That is not whataboutism because you have opened yourself up to scrutiny.

If you only stated fact or added links etc and not your own opinion or Judgement of a situation and people asked you about say Pakistan then that is whataboutism

That doesn't answer my hypothetical question though. I don't think the Rohingya would agree that Buddhists are that nice.

I didn’t say they all had exactly the same rights, what makes them second-class citizens though?
Do you think Jews living in Arab countries have more rights than Arabs living in Israel?

Anyway, here is what Google says:

Arabs in Israel: Arab citizens have full voting rights and hold active political power. They regularly win seats in the Knesset (parliament), serve as judges on the Israeli Supreme Court, work as high-ranking diplomats, and operate freely in all professional sectors. Despite experiencing documented structural discrimination and socio-economic gaps—particularly regarding land distribution and municipal funding—their foundational constitutional and civil rights are guaranteed by law.

Jews in Arab Countries: In the few Arab nations where micro-communities of Jews remain, they generally do not enjoy independent political representation or full democratic rights. Historically, under traditional Islamic governance (dhimmi status), Jews were subjected to restrictive legal systems. In modern times, the rise of state-sanctioned anti-Zionist legislation and strict authoritarian rule across most of the region has restricted the ability of religious minorities to safely organize politically, hold high public office, or openly criticize state policy.

You see you are willing to ask others hypothetical or opinions on other religions or countries but if someone were to ask the same of you that is a strawman apparently

It does answer it indirectly, in response to your accusation of racism (rather than concern for societal cohesion).
If you had read and comprehended my post you would note my mention of buddhism in Sri Lanka as somewhat less peaceful.

That should say whataboutism not strawman shouldn't it 😁

Oh well everyone knows what I mean

The lack of comprehension thing is a little annoying too

It's a special Super Secret Theory that will definitely Prove Everyone Else Wrong and The Incontrovertible Evidence is coming Real Soon Now, albeit maybe not until after the thread is full and/or everyone has lost interest in it.

Are Buddhists currently forming voting blocs in the UK or trying to infiltrate British political parties to influence our domestic policy?

Yep, must be that.

It’s really fascinating. Hamas committed atrocities on October 7th, gleefully filmed themselves and broadcasted it for the world to see.

And yet you get people like pp, who, when asked why Hamas did what they did (since they must have known there would be retaliation from Israel) make vague claims about ‘more truths to come out’ and ‘substantial evidence to support a theory’ they and many others allegedly now have, and that they need just a bit more evidence for the grand reveal.
Fascinating, really.

It's pure cognitive dissonance. Imagine having been suckered by Hamas and then having to face up to it. The psyche will twist itself in knots to avoid that.

More whataboutism. Hitler was named Time magazine man of the for 1938. Is that relevant to Gaza.

Are there millions of Palestinians living under Israeli control with no rights or self determination. If the answer is yes, they are living under apartheid. If the answer is no, tell Israel to get out of their country and get back to the Green line.

"Therefore posters can quite rightly ask questions about your opinions on similar situations". For what purpose. What has my opinion on Pakistan or the Armenian Genocide or the Rape of Nanking got to do with what is happening in Israel. It's like someone having a discussion on Ian Brady and someone jumping in and saying what about Jeffrey Dahmer. Does it make Ian Brady more or less of a monster.

Time person of the year is not an endorsement- it was a title for the person who had influenced the News most in that year.
Highly disingenuous to suggest otherwise…
In contrast the Grand Mufti actively embraced Nazism