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Conflict in the Middle East

Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

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JadeHare · 28/05/2026 17:16

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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“Israel’s defence minister says large-scale Palestinian migration from Gaza will go ahead”
Emma Graham-Harrison
The Guardian
https://apple.news/AnnlpJqlOTdW5cUbA9NEe1Q
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Israeli PM Netanyahu says he directed the military to take over 70% of Gaza | CNN

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday that he had directed Israel’s military to take over 70% of Gaza’s territory.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

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JadeHare · 31/05/2026 22:58

Leorag · 31/05/2026 22:50

So you believe in Sharia law...because that's what you're saying now? ,( but remember you did say you're anti every faith having " upper hand"?)

No. I am totally anti religion. Not sure how this is going to change things. As far as I am aware, most people recently on this board have fervently been anti islamic.

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Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:07

So typical that yet another thread started expressing concerns about the open declaration to ethnically cleanse Palestine has again been derailed by posts attacking Islam.

@maudmarple‘s post was spot on.

Leorag · 31/05/2026 23:08

JadeHare · 31/05/2026 22:58

No. I am totally anti religion. Not sure how this is going to change things. As far as I am aware, most people recently on this board have fervently been anti islamic.

We we agree then. No one is anti Muslim on this thread. Most people are anti Islamism as we value things like free speech, freedom to dress what we like, etc. They're quite different things.

DrPrunesqualer · 31/05/2026 23:16

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:07

So typical that yet another thread started expressing concerns about the open declaration to ethnically cleanse Palestine has again been derailed by posts attacking Islam.

@maudmarple‘s post was spot on.

Agree Ellen and

What a bloody disgusting pile on there Jade
Just ignore the baiting
They aren’t worth the air you breathe

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:26

Leorag · 31/05/2026 22:33

When you realise you're wrong, you can just say so. Read up on Islamism. And hope you never have to live under it.

Perhaps you should follow your own advice, particularly concentrating on the nuances and context of use and how Muslims feel about the term? A simple google should help.

Leorag · 31/05/2026 23:35

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:26

Perhaps you should follow your own advice, particularly concentrating on the nuances and context of use and how Muslims feel about the term? A simple google should help.

Done. No woman wants or needs to to live like that. And not just women...it's girls too and they're more important than adults.

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:40

Yes, there are posters who attempt to derail every thread on the genocide and ethnic cleansing by ranting about Islam.
edited to @JadeHare

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:47

Leorag · 31/05/2026 23:35

Done. No woman wants or needs to to live like that. And not just women...it's girls too and they're more important than adults.

If you were genuinely concerned about the fate of women, you would be opposed to ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:57

Leorag · 31/05/2026 21:15

Ilovepuppies2019.... sorry your post seemed to disappear as I was replying so I had to C&P it;

"Israel’s defence minister has announced large scale migration of Palestinians off their own land. Yes this is clearly as many Palestinians as is possible. If it’s not the majority then it won’t be through lack of trying. It will only be that ethnic cleansing is slow, resource intensive and will likely be moderately objected by the international community which will slow down the process further. Many Israeli settlers and some extremist Jsrralei politicians have announced their dream of removing Palestinians from Westbank, this is an actionable plan of a long stated intention. Let’s be clear that Israel’s official defence minister, a leader and representative of the views of the state of Israel, has called for ethnic cleansing. Perhaps the worst part of this is that a statement which is a staggering level of war crime and a crime against humanity made by an ally nation which we are heavily funding and supporting hasn’t even made the mainstream news.
Sorry, just so I’m sure I understand you, you’re calling for the religion of Islam in all its forms to be stamped out? You’re not referring to extremism, my understanding is that you think all Islamism is extremism, you’re referring to mainstream Islam practiced by approximately 2 billion people? To be clear, you feel the Islam is a danger to the people of the world while we’re hearing about an ideologically extreme defence Minister from another religion telling us that he would like to begin the ethnic clensing of the civilians, including women and children, as fast as possible? Don’t you see a hypocrisy in believing that Islam is incompatible with peace while an extremist leader from another religion demands a war crime which will strip Islamic women and children of a place to live and whatever remaining basic human rights they have? If not, then why not? Why does this ideological zealot and his war crimes not pose a threat but 2 billion people do?
I hope that either you or others reading this with similar views to you can appreciate that this is the definition of Islamophobia. You seem to feel the the entire religion is bad and that every Muslim is a threat. That is the textbook definition. You’re not alone, this thread is teeming with it. We have a leading Minister from an ally nation announced their intention to begin ethic cleansing. If this was any other nation then the thread would be full of posts asking how this, or st least our role in this, can be stopped. Instead we have pages of posts clearly implying that it’s justified or we should only be talking about the October tragedy. I don’t understand how the announcement of ethnic cleansing by an ally could be met with anything other than universal outrage"

And I think most of the "pro Palestinian" marchers have the same grasp of the situation as you and @JadeHare. If they were more educated on the nuances and didn't believe the propoganda ( which to be fair is pretty heavy, similar to how it was in 30s Germany in fact..

With all your interest in Israel and Gaza you've never been aware of Islamism or Islamist's??Which I suspect if you now Google, you will find you don't agree with? Or maybe you do🙅‍♀️

@ilovepuppies2019 I think you should have left your post up as your points are valid.

Leorag is telling people they don’t get the nuances and to google! I’ll paste that last bit of google again….

‘Islamist’ - Summary: If you are using it to describe an ideology, it is a neutral political term. However, because of its frequent association with extremism and fear-mongering, it is very often perceived as a derogatory label. about:blank 1]

BelleHathor · 01/06/2026 01:53

Ellen2shoes · 31/05/2026 23:57

@ilovepuppies2019 I think you should have left your post up as your points are valid.

Leorag is telling people they don’t get the nuances and to google! I’ll paste that last bit of google again….

‘Islamist’ - Summary: If you are using it to describe an ideology, it is a neutral political term. However, because of its frequent association with extremism and fear-mongering, it is very often perceived as a derogatory label. about:blank 1]

It's all part of a well funded co-ordinated plan to spread anti Muslim hate in the West. A poll by the Firm Stagwell (hired by the Israeli government) found that the best way to mend Israel's reputation in the West was to increase the fear of Muslims:

"Per Drop Site, the report from Penn’s firm apparently assessed that Israel has a good chance of making people forget about that nasty little genocide business if they stoke fear of “Radical Islam” and “Jihadism”. “Especially once the situation in Gaza is resolved, the room for growth in all countries [when it comes to Israel’s image] is very significant,” the report concludes. If you make people scared that babies are terrorists then they won’t mind when you murder them, basically.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/26/gaza-us-marketing-companies

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/leaked-israel-reputation-survey-research-mark-penn-stagwell

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zoescamanmarketing-agency-stagwell-cut-a-deal-with-activity-7370731374208524288-kMx6

It's an attempt to whitewash Israeli Government actions in the region.

Unfortunately there are a lot of low information, uneducated (a few with genuine grievances about being "left behind") people who are unaware that they are being exploited and others who are happy that they can stick 2 fingers up to political correctness and openly display their racism.

That's why there has seemingly been an increase in certain Political parties and right leaning papers stoking up hatred.

Thankfully, most intelligent people noticed how inorganic it has been.

US marketing companies are helping to rebrand the genocide in Gaza | Arwa Mahdawi

Reports say PR teams are busy rewriting history in real time – not that the American media needs the help

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/26/gaza-us-marketing-companies

RedTagAlan · 01/06/2026 04:26

BelleHathor · 01/06/2026 01:53

It's all part of a well funded co-ordinated plan to spread anti Muslim hate in the West. A poll by the Firm Stagwell (hired by the Israeli government) found that the best way to mend Israel's reputation in the West was to increase the fear of Muslims:

"Per Drop Site, the report from Penn’s firm apparently assessed that Israel has a good chance of making people forget about that nasty little genocide business if they stoke fear of “Radical Islam” and “Jihadism”. “Especially once the situation in Gaza is resolved, the room for growth in all countries [when it comes to Israel’s image] is very significant,” the report concludes. If you make people scared that babies are terrorists then they won’t mind when you murder them, basically.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/26/gaza-us-marketing-companies

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/leaked-israel-reputation-survey-research-mark-penn-stagwell

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zoescamanmarketing-agency-stagwell-cut-a-deal-with-activity-7370731374208524288-kMx6

It's an attempt to whitewash Israeli Government actions in the region.

Unfortunately there are a lot of low information, uneducated (a few with genuine grievances about being "left behind") people who are unaware that they are being exploited and others who are happy that they can stick 2 fingers up to political correctness and openly display their racism.

That's why there has seemingly been an increase in certain Political parties and right leaning papers stoking up hatred.

Thankfully, most intelligent people noticed how inorganic it has been.

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I think that in general, no matter the subject, people who have chosen to believe propaganda style information/disinformation are the folk most likely to derail discussions and deflect. And throw in logical fallacies.

Because propaganda, as we know, is rarely built on good factual foundations.

Re this thread, from what I have seen on @JadeHare is working from a very solid foundation of fact and experience.

Bananarep · 01/06/2026 04:53

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Ellen2shoes · 01/06/2026 06:44

BelleHathor · 01/06/2026 01:53

It's all part of a well funded co-ordinated plan to spread anti Muslim hate in the West. A poll by the Firm Stagwell (hired by the Israeli government) found that the best way to mend Israel's reputation in the West was to increase the fear of Muslims:

"Per Drop Site, the report from Penn’s firm apparently assessed that Israel has a good chance of making people forget about that nasty little genocide business if they stoke fear of “Radical Islam” and “Jihadism”. “Especially once the situation in Gaza is resolved, the room for growth in all countries [when it comes to Israel’s image] is very significant,” the report concludes. If you make people scared that babies are terrorists then they won’t mind when you murder them, basically.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/26/gaza-us-marketing-companies

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/leaked-israel-reputation-survey-research-mark-penn-stagwell

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zoescamanmarketing-agency-stagwell-cut-a-deal-with-activity-7370731374208524288-kMx6

It's an attempt to whitewash Israeli Government actions in the region.

Unfortunately there are a lot of low information, uneducated (a few with genuine grievances about being "left behind") people who are unaware that they are being exploited and others who are happy that they can stick 2 fingers up to political correctness and openly display their racism.

That's why there has seemingly been an increase in certain Political parties and right leaning papers stoking up hatred.

Thankfully, most intelligent people noticed how inorganic it has been.

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Thank you for posting this - the links were really informative and the points exemplified so obviously by posters on here!

JadeHare · 01/06/2026 06:53

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Fine. And maybe think about how Israel are trying to get rid of the Palestinians from Gaza and help themselves to Lebanon too. However, I’m sure it won’t bother you.

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Bananarep · 01/06/2026 07:18

JadeHare · 01/06/2026 06:53

Fine. And maybe think about how Israel are trying to get rid of the Palestinians from Gaza and help themselves to Lebanon too. However, I’m sure it won’t bother you.

I do not want to see innocents suffer - no reasonable person does.

But the origins of Tel Aviv’s determination to create a buffer zone between Israel and those who
would wish it harm, is understandable even if we don’t agree with it.

Hamas lit the fuse, when they sought to hide amongst civilians with their kidnapped victims, following October 23. They brought the war home.

It turns out that Israelis are better at killing terrorists than the other way round. Thankfully for us.

Ellen2shoes · 01/06/2026 07:23

Now you are rebranding ethnic cleansing as ‘killing terrorists’. More of the same

JadeHare · 01/06/2026 07:33

Ellen2shoes · 01/06/2026 07:23

Now you are rebranding ethnic cleansing as ‘killing terrorists’. More of the same

Yes. All those children, all those medics, all those journalists. Terrorists, every single one of them. But hey ho, pursue with our safety buffer zone we will. Hope the world doesn’t notice and call us out on our ethnic cleansing because we need to feel safe, and fuck the Palestinians and Lebonese.

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Bananarep · 01/06/2026 07:34

Ellen2shoes · 01/06/2026 07:23

Now you are rebranding ethnic cleansing as ‘killing terrorists’. More of the same

At least have the courage to post a reply to mine.

Otherwise, try re-reading what I wrote.

Bananarep · 01/06/2026 07:35

JadeHare · 01/06/2026 07:33

Yes. All those children, all those medics, all those journalists. Terrorists, every single one of them. But hey ho, pursue with our safety buffer zone we will. Hope the world doesn’t notice and call us out on our ethnic cleansing because we need to feel safe, and fuck the Palestinians and Lebonese.

Lebanese.

Ellen2shoes · 01/06/2026 07:35

You understood the reply was to you so why quibble? And why would I want to reread your posts.

Bananarep · 01/06/2026 08:06

The US could soften its push for a ceasefire in Lebanon as Israel ramps up its ground invasion and looks for Washington’s approval to conduct large-scale strikes in the country, sources have said.

The US has urged Israel against striking Beirut for several weeks as it moves toward de-escalation, with Marco Rubio speaking with Lebanese President Joseph Aoun and Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the weekend on a potential ceasefire deal between the countries.

But Axios has reported that this position could soften. A US official said: “The US does not expect Israel to absorb ongoing attacks on its civilians by a terrorist organisation.”

A senior Lebanese official said neither Hezbollah nor Israel want a ceasefire and that Mr Trump has not taken firm action to stop Mr Netanyahu from escalating.

Source: DT

Mantanora · 01/06/2026 08:19

"It turns out that Israelis are better at killing terrorists than the other way round. Thankfully for us."??

Last time I checked Hamas and Hezbollah are still very much active. Civilians, women and children, absolutely. I would even say probably the best in the world.

DrPrunesqualer · 01/06/2026 11:35

‘.Israeli plan to extend control in Gaza provokes German concern
Comments mark a shift in Berlin’s stance towards one of its key allies, of which it has long been a strong supporter.

By Daniel Khalili-Tari and Reuters
Published On 29 May 202629 May 2026

The German government has expressed concern over Israeli plans to extend its military control of Gaza.

A spokesperson for the German Foreign Office said on Friday that Berlin opposes any permanent division of Gaza.
The comment came in response to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s order to the Israeli military to increase control in the enclave to 70 percent.

The expansion of Israeli occupation raises questions over the durability of the nominal “ceasefire” brokered by the United States and regional countries, including Qatar and Turkiye, in October.

That deal required the Israeli military to pull back so it controlled about half of Gaza. However, it has steadily expanded control as it continues to fight Hamas, and fears are growing of a return to full-scale war.

An expansion of Israeli control would also worsen conditions for Gaza’s 2.3 million people already squeezed into about 35 percent of the small enclave.

Germany is one of Israel’s closest allies and its second-largest weapons supplier after the US.

However, in recent months Berlin has begun criticising some Israeli actions, including its annexation of more territory in the occupied West Bank, and the implementation of the death penalty solely for Palestinians.

Fears of annexation
Speaking on Thursday, Netanyahu suggested Israel might even seize more than 70 percent of Gaza.
“We were at 50, we moved to 60,” Netanyahu said as he explained that he has now ordered the military to increase control to 70 percent.
Let’s start with that,” he said

The steady expansion of Israeli control since, in violation of the terms of the ceasefire, has raised Palestinian fears that Israel aims to permanently annex large parts of the enclave.

Some Israeli officials have suggested they hope to permanently expel Palestinians.
Earlier this week, Defence Minister Israel Katz said efforts were underway to encourage “voluntary emigration”.

On Friday, Ismail al-Thawabta, head of the Hamas-run Gaza government media office, said “any attempt to impose a new reality of occupation in Gaza is null and illegitimate,” adding that Netanyahu’s statement “represents a dangerous escalation”.

Critics argue that the term “voluntary” is a euphemism, following nearly three years of genocide when most of Gaza’s infrastructure has been destroyed, leaving the territory uninhabitable.

In a report published last month, both the United Nations and European Union said Israel’s war on Gaza has had a “catastrophic impact on human development”. The report estimated that more than $70bn was needed over the next decade for recovery and reconstruction.’
report Al Jazeera

I wonder if this will be part of the discussions on further land grabs in Lebanon

How many times has Israel violated the Gaza ceasefire? Here are the numbers

How many times has Israel violated the Gaza ceasefire? Here are the numbers

Since the ceasefire took effect, Israeli attacks have killed at least 922 Palestinians and injured 2,786.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/11/how-many-times-has-israel-violated-the-gaza-ceasefire-here-are-the-numbers

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Deflection. Don’t look there. Look here.

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