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Conflict in the Middle East

Is the penny finally starting to drop about anti semitism and hate marches?

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mids2019 · 05/05/2026 06:30

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/04/starmer-c al l-society-response-rising-antisemitism

I think we are now seeing the cumulative impact of the anti senitism that has built up over the last 3 years where there has been a permissive environment with politicians hesitant to intervene in events in the streets that have incubated anti Jew sentiment.

All political parties apart from the hate apologist Greens are now waking up to the fact we need better policing and perhaps legislation. I for one will acting a vote for a party that recognises hate marches for what they are and also willing to tackle the vile posts appearing on social media (and Labour have reacted too late too little). Enough is enough for a Jewish community that lives in perpetual fear.

‘A test of our values’: Starmer to call for whole-society response to rising antisemitism

PM will say responsibility to stand with Jewish communities lies with ‘every one of us’ at event on Tuesday

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/04/starmer-call-society-response-rising-antisemitism

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Jillybox · 10/05/2026 20:45

This thread is madness.

These people aren't criticising Israel. They're demonising Israel. They're obsessing, 24 hours a day, every weekend of their lives with the idea that if only Israel is destroyed then the world will he hunky dory.

I live in London.

These mobs are hugely intimidating, and I'm not Jewish.

They're aggressive, they harass people, they ate nothing whatsoever like the many peaceful marches I've attended.

People brandish Iranian regime flags, isis flags, hamas headbands. There's swastikas. There's nazi hand gestures.

They scream at Jewish people that they're genocide lovers and baby killers. Jewish places are in danger, Jewish kids being rammed off the road by cars, swastikas painted on Jewish businesses, terror attacks being thwarted, stabbings, hate crimes off the charts.

They're not showing signs or chants asking for peace, they're actually calling for violence and most of these people clearly support terrorism.

They're directing their hate at Israel, but let's not kid ourselves, the words, themes, accusations are as old as time.

The sheer cognitive dissonance of some in pretending this movement isn't antisemitic.

It is. And I'm so embarrassed that the people of my country are behaving like this.

Hallowedturf · 10/05/2026 20:46

dairydebris · 10/05/2026 20:38

But we do sell a lot of arms to KSA, who are up their their nuts in Yemen, and yet the resultant humanitarian catastrophe gets almost no airtime on here despite being in the ME...

Quite so.

I’m calling BS on the fake Gaza empathy.

DoraTheExplorer9 · 10/05/2026 23:35

Islandsofsand · 10/05/2026 19:53

Of course their suffering is terrible too! Is anyone trying to say it isn’t or that it doesn’t count?

I am also concerned about what is happening in Sudan, Ukraine, Iran and Lebanon.

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No one cares enough to gather in the tens or hundreds of thousands and block off streets in central London on an almost weekly basis.
No Jews, no news.

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 00:09

Islandsofsand · 10/05/2026 19:53

Of course their suffering is terrible too! Is anyone trying to say it isn’t or that it doesn’t count?

I am also concerned about what is happening in Sudan, Ukraine, Iran and Lebanon.

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I can see you are, by precisely 0 other posts on those topics 😂

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 00:10

Jillybox · 10/05/2026 20:45

This thread is madness.

These people aren't criticising Israel. They're demonising Israel. They're obsessing, 24 hours a day, every weekend of their lives with the idea that if only Israel is destroyed then the world will he hunky dory.

I live in London.

These mobs are hugely intimidating, and I'm not Jewish.

They're aggressive, they harass people, they ate nothing whatsoever like the many peaceful marches I've attended.

People brandish Iranian regime flags, isis flags, hamas headbands. There's swastikas. There's nazi hand gestures.

They scream at Jewish people that they're genocide lovers and baby killers. Jewish places are in danger, Jewish kids being rammed off the road by cars, swastikas painted on Jewish businesses, terror attacks being thwarted, stabbings, hate crimes off the charts.

They're not showing signs or chants asking for peace, they're actually calling for violence and most of these people clearly support terrorism.

They're directing their hate at Israel, but let's not kid ourselves, the words, themes, accusations are as old as time.

The sheer cognitive dissonance of some in pretending this movement isn't antisemitic.

It is. And I'm so embarrassed that the people of my country are behaving like this.

Exactly.

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:35

ShockingBritain · 10/05/2026 10:14

You actually believe the words of ZP, tit whisperer who also lied about working for a charity. He runs a party where antisemitism is rife with 2 candidates being arrested for antisemitism just in the last week. Who believes what he says!

Yes I do. You do know that ZP is a Jew right?
Have you seen the interview with Trevor Phillips? The one where TP was both Anti Semitic and Islamophobic (TP was sacked from the Labour party for being an Islamophobe). Do you only care about anti semitism if it is someone whose views you approve of? Are you not upset by Islamophobia or is it just Jews that you feel have the right values who deserve sympathy?
Why don't you watch the interview first before making foolish comments.

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 08:36

dairydebris · 10/05/2026 20:38

But we do sell a lot of arms to KSA, who are up their their nuts in Yemen, and yet the resultant humanitarian catastrophe gets almost no airtime on here despite being in the ME...

Does anyone actually discuss that at all. Any threads

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 08:39

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:35

Yes I do. You do know that ZP is a Jew right?
Have you seen the interview with Trevor Phillips? The one where TP was both Anti Semitic and Islamophobic (TP was sacked from the Labour party for being an Islamophobe). Do you only care about anti semitism if it is someone whose views you approve of? Are you not upset by Islamophobia or is it just Jews that you feel have the right values who deserve sympathy?
Why don't you watch the interview first before making foolish comments.

Can you link the video you are talking about so I can watch it? Which foolish comments have I made about the tit whisperer?

Of course I know ZP is Jewish. It's not the gotcha you think it is.

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:40

DoraTheExplorer9 · 10/05/2026 02:06

As a Jewish person let me be clear . Being Jewish doesn’t mean you can’t be a antisemite. The fact that there are Jews on a march doesn’t mean it’s not a hate march. Polanski is a hateful individual who mentioned the perception of unsafety. Didn’t take long for that to be disproven but then poor Zack was traumatised by the sight of the terrorist being forced to drop the knife. He didnt seem traumatised by an elderly Jewish man being stabbed in the neck.
the fact that a Jewish person was told by police to stay away from a march so he doesn’t “antagonise” and was threatened with arrest- there’s your proof of so called peace marches.
the fact that Israel gets so much attention when there’s so many other causes to protest for- that’s antisemitism cloaked in anti Zionism

That is your opinion, not fact. Others can disagree. People have different perceptions, as you say. Why don't you watch the interview with Trevor Philips, as I said to the other poster? Why don't you watch the way ZP was subjected to anti semitism and the way TP responded when ZP, a Jewish man, described his personal experience?

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 08:42

"You actually believe the words of ZP, tit whisperer who also lied about working for a charity. He runs a party where antisemitism is rife with 2 candidates being arrested for antisemitism just in the last week. Who believes what he says!:

This is my post that you replied to. Which of these comments is foolish? Is it 'who believes what he says?' obviously some people believe him, you do 🙄

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:42

ShockingBritain · 10/05/2026 10:41

Tommy Robinson hate marches and the weekly hate marches allegedly for 'Palestine' are both hate spreading and 2 cheeks of the same ass.

That's your opinion. Others have a different opinion and want to march to protest against the Genocide that Israel are committing in Gaza.

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 08:46

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:42

That's your opinion. Others have a different opinion and want to march to protest against the Genocide that Israel are committing in Gaza.

It's the opinion of a growing number of people, hence the calls to ban or make the marches static, that's both Tommy Robinson marches and Gaza hate marches. Two cheeks of the same ass.

Police can more easily spot the hate filled and deal with them, leaving people who don't use hatred to stand peacefully.

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2026 08:52

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 08:39

Can you link the video you are talking about so I can watch it? Which foolish comments have I made about the tit whisperer?

Of course I know ZP is Jewish. It's not the gotcha you think it is.

Who doesn't know ZP is Jewish given how often that is repeated as a pathetic attempt at a "gotcha" by those who somehow think people are never racist or antisemitic against their own race/religion/culture??

I've read it a hundred times on MN alone over the last few days - and yes, I already knew.

inamarina · 11/05/2026 09:15

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2026 08:52

Who doesn't know ZP is Jewish given how often that is repeated as a pathetic attempt at a "gotcha" by those who somehow think people are never racist or antisemitic against their own race/religion/culture??

I've read it a hundred times on MN alone over the last few days - and yes, I already knew.

This. It’s so tiresome.
I assume the Trevor Phillips
interview PP mentioned is the one on Sky News, where he was talking about the pro-Palestine marches and how many Jews in London perceived them as hate marches.
Polanski said he didn’t feel intimidated by them, to which Phillips replied: 'But you’re not all Jews'. That’s obviously accurate, even though Polanski attempted to frame it as ‘why are you erasing my Jewish identity?’

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FloralDeerPattern · 11/05/2026 09:40

SunnyAfternoonToday · 10/05/2026 18:17

Like the ones where people wave Israeli and Lion and sun flags and stab people and throw molotov cocktails?
There have been no molotov cocktails or stabbings at any protests where Israeli and Iranian flags are flown. However, there have been stabbings of Jewish people going about their daily business, as I am sure you are aware @FloralDeerPattern

When the media tells me antisemitism is on the rise, I think the call is coming from within the house
What do you mean by this? Jewish people are making up the antisemitic attacks? It sounds remarkably like victim blaming @Eskarina1 and there is ample evidence of the exponential rise in anti semitism suffered by British Jews.

There have been no molotov cocktails or stabbings at any protests where Israeli and Iranian flags are flown.

Did you not see it in the headlines when it happened? Oh wait it didn't make headline news, wrong flag flyers involved.

DoraTheExplorer9 · 11/05/2026 09:57

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:40

That is your opinion, not fact. Others can disagree. People have different perceptions, as you say. Why don't you watch the interview with Trevor Philips, as I said to the other poster? Why don't you watch the way ZP was subjected to anti semitism and the way TP responded when ZP, a Jewish man, described his personal experience?

Wow! I think it’s only a Jew that would be told it’s their opinion if there is antisemitism or not. And because ZP was subjected to it then therefore no one else is??
does your 3 year old have to practice hiding in the toilet and staying silent when the intruder alarm goes off??

inamarina · 11/05/2026 10:09

rainingsnoring · 11/05/2026 08:40

That is your opinion, not fact. Others can disagree. People have different perceptions, as you say. Why don't you watch the interview with Trevor Philips, as I said to the other poster? Why don't you watch the way ZP was subjected to anti semitism and the way TP responded when ZP, a Jewish man, described his personal experience?

Really ironic how you tell a Jewish poster 'that’s your opinion, not fact', but when Trevor Phillips said the same to Zack Polanski it was apparently “antisemitic”.
Or how exactly was Polanski subjected to antisemitism in that interview?

Jillybox · 11/05/2026 10:13

What makes the "but Zack Polanski is Jewish so the Green Party can't be antisemitic" particularly weak is that Zack Polanski himself was heavily campaigning back in 2020 for the Greens to sort out their antisemitism problem. He ran a motion and campaign for them to adopt the IHRA definition so he knew a few years ago what antisemitism is.

He seemed to abruptly forget once he had a nice career opportunity!

noblegiraffe · 11/05/2026 10:13

Zack Polanski is a lying grifter who says whatever he feels he needs to say at any given time to best benefit himself. He lied about being able to hypnotise women to make their breasts bigger. He then lied and said he didn’t really mean it and was caught out in that lie by an interview where he said he did mean it. He lied and said he was a member of the hyponotherapy council. He lied and said he was a spokesperson for the Red Cross. He lied and said he worked at the Ministry of Justice (and then pretended that’s not what he really meant).

So given that a lot of his voters are on those marches, of course he is going to say that they are fine regardless of whether that’s true or not because it’s to his benefit to play to his voters. Holding up his opinion as any sort of authority on anything is just laughable and anyone who trusts him (or votes for him) has to be pretty gullible if they think Zak is out for anyone other than Zak.

None of that means that Zak can’t experience antisemitism, but I find it pretty astonishing how some people can pinpoint exactly what was objectionable about that caricature while being apparently completely oblivious to antisemitism demonstrated by people on ‘their’ side.

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2026 10:25

inamarina · 11/05/2026 09:15

This. It’s so tiresome.
I assume the Trevor Phillips
interview PP mentioned is the one on Sky News, where he was talking about the pro-Palestine marches and how many Jews in London perceived them as hate marches.
Polanski said he didn’t feel intimidated by them, to which Phillips replied: 'But you’re not all Jews'. That’s obviously accurate, even though Polanski attempted to frame it as ‘why are you erasing my Jewish identity?’

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7VkfYJgLljE&ra=m

Clearly Polanski isn't all Jews he is his own person and speaks for himself.

He's such a liar and has been caught out lying so many times. He has a strong sense of identity with being a grifter and nothing else.

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 11:50

noblegiraffe · 11/05/2026 10:32

I googled Molotov cocktails at protests and found a guy imprisoned on two counts of murder a couple of days ago for throwing Molotov cocktails at Jews who were protesting in support of the hostages. That was in the US. Horrendous. Is that the one that was meant?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260507-egyptian-man-pleads-guilty-to-deadly-us-fire-attack-on-jewish-protest

That's awful. Thankfully, he's in prison.

There's an increase in antisemitism in the UK and also an increase in attacks on Jewish people, which needs urgent action. I believe clamping down on hate speech at marches, and online will help.

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 16:37

inamarina · 11/05/2026 09:15

This. It’s so tiresome.
I assume the Trevor Phillips
interview PP mentioned is the one on Sky News, where he was talking about the pro-Palestine marches and how many Jews in London perceived them as hate marches.
Polanski said he didn’t feel intimidated by them, to which Phillips replied: 'But you’re not all Jews'. That’s obviously accurate, even though Polanski attempted to frame it as ‘why are you erasing my Jewish identity?’

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7VkfYJgLljE&ra=m

I've watched it. ZP is even worse than I thought he was. Because he doesn't feel unsafe then no-one should. Because he thinks the marches aren't hate marches then no-one should. Seems to think all Jewish people should think as he does. Most unusual.

Jillybox · 11/05/2026 16:53

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 16:37

I've watched it. ZP is even worse than I thought he was. Because he doesn't feel unsafe then no-one should. Because he thinks the marches aren't hate marches then no-one should. Seems to think all Jewish people should think as he does. Most unusual.

I recall with great clarity being a green party member 5 years ago and Polanski was very outspoken on antisemitism. He had a blog (still online) campaigning for the IHRA definition to be adopted.

I think he understands with great clarity that the mob he's leading is very threatening to Jewish people, and I think he's just an opportunist who's decided to sell out Jewish people in exchange for a job.

In perspective before this, he was a failed actor, failed singer, hospitality worker and posed as a ridiculous hypnotist. I think it's obvious he wanted fame and fortune but had little to offer and he's found a route to a well paid career, public adoration and fame.

Sadly, I think he's sold his soul by providing cover to what's pretty obviously a hate movement against his own. He knows perfectly what why Jewish people feel threatened and afraid.

He's one of life's chancers.

ShockingBritain · 11/05/2026 18:27

Jillybox · 11/05/2026 16:53

I recall with great clarity being a green party member 5 years ago and Polanski was very outspoken on antisemitism. He had a blog (still online) campaigning for the IHRA definition to be adopted.

I think he understands with great clarity that the mob he's leading is very threatening to Jewish people, and I think he's just an opportunist who's decided to sell out Jewish people in exchange for a job.

In perspective before this, he was a failed actor, failed singer, hospitality worker and posed as a ridiculous hypnotist. I think it's obvious he wanted fame and fortune but had little to offer and he's found a route to a well paid career, public adoration and fame.

Sadly, I think he's sold his soul by providing cover to what's pretty obviously a hate movement against his own. He knows perfectly what why Jewish people feel threatened and afraid.

He's one of life's chancers.

That's absolutely dreadful.