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Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists

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mids2019 · 09/09/2026 06:25

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.OrlaNdo memorial

The government's decision to sanction Israel, a democratic ally in the ME, surely is a reward to all those that have spouted Jew hate on our city streets. If the government is willing to distance itself from Israel won't this be seen as further motivation for the radical Islmist left to continue their campaigns in the UK. It's a shameful moment and it will take a lot to rebuild relations with Israel.

Chief Rabbi and Tory leader react furiously to Labour sanctions

Britain's Chief Rabbi said a trade ban on Israeli settlements in the West Bank was 'truly a dark day for British Jews'.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16115899/Miliband-accused-Jews-UK-danger-Chief-Rabbi-Tory-leader-react-Labour-sanctions-Israeli.html

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Comesround · 12/09/2026 14:27

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inamarina · 12/09/2026 15:42

RedTagAlan · 11/09/2026 16:51

When you say Judea and Samaria , should you not be saying West Bank. That being Palestinian territory.

As far as I know, Judea and Samaria is the historic term.
West Bank was the name given to that area by Jordan in 1948, after they had annexed it. It was to distinguish the newly annexed territory on the western side of the Jordan River* *from the rest of Jordan, which lay on the ‘East Bank’.
It’s not some historical term tied to the Palestinian identity.

inamarina · 12/09/2026 15:53

iwishitwouldstartraining · 11/09/2026 16:52

I have and, as far as I can see, the definition doesn't cover people who have no strong belief about whether Israel should or shouldn't exist but simply believe that, like Italy, it does exist, and therefore has as much right to exist as any other country.

You keep mentioning Italy, but nobody questions whether Italy should exist, do they? Israel, on the other hand…
There are over 20 countries that don’t recognise it.

RelaxAndDetox · 12/09/2026 19:33

inamarina · 12/09/2026 15:42

As far as I know, Judea and Samaria is the historic term.
West Bank was the name given to that area by Jordan in 1948, after they had annexed it. It was to distinguish the newly annexed territory on the western side of the Jordan River* *from the rest of Jordan, which lay on the ‘East Bank’.
It’s not some historical term tied to the Palestinian identity.

Jordan annexing the area, not a problem. Renaming to earmark for a future Palestine state, not a problem. Somes things are ok it seems.

Neverstopwondering · 12/09/2026 19:49

inamarina · 12/09/2026 15:42

As far as I know, Judea and Samaria is the historic term.
West Bank was the name given to that area by Jordan in 1948, after they had annexed it. It was to distinguish the newly annexed territory on the western side of the Jordan River* *from the rest of Jordan, which lay on the ‘East Bank’.
It’s not some historical term tied to the Palestinian identity.

It is a actually a stunning hypocrisy from the international community that anyone still calls it the West Bank

It was under occupation by Jordan for such a short time yet apparently that top trumps anything else

The way Jews living in the area are all refered to as settlers is a lack of knowledge or just properganda too. Yes there are settlers but also their are families that returned to their homes or new homes in the area after Jordan had ethic cleaned their families out during the occupation. Some Jews in the area are several generations of those families. However that doesn't fit the narrative and properganda of everyone their being European settlers

Neverstopwondering · 12/09/2026 19:56

RelaxAndDetox · 12/09/2026 19:33

Jordan annexing the area, not a problem. Renaming to earmark for a future Palestine state, not a problem. Somes things are ok it seems.

Someone will probably come along soon and explain that the Jews made them do it including the ethnic cleaning. It was all the Jews fault you see. The poor arabs invading armies had no choice but too do that and change the name to something that white washes the area of Jewish ties.

Neverstopwondering · 12/09/2026 20:02

Have a totally awesome 5787

Truly hope you all find a lot of peace love and happiness this year ❤️

DeterminedRat · 12/09/2026 20:09

Neverstopwondering · 12/09/2026 19:49

It is a actually a stunning hypocrisy from the international community that anyone still calls it the West Bank

It was under occupation by Jordan for such a short time yet apparently that top trumps anything else

The way Jews living in the area are all refered to as settlers is a lack of knowledge or just properganda too. Yes there are settlers but also their are families that returned to their homes or new homes in the area after Jordan had ethic cleaned their families out during the occupation. Some Jews in the area are several generations of those families. However that doesn't fit the narrative and properganda of everyone their being European settlers

What do Palestinians want it to be called? It's their territory they should be able to call it whatever they please shouldn't they? Or do you believe their illegal occupiers should get to choose it for them?

It reminds me of Brits thinking that they know better than Irish people what the name of their country is and refusing to use it's actual name. Stunning arrogance.

Neverstopwondering · 12/09/2026 20:27

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Neverstopwondering · 12/09/2026 20:55

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RedTagAlan · 13/09/2026 04:19

inamarina · 12/09/2026 15:53

You keep mentioning Italy, but nobody questions whether Italy should exist, do they? Israel, on the other hand…
There are over 20 countries that don’t recognise it.

I think maybe PRC/ROC would be a better example ?

mids2019 · 13/09/2026 09:10

A very small majority support the government's decision but we seem to have caused further friction with the US and obviously Israel with no benefit to the UK. It seems a separate attempt to claw back the Islamo-left vote from the Greens by a new PM and I think this form of feature politics is doomed to fail. It just seems like some kind of reward for the hate marches against the global Jewish community which have led to a permissive era of anti Semitic proclamations and even terrorism.

Terrible decision.

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Squeezingwildoranges · 13/09/2026 09:40

Overall 52% for. 17% against and 31% unsure.

What's an Islamo- left?

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 13/09/2026 09:47

mids2019 · 13/09/2026 09:10

A very small majority support the government's decision but we seem to have caused further friction with the US and obviously Israel with no benefit to the UK. It seems a separate attempt to claw back the Islamo-left vote from the Greens by a new PM and I think this form of feature politics is doomed to fail. It just seems like some kind of reward for the hate marches against the global Jewish community which have led to a permissive era of anti Semitic proclamations and even terrorism.

Terrible decision.

A very small majority support the government's decision but we seem to have caused further friction with the US and obviously Israel with no benefit to the UK.

3 to 1 approving (52%) v not approving (17%) is not a small majority in any world. Are you trying to pretend the ratio is 52% to 48%?

The action has not been taken to benefit the UK. It has been taken to put pressure on Israel to stop the settler terrorism.

iwishitwouldstartraining · 13/09/2026 09:56

inamarina · 12/09/2026 15:53

You keep mentioning Italy, but nobody questions whether Italy should exist, do they? Israel, on the other hand…
There are over 20 countries that don’t recognise it.

Because recognising Israel's right to exist should not be any more complicated than recognising Italy's right to exist.

The UN and the vast majority of its members recognise Israel, but they aren't all making a statement about zionism.

Martymcfly24 · 13/09/2026 09:58

@mids2019
The. "hate marches" as you continuously refer to in your many many posts on them have been happening as far back as 1975 (first I could find recorded in the Uk)

Do you think minor sanctions against a major explosion in settler terrorism 51 years after the first march is what you would call a "reward" for these marches

Also Islamo-left? Seriously

StopMeStopMeStopMe · 13/09/2026 09:59

the hate marches against the global Jewish community

I thought it was considered antisemitic to conflate Israel and the global Jewish community?

People marching to protest against Israel’s actions and in support of the Palestinians are not marching in hate against the global Jewish community.

As I’m sure you are aware, there are many Jews and Jewish organisations on these marches.

Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists
Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists
Anti Semitism to increase after the government sides with Islamists
ForRedPoet · 13/09/2026 10:19

RelaxAndDetox · 12/09/2026 19:33

Jordan annexing the area, not a problem. Renaming to earmark for a future Palestine state, not a problem. Somes things are ok it seems.

Exactly.
The West Bank has been offered to the Palestinians many times. They refused it each time.
And when 2 Arab countries controlled the Gaza and the West Bank, neither wanted to grant the land to Palestinians.

Luckily all facts can be ignored when painting Israel as an evil monster.

Martymcfly24 · 13/09/2026 10:29

ForRedPoet · 13/09/2026 10:19

Exactly.
The West Bank has been offered to the Palestinians many times. They refused it each time.
And when 2 Arab countries controlled the Gaza and the West Bank, neither wanted to grant the land to Palestinians.

Luckily all facts can be ignored when painting Israel as an evil monster.

Are you talking about Camp David? It's not as simple as saying they refused it the deal was horrible for them.

localnotail · 13/09/2026 10:30

iwishitwouldstartraining · 11/09/2026 16:52

I have and, as far as I can see, the definition doesn't cover people who have no strong belief about whether Israel should or shouldn't exist but simply believe that, like Italy, it does exist, and therefore has as much right to exist as any other country.

Zionism has a strong connection to the Jewish nation and identity, this is why it has such negative connotations for many people. Same reason why Israel is treated so differently to any other country involved in a violent conflict.

I still can't believe that there are people who believe that an entire country should stop existing to make room for another country. So its abhorrent if its current insane Israeli government suggesting it, but OK if if its pro-Palestinian activists suggesting the same?

Martymcfly24 · 13/09/2026 10:33

localnotail · 13/09/2026 10:30

Zionism has a strong connection to the Jewish nation and identity, this is why it has such negative connotations for many people. Same reason why Israel is treated so differently to any other country involved in a violent conflict.

I still can't believe that there are people who believe that an entire country should stop existing to make room for another country. So its abhorrent if its current insane Israeli government suggesting it, but OK if if its pro-Palestinian activists suggesting the same?

I don't think there are any significant amount of people saying Israel should not exist. More that it should stop murdering and displacing civilians seems to be the main argument.

Cynergy · 13/09/2026 10:34

@iwishitwouldstartraining Israel's right to exist should not be any more complicated than recognising Italy's right to exist.

That's disingenuous. For one thing no one is questioning Italy's right to exist. For another thing, if this thing happened that we all know won't happen, Italians would have other countries to choose to go to in Europe that would share the same religion as them. What other countries could Jewish people emigrate to where Judaism is the main religion? In Israel, 73% of the population identify as Jewish.

Babyboomtastic · 13/09/2026 10:36

Cynergy · 13/09/2026 10:34

@iwishitwouldstartraining Israel's right to exist should not be any more complicated than recognising Italy's right to exist.

That's disingenuous. For one thing no one is questioning Italy's right to exist. For another thing, if this thing happened that we all know won't happen, Italians would have other countries to choose to go to in Europe that would share the same religion as them. What other countries could Jewish people emigrate to where Judaism is the main religion? In Israel, 73% of the population identify as Jewish.

People don't have the right to live in a country where their religion is the majority. The important thing thing is that religious freedom should be respected.

Cynergy · 13/09/2026 10:39

Martymcfly24 · 13/09/2026 10:33

I don't think there are any significant amount of people saying Israel should not exist. More that it should stop murdering and displacing civilians seems to be the main argument.

The Iranian government thinks Israel shouldn't exist and keeps trying to attack them.

Hamas and Hezbollah think Israel shouldn't exist.

29 United Nations member states do not formally recognize the State of Israel.

You don't think that is significant?