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Conflict in the Middle East

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 10:19

As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

  • A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
  • The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
  • The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
  • The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
  • The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
  • These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
  • The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

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BelleHathor · 24/05/2026 19:12

I don’t trust Trump at all, 60 days perfectly aligns with the World Cup Final (19th July 2026) which is being hosted in America and Mexico.

It's already looking to be one of the worst World Cups due to numerous reasons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9q34pxv79eo

The World Cup trophy

2026 World Cup: Empty rooms & Fifa cancellations - US hotels fear washout

The 2026 Fifa World Cup was supposed to provide a tourism boom for the United States, but now the fear is that may never materialise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9q34pxv79eo

TopPocketFind · 24/05/2026 21:00

Issue with inviting countries to join the Abraham Accords is that several of those countries do not recognise Israel.

https://www.axios.com/2026/05/24/trump-iran-war-israel-muslim-countries-abraham-accords

Islandsofsand · 24/05/2026 21:36

TopPocketFind · 24/05/2026 21:00

Issue with inviting countries to join the Abraham Accords is that several of those countries do not recognise Israel.

https://www.axios.com/2026/05/24/trump-iran-war-israel-muslim-countries-abraham-accords

Will Saudi Arabia join given what’s happening in the West Bank? The had been clear on need for a 2SS

BelleHathor · 24/05/2026 21:59

It's going to take decades for any of the non Abrahamic Accords countries to join (if ever). After the destruction and death wrought (and livestreamed) on the Palestinians, the Lebanese and others in the region the sentiment from their citizens is over my dead body with some current signatories even questioning their membership.

This is from last year https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/04/the-abraham-accords-after-gaza-a-change-of-context and the situation is far worse now, remember UAE and Bahrain were hit the hardest by Iran.

The Abraham Accords After Gaza: A Change of Context

The Arab-Israeli agreements have largely survived the war, but their future will depend on broader dynamics in the Middle East and beyond.

https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/04/the-abraham-accords-after-gaza-a-change-of-context

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2026 22:11

Twiglets1 · 24/05/2026 13:52

One person's opinion.

I could find another analyst saying something different, if I could be bothered.

You think it's pointless doing a deep dive into differing opinions? Why did you start this thread? Did you only expect people who believe in Trumpism to comment?

The reality is that Trump's Operation Epic Fury is Trump's Operation Epic Disaster for normal, everyday people across the globe. Lives and livelihoods lost. Life more difficult for most with only Trump and Trump's mates benefitting.

You can moan all you want about people talking about Trump's monumental failure and it's repurcussionsin Iran, @Twiglets1. It doesn't change anything.

Not for your better or my better or the better of everyday Americans or Iranians

Twiglets1 · 25/05/2026 06:19

Trump’s suggestion that Iran could join the Accords was obviously tongue in cheek, surprised to see some are taking it seriously.

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Twiglets1 · 25/05/2026 06:40

As for the other ME countries that currently aren’t in the Accords, it is likely that Trump’s suggestion was mainly aimed at Saudi Arabia. They have expressed willingness to normalise relations with Israel in the past, but relations have been harmed by the war.

According to Axios, Israeli & US officials think that Riyadh will not take any steps towards this

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Twiglets1 · 25/05/2026 06:46

… ahead of Israel’s elections planned for September and before it sees which government is sworn in.

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TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 10:05

Trump mentioned the Abraham Accords and therefore it is being discussed.

Iran's reply to a possible deal

Iran's Foreign Ministry: “The fact that we have reached a conclusion on a large portion of the topics under discussion is correct.

“However, to say that this means the signing of an agreement is imminent. No one can make such a claim.

“Policymaking and decision-making in the US are suffering from a kind of institutionalized vacillation.

“The repeated changes in positions — within a matter of hours you are faced with different, often contradictory and conflicting viewpoints.

“This disrupts the process of any negotiation.”

Iran’s Foreign Ministry: “Ceasefire means a ceasefire on all fronts. Lebanon is part and parcel of all the negotiations and agreements.

“Turkey, as a neighbouring country, have contributed very valuable efforts and we extend all thanks and appreciation to them, to our brothers in Turkey.”

https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3mmnybeqiq22u

Twiglets1 · 25/05/2026 10:15

Both sides seem to be getting close to a partial agreement, one that will enable the S of H to reopen, while more tricky subjects to be agreed after further negotiations.

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TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 10:18

Rubio is still saying a deal could materialise "today" but not to read too much into it

Oil prices plunged and Asian shares rose earlier in the day amid optimism

TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 11:53

Trumps has now posted that an Iran deal will either be 'great and meaningful' or there will 'be no deal' at all,

How, he hasn't said.

Rubio must be hoping his boss keeps quiet for a while.

TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 12:52

Washington Post

Key terms of Trump’s plan

  • 60-day ceasefire extension while a final peace deal is negotiated

  • Iran reopens the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days and clears mines

  • US lifts its naval blockade of Iranian ports

  • US releases $12 billion in frozen Iranian assets held in Qatar - Iran's strict precondition for signing.

  • Iran commits at a high level not to pursue nuclear weapons. Full nuclear negotiations deferred to next phase.

No final agreement signed yet.

RedTagAlan · 25/05/2026 12:57

TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 12:52

Washington Post

Key terms of Trump’s plan

  • 60-day ceasefire extension while a final peace deal is negotiated

  • Iran reopens the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days and clears mines

  • US lifts its naval blockade of Iranian ports

  • US releases $12 billion in frozen Iranian assets held in Qatar - Iran's strict precondition for signing.

  • Iran commits at a high level not to pursue nuclear weapons. Full nuclear negotiations deferred to next phase.

No final agreement signed yet.

So when Obama unfroze Iranian assets, Trump said he was paying them.

But this 12 billion will be different right ?

TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 14:19

He is doubling down on his TS about wanting countries to join the Abraham Accords. He even suggests it should be mandatory.

RedTagAlan · 25/05/2026 14:45

TopPocketFind · 25/05/2026 14:19

He is doubling down on his TS about wanting countries to join the Abraham Accords. He even suggests it should be mandatory.

And a headline just now on the CNN feed :

Iran’s foreign minister to skip UN meet in New York over "visa-related issue"

Iran propaganda or a factual story ? No idea. There is this at the end of the report:

"Asked about a potential Araghchi visit to New York last week, the US State Department told CNN that “all visa applications are adjudicated on a case-by-case basis in accordance with the requirements of the Immigration and Nationality Act and other applicable laws.”
It added that visa records are confidential and details of individual visa cases cannot be discussed."

So if it is Iranian Propaganda, really the US state dpt should have seen it coming and taken steps to make sure Iran could not use it as propaganda.

Twiglets1 · 25/05/2026 14:56

RedTagAlan · 25/05/2026 14:45

And a headline just now on the CNN feed :

Iran’s foreign minister to skip UN meet in New York over "visa-related issue"

Iran propaganda or a factual story ? No idea. There is this at the end of the report:

"Asked about a potential Araghchi visit to New York last week, the US State Department told CNN that “all visa applications are adjudicated on a case-by-case basis in accordance with the requirements of the Immigration and Nationality Act and other applicable laws.”
It added that visa records are confidential and details of individual visa cases cannot be discussed."

So if it is Iranian Propaganda, really the US state dpt should have seen it coming and taken steps to make sure Iran could not use it as propaganda.

How is it propaganda for Iran if their foreign minister is unable to participate in a China-initiated meeting in New York?

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/world/live-news/iran-war-us-peace-deal

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Stirabout · 26/05/2026 04:05

Referring to the Arab countries that are not yet part of the Accords
Trump wrote:
After all the work done by the United States to try and pull this very complex puzzle together, it should be mandatory that all of these countries, at a minimum, simultaneously, sign on to the Abraham Accords.”

🤣 He’s saying they should sign the Accords because the US has done so much work to get a peace deal together
Hello….!!

Axios had earlier reported that his request was met with silence during the phone calls on Saturday.
The leaders of
Saudi Arabia,
Qatar and
Pakistan do not have formal diplomatic relations with Israel, and Mr Trump’s suggestion was reported to have surprised them.’

“There was silence on the line, and Trump joked and asked if they are still there,” a US official with knowledge of the call told the news’

Whilst Trump plans for what he wants after a Peace deal

Benjamin Netanyahu wants to retain the right to continue the conflict, which the deal is expected to end’

and let’s not forget Lebanon, Iran previously stated any peace deal must include Lebanon

On Monday night, Mr Netanyahu said he had ordered his military to intensify its offensive in Lebanon in an effort to “crush” Hezbollah, accusing the group of targeting Israeli forces with drone attacks. The announcement came after opposition leader Yair Lapid said the prospective US-Iran peace deal was “bad for Israel and bad for the region”.

Is it a Peace deal to end the war then, or is it just to stop the USs part in it
and What does an end to war really look like anyway. If we look at continued attacks in Gaza there's definitely a comprehension issue.

( Italics from The Telegraph )

Stirabout · 26/05/2026 04:27

To clarify
Israel stated they want to continue the war with Lebanon

They have not commented about Iran

however the Guardian today

Israel has been not only locked out of negotiations with Iran, it has not even been updated on their progress, according to the New York Times. Its government has been forced to resort to drawing on regional allies and their espionage networks surveilling Iran’s leadership.
The deal that Trump’s team is negotiating may put some constraints on Iran’s nuclear programme, but there was broad consensus they would be less restrictive than an agreement reached by Barack Obama’s administration in 2015.
Netanyahu criticised that deal, officially known as the joint comprehensive plan of action(JCPOA), in Washington DC at the time.
“The emerging agreement is far worse than the previous one,” Ben Caspit wrote in Ma’ariv, highlighting the risk that fallout from the war and ceasefire deal could accelerate Iran’s nuclear programme, rather than destroying it as Netanyahu had promised. “If they [Iran] do come to possess a nuclear bomb, it will be Bibi’s bomb.”

So
Will Netanyahu do what Trump tells him to do ?

ColdOut2025 · 26/05/2026 06:15

"We're close to a deal" ; bombs within 24 hours. Somethings never change

JadeHare · 26/05/2026 06:21

Self defense??

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 06:59

American forces targeted a missile launch site in Bandar Abbas, the site of one of Iran’s largest naval bases, and two Iranian boats seeking to lay mines in the Strait of Hormuz, according to US Central Command (Centcom).

With a partial peace agreement apparently very close, maybe they shouldn't have done that. But that again, will anyone but me bother to mention that maybe - with a partial peace agreement so close - just maybe Iran shouldn't have been putting down more mines in the Strait?

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JadeHare · 26/05/2026 07:40

On that proviso, maybe Israel should stop bombing the crap out of Lebanon in this so called ceasefire.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 07:55

JadeHare · 26/05/2026 07:40

On that proviso, maybe Israel should stop bombing the crap out of Lebanon in this so called ceasefire.

What a typical response as soon as anyone dares criticise Iran. Anyone would think there was nothing wrong with Iran continuing to lay mines in the Strait of Hormuz.

If you want to switch to Lebanon, maybe Hezbollah should stop attacking too?

Maybe they should all stop the aggression for 5 minutes & agree peace. It’s only telling half the story to only focus on the US & Israel though.

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JadeHare · 26/05/2026 08:01

I am not focusing only on Israel and the US. The terms of the ceasefire deal was an end to hostilities towards Iran and Lebanon. You sit there and slag off Iran for putting mines, fair enough. You don’t mention that Israel have continued to bomb the shit out of Lebanon, and have done so every single day since this alleged ceasefire began. Why, I wonder?

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