Is the penny finally starting to drop about anti semitism and hate marches?

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/04/starmer-c al l-society-response-rising-antisemitism

I think we are now seeing the cumulative impact of the anti senitism that has built up over the last 3 years where there has been a permissive environment with politicians hesitant to intervene in events in the streets that have incubated anti Jew sentiment.

All political parties apart from the hate apologist Greens are now waking up to the fact we need better policing and perhaps legislation. I for one will acting a vote for a party that recognises hate marches for what they are and also willing to tackle the vile posts appearing on social media (and Labour have reacted too late too little). Enough is enough for a Jewish community that lives in perpetual fear.

Events on the street have not incubated antisemitism. Events in Gaza and Lebanon and Iran and the West Bank and bombed hospitals and murdered journalists and starved families have incubated fury at whoever is to blame.

We don’t need to give them a title of Jew/ Antijew. It’s greedy arrogant murderers versus decent respectable men women and children.

Now here’s a test for people who claim that they never see antisemitism, just ‘reasonable criticism of Israel’.

.... and around and around we go...

Again, do I need to remind people that Jewish people in the UK are not responsible for events in Gaza or elsewhere and shouldn't be made to feel intimidated here? Which they are telling you - they do feel intimidated by the fact that not all marches/participants are peaceful.

And the marches that have been going on for so long now have achieved literally nothing for Palestinian people so it's causing unrest in UK society for nothing.

Are Israeli flags a bad idea at the protests to support British Jews ?
Does this just solidify the connection for people between the acts of the Israeli government and British Jews?

Here we go again. How are the Jews in the UK responsible for what’s happening in Gaza and Lebanon?

Who gives a shit what connections are made by antisemites.

So you think it is appropriate to fly multiple Israeli flags at an event to support British Jews.

That's the thing you're choosing to focus on - that the crowd had Israeli and Union Jack flags?

Not that the rally was organised in response to a marked increase in antisemitic hate crimes and violence in the UK?

Maybe take some time to reflect on the words of 91-year-old Lionel Blumenthal, who travelled from Golders Green to show solidarity against antisemitism:

“I’m angry and horrified, this is not the country I grew up in, I no longer feel safe,” said Blumenthal, who said the mood in his north London area has been one of anger, worry and uncertainty over the future. “It means I have to be that much more cautious than I was before, I can’t take for granted my security, my safety.”

He added: “I think it’s important that all sections of the British community and particularly of the politicians should come together and denounce antisemitism.”

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/may/10/thousands-attend-rally-against-antisemitism-outside-downing-street

Is it ok to be antisemitic against a Jew who carries an Israeli flag? I'm a bit confused.

@Twiglets1
Well yes that was what I was focusing on because that's what I asked you????

I applaud the rally and the sentiments behind it to stop the rise of violence and hate against British Jews .
So why fly the Israeli flag?

That seems to be the implication.

Ugh ... this board. Always looking for a way to blame Jews for the antisemitism they suffer.

There's no implication @Twiglets1 , I just asked a question.

"incubated fury at whoever is to blame"

So why take it out on Jewish men, women and children in the UK, who are clearly NOT to blame! Because old fashioned antisemitism! Since no-one in the UK is to blame.

That war crimes have been committed in Yemen, Sudan and Ukraine is not contentious. If someone was to dismiss the crimes that have taken place there - I would engage in a discussion about it.

It is a concern that our government sells arms to Saudi Arabia. This has been through legal challenges and at present, it seems UK is allowed to continue to sell Saudi Arabia weapons. Of course this is concerning, but again - I can’t see people arguing otherwise.

We are at a stage that most people will agree that war crimes have been committed by both sides of the war in Gaza. Now that Gaza has been flattened, its infrastructure obliterated and a non-significant proportion of it’s population killed, it hardly seems contentious at all now. After 2 years that is. I can remember seeing pictures of dead children, women cradling bodies in shrouds and coming onto this board with people calling those raising concerns useful idiots, that we were being taken in by Pallywood etc etc

I hope I have remained civil in my interactions with others, but it has not always been reciprocated. I don’t find your post particularly funny- but you seem to.

There is NO excuse for antisemitism - Jewish people are in NO way responsible for what has happened in Israel.

But please don’t dismiss concerns that have been raised as being simply down to antisemitism.

I am happy to see our government look at the ongoing marches. I would support them in adequately prosecuting hate speech and banning threatening language too. I have said as much above.

The 'funny' comment was because you said you were 'so concerned', yet on checking you had precisely 0 posts expressing concern, yet an uncountable number on "Gaza'. Typical really. If you had expressed any interest in other conflicts, your comments would be there to see. 🙄

I don't dismiss concerns as antisemitism. There is so much antisemitism, there is no need to invent any, its real, it's widespread in the UK and attacks on Jewish people in the UK have risen, and are totally unacceptable.

So many bald faced liars here.

You can fly any flag of any country and not be attacked in the UK. Even countries that do dreadful things... China, Yemen, Syria... but people will pretend flying the flag of Israel is a problem.

Get a grip. It isn't. You're just making excuses for yourself!

You can’t rely on my posts on Mumsnet to know what’s on my mind, what I read about etc.

You can choose to think that me posting here is down to antisemitism rather than take on board what I have posted above. I don’t think I nor others will change people’s minds about that. I can also understand that when there is so much antisemitism that it is becomes the lens through which to view things. And no, I am not saying you are imaging antisemitism - it is real, but not always the cause.

I remember listening about work being done on interfaith dialogue. We can ban marches and slogans, but that’s not going to change opinions about what is happening without taking on board people’s concerns - on all sides.

"You can’t rely on my posts on Mumsnet to know what’s on my mind, what I read about etc."

Its 💯 what you post about, but....Gaza.

You might 'think' about other things, but not deem them important enough to discuss though, hence, not post about them. That's up to you.

Posters here can only comment on what you post here not what your unspoken thoughts are 🙄 naturally 😉

Why are you using the word liar?

Of course you can fly any flag you want.
I am presuming by your tone you support this flag flying (you can correct me if I'm wrong).

It is slightly disingenuous however to support the flag been flown at rallies and therefore show your support to the country and then at the same time argue British Jews have nothing to do with Israel.

Not saying British Jews have "nothing to do with Israel".

If I moved to another country or was born in another country but to British parents & with British family, would I have "nothing to do" with Britain?

The point is that British Jews have nothing to do with the war in Gaza.

Flying the Israeli flag indicates supporting the country currently carrying out these actions in Gaza and the West Bank .

In your mind.

It is a natural flag to fly to show solidarity with Jewish people. And the combination of Israeli and Union Jack flags - which is what there was at this protest against antisemitism - shows solidarity between Jewish people and British people.

I haven't noticed you complaining about people flying Palestinian flags. Or you suggesting that flying the Palestinian flag indicates support for Hamas who are the Palestinian leaders in Gaza.

Are people flying a Palestinian flag always in support of what Hamas does in Gaza too?