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Conflict in the Middle East

Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

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JadeHare · 28/05/2026 17:16

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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“Israel’s defence minister says large-scale Palestinian migration from Gaza will go ahead”
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https://apple.news/AnnlpJqlOTdW5cUbA9NEe1Q
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Israeli PM Netanyahu says he directed the military to take over 70% of Gaza | CNN

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday that he had directed Israel’s military to take over 70% of Gaza’s territory.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/07/2026 11:00

The Iranian leadership doesn't give a single shiny shit about the average Lebanese, it only cares about protecting its forward base and attacking Israel from that base.
In much the same way as Hamas doesn't give a shiny shit about how many innocent Palestinians have died, it cares mostly about attacking Israel.

Israel and IDF don’t give a shiny shit about the impact on the Jewish community, otherwise they’d act less like savages and wouldn’t hunt down any influential reporters who try to call out the actions against innocent people.
In fact I’d say a lot of high ranking people and politicians would love to have the balls to call them up but the consequences are massive, Israel has a level of control throughout America and the UK. Follow the money.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 11:06

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/07/2026 11:00

The Iranian leadership doesn't give a single shiny shit about the average Lebanese, it only cares about protecting its forward base and attacking Israel from that base.
In much the same way as Hamas doesn't give a shiny shit about how many innocent Palestinians have died, it cares mostly about attacking Israel.

Israel and IDF don’t give a shiny shit about the impact on the Jewish community, otherwise they’d act less like savages and wouldn’t hunt down any influential reporters who try to call out the actions against innocent people.
In fact I’d say a lot of high ranking people and politicians would love to have the balls to call them up but the consequences are massive, Israel has a level of control throughout America and the UK. Follow the money.

This is so utterly utterly depressing.

You think Iran protects Lebanon and that Israel doesn't care about the Jewish community?

I can't figure out if you're being deliberately provocative or if you do genuinely just not really know much about it.

You're not serious, either way.

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 11:20

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 07:09

Oh fgs anyone mentioning genocide is silenced? Are you living under a rock? Not a day passes without a celebrity or commitee or countless online threads accusing Israel of genocide. No one is silenced, ridiculous suggestion.
I'm interested in your opinion of why SA has delayed its case in the ICJ for a substantial amount of time to collect more evidence if its such a slam dunk clear cut genocide?

A little selective their Dairy

Israel delayed the case twice and issued its statement in a 1000 page document in mid March this year.
As such SA has requested time to look into that report which was expected and completely understandable

The case was brought against Israel in October 2024 and Israel were allowed, after being granted two extensions, till March 2026 to state their case

To state that SA are the ones delaying the case is disingenuous

Mantanora · 07/07/2026 11:54

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 11:06

This is so utterly utterly depressing.

You think Iran protects Lebanon and that Israel doesn't care about the Jewish community?

I can't figure out if you're being deliberately provocative or if you do genuinely just not really know much about it.

You're not serious, either way.

Iran, like any one with a brain, knows this invasion by Israel in Lebanon is nothing to do with so called self defense. Like the West Bank and the Golan Heights, this is about annexation and the Greater Israel project. Occupy, call it a security buffer zone and then later encourage settlement. Iran knows that the Lebanese regular army our powerless to stop it so yes, the only reason for this is to protect Lebanon.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:03

No disingenuity here.

Israel have sought to delay the case.

So have SA.

It was SA who bought the initial case with urgency due to unfolding humanitarian situation.

Seems a little let urgent now I guess.

Perfectly normal for defence to ask for more time too... Israel never said it was urgent though. Because obviously, they don't accept they are commiting a genocide.

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 12:07

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:03

No disingenuity here.

Israel have sought to delay the case.

So have SA.

It was SA who bought the initial case with urgency due to unfolding humanitarian situation.

Seems a little let urgent now I guess.

Perfectly normal for defence to ask for more time too... Israel never said it was urgent though. Because obviously, they don't accept they are commiting a genocide.

SA have requested and been given time to analyse the 1000 pages that Israel have submitted

That’s how the judicial system works

Or perhaps you would rather the case goes ahead with SA blind to it’s contents
That would certainly suit Israel.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:10

Mantanora · 07/07/2026 11:54

Iran, like any one with a brain, knows this invasion by Israel in Lebanon is nothing to do with so called self defense. Like the West Bank and the Golan Heights, this is about annexation and the Greater Israel project. Occupy, call it a security buffer zone and then later encourage settlement. Iran knows that the Lebanese regular army our powerless to stop it so yes, the only reason for this is to protect Lebanon.

Sure. Those fluffy wuffy Hezbollah terrorists, just protecting the sovereignty of the Lebanese. I wonder why if they only seek to protect Lebanon, the Lebanese government seeks to ban Hezbollah's military endeavors, and the LAF are supposed to be enforcing Hezbollahs disarming. I guess it's probably Israels doing isnt it? All that money swishing around along with the power. Follow the money eh?

Mantanora · 07/07/2026 12:14

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:10

Sure. Those fluffy wuffy Hezbollah terrorists, just protecting the sovereignty of the Lebanese. I wonder why if they only seek to protect Lebanon, the Lebanese government seeks to ban Hezbollah's military endeavors, and the LAF are supposed to be enforcing Hezbollahs disarming. I guess it's probably Israels doing isnt it? All that money swishing around along with the power. Follow the money eh?

Then perhaps explain to me why else Iran would spend so much time and effort on supporting Hezbollah and what the whole point of the fighting is. If they care nothing for Lebanon, why?

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:15

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 12:07

SA have requested and been given time to analyse the 1000 pages that Israel have submitted

That’s how the judicial system works

Or perhaps you would rather the case goes ahead with SA blind to it’s contents
That would certainly suit Israel.

No, I'd rather the case be heard with absolute integrity. Because as you know, I don't believe its a genocide, but I don't have access to the evidence and I know, being a human, its possible I'm wrong, and it could be found to be genocide. The bar for a legal finding being so high, I'll accept I'm wrong and that will require some quite radical rethinking of some of my positions.
Watching very carefully from over here.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:19

Mantanora · 07/07/2026 12:14

Then perhaps explain to me why else Iran would spend so much time and effort on supporting Hezbollah and what the whole point of the fighting is. If they care nothing for Lebanon, why?

Because they don't believe Israel should exist as a Jewish state on Islamic lands. Because they will arm and support anyone who seeks to attack Israel. Because they see Israel as a western supported colonial entity on historically Muslim lands.
And a lot of us here in the West seem to agree.

JadeHare · 07/07/2026 12:32

Whatever one wants to say about the threats to Lebanese sovereignty posed by Iranian influence, only one country is occupying southern Lebanon and demolishing entire Lebanese villages — and that country is not Iran.

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DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 12:33

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:15

No, I'd rather the case be heard with absolute integrity. Because as you know, I don't believe its a genocide, but I don't have access to the evidence and I know, being a human, its possible I'm wrong, and it could be found to be genocide. The bar for a legal finding being so high, I'll accept I'm wrong and that will require some quite radical rethinking of some of my positions.
Watching very carefully from over here.

Im glad to hear it
and I’m hoping the findings won’t be denied by the powers that be

JadeHare · 07/07/2026 12:35

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:19

Because they don't believe Israel should exist as a Jewish state on Islamic lands. Because they will arm and support anyone who seeks to attack Israel. Because they see Israel as a western supported colonial entity on historically Muslim lands.
And a lot of us here in the West seem to agree.

And that is such a simplistic view.

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JadeHare · 07/07/2026 12:38

was Israel’s 1982 occupation of southern Lebanon that birthed Hezbollah in the first place, and the conditions that led to its rise have only worsened since.

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dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:39

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 12:33

Im glad to hear it
and I’m hoping the findings won’t be denied by the powers that be

The ICC has never found a nation guilty of genocide. It would be unprecedented.

I can't help thinking they'd have had more chance of a guilty verdict in the ICJ with individuals.

Still maybe SA has something we don't know about.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:44

JadeHare · 07/07/2026 12:38

was Israel’s 1982 occupation of southern Lebanon that birthed Hezbollah in the first place, and the conditions that led to its rise have only worsened since.

Anyone can look up the rise of Hezbollah in the Bekaa valley under Revolutionary Iran's influence and make their minds up.

My point remains that Hezbollahs purpose is not to defend Lebanon. It never has been and it never will be.

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 12:44

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:39

The ICC has never found a nation guilty of genocide. It would be unprecedented.

I can't help thinking they'd have had more chance of a guilty verdict in the ICJ with individuals.

Still maybe SA has something we don't know about.

Thankfully

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is actively hearing the genocide case brought by South Africa against Israel, but a final verdict typically takes years of extensive legal deliberation, with a definitive judgment not expected before late 2027 or 2028.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:49

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 12:44

Thankfully

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is actively hearing the genocide case brought by South Africa against Israel, but a final verdict typically takes years of extensive legal deliberation, with a definitive judgment not expected before late 2027 or 2028.

Sorry got them the wrong way around.

One hears cases against individuals and has made legal findings of genocide against individuals. ICC.

The other hears disputes between states, this is where SA vs Israel is. This court has never made a legal finding of genocide. ICJ.

Mantanora · 07/07/2026 13:01

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:19

Because they don't believe Israel should exist as a Jewish state on Islamic lands. Because they will arm and support anyone who seeks to attack Israel. Because they see Israel as a western supported colonial entity on historically Muslim lands.
And a lot of us here in the West seem to agree.

Iran's support for Palestinian liberation has never wavered unlike many of their other Arab neighbours. To think this is only about religion is simplistic to say the least. Although there is an element to it, it is also about what they perceive as the unjust treatment of the Palestinians. Once Israel were driven out of Lebanon in 2000 and 2006, there was relative quiet on the border. The point is, the fighting right now is simply to try to stop Israel's expansionist ambitions so yes, they are trying to protect Lebanese sovereignty.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 13:08

Mantanora · 07/07/2026 13:01

Iran's support for Palestinian liberation has never wavered unlike many of their other Arab neighbours. To think this is only about religion is simplistic to say the least. Although there is an element to it, it is also about what they perceive as the unjust treatment of the Palestinians. Once Israel were driven out of Lebanon in 2000 and 2006, there was relative quiet on the border. The point is, the fighting right now is simply to try to stop Israel's expansionist ambitions so yes, they are trying to protect Lebanese sovereignty.

The Lebanese government is trying to disarm them. The Lebanese government has banned any military activities by them. The LAF is supposed to be enforcing their disarmament.
Is Hezbollah more in charge of Lebanese sovereignty than the actual Lebanese government?
Do you think generally terrorist groups should protect a States sovereignty rather than their own government?
Rather problematic isn't it?

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 13:18

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 12:49

Sorry got them the wrong way around.

One hears cases against individuals and has made legal findings of genocide against individuals. ICC.

The other hears disputes between states, this is where SA vs Israel is. This court has never made a legal finding of genocide. ICJ.

The ICJ has ruled on genocide in Bosnia v. Serbia,

Bosnia v. Serbia (2007): The ICJ determined that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide. The court ruled that Serbia did not commit or conspire to commit the genocide itself.
However, it found Serbia legally responsible for violating the Genocide Convention by failing to prevent the genocide and failing to punish the individuals responsible.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this will be the finding by the ICJ against Israel
as the bar of proof is so high and
Journalists have been denied access or killed by the IDF and
theres no one around other than Israel to search for massacred bodies whilst Palestinian graves are being bulldozed by Israel

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 13:23

DrPrunesqualer · 07/07/2026 13:18

The ICJ has ruled on genocide in Bosnia v. Serbia,

Bosnia v. Serbia (2007): The ICJ determined that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide. The court ruled that Serbia did not commit or conspire to commit the genocide itself.
However, it found Serbia legally responsible for violating the Genocide Convention by failing to prevent the genocide and failing to punish the individuals responsible.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this will be the finding by the ICJ against Israel
as the bar of proof is so high and
Journalists have been denied access or killed by the IDF and
theres no one around other than Israel to search for massacred bodies whilst Palestinian graves are being bulldozed by Israel

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Yes thats exactly what I mean. In my mind Serbia commited a very clear cut genocide- it was government policy at the highest level ( I know many believe the same with Israel ) and yet still no finding of genocide against Serbia the State.

Individuals were found guilty by the ICC though.

I guess we'll have to wait til 2029 or even longer...

JadeHare · 07/07/2026 13:24

I read this in Haaretz yesterday. Even Israeli’s don’t believe that Israel is doing all it can to protect its citizens:

“The ceremony began with an artificial intelligence video that combines imagination and reality. It explained that the airport connected Jerusalem to Middle Eastern capitals - which is accurate - but downplayed the fact that this was when it was under Jordanian control, and the airport's golden age ended with the Israeli occupation.”

“Atarot airport was never a bustling aviation artery, but the most blatant lie came in the next sentence: "Israel showed the entire world that it would do everything, but everything, to bring its sons and daughters home." In the front row sat a prime minister who did everything, but everything, not to bring back hostages, and at least 41 of them paid for it with their lives.

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“How an abandoned Jerusalem airport embodies Netanyahu's bleak vision for Israel”
Nir Hasson
Haaretz
https://apple.news/AQGxfQz3MSry9LoM-JNyn8A
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Analysis | How an abandoned Jerusalem airport embodies Netanyahu's bleak vision for Israel — Haaretz

The ceremony launching a heritage center at the abandoned Atarot Airport in the West Bank laid bare the failure of Israeli policy in Jerusalem and toward Palestinians - and the priorities of a failed government. There was even time to incite against an...

https://apple.news/AQGxfQz3MSry9LoM-JNyn8A

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Mantanora · 07/07/2026 13:28

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 13:08

The Lebanese government is trying to disarm them. The Lebanese government has banned any military activities by them. The LAF is supposed to be enforcing their disarmament.
Is Hezbollah more in charge of Lebanese sovereignty than the actual Lebanese government?
Do you think generally terrorist groups should protect a States sovereignty rather than their own government?
Rather problematic isn't it?

Actually Joseph Aoun is not very popular, especially amongst the Muslim Lebanese, who are the majority. Many Lebanese are not happy with the agreement he just signed not believing that Israel will pull back if Hezbollah are disarmed simply because when considering the scorched earth and displacement policy that Israel has been employing south of the Litani river, it indicates preparation for permanent occupation.

dairydebris · 07/07/2026 13:28

JadeHare · 07/07/2026 13:24

I read this in Haaretz yesterday. Even Israeli’s don’t believe that Israel is doing all it can to protect its citizens:

“The ceremony began with an artificial intelligence video that combines imagination and reality. It explained that the airport connected Jerusalem to Middle Eastern capitals - which is accurate - but downplayed the fact that this was when it was under Jordanian control, and the airport's golden age ended with the Israeli occupation.”

“Atarot airport was never a bustling aviation artery, but the most blatant lie came in the next sentence: "Israel showed the entire world that it would do everything, but everything, to bring its sons and daughters home." In the front row sat a prime minister who did everything, but everything, not to bring back hostages, and at least 41 of them paid for it with their lives.

Excerpt From
“How an abandoned Jerusalem airport embodies Netanyahu's bleak vision for Israel”
Nir Hasson
Haaretz
https://apple.news/AQGxfQz3MSry9LoM-JNyn8A
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Iron Dome
Bomb bunkers and bus shelters everywhere in case of airstrikes
National service
Hunting down anyone involved in the 7 October massacre
Repeatedly swapping multiple Palestinian prisoners for single Israeli hostages
Even insisting it continues to exist in the first place

I say solid 8.5 / 10 not bad at all could do better

Now you do Hamas?

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