US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

• A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
• The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
• The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
• The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
• The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
• These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
• The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

I mentioned Iran laying mines because it was the missing context from the report about the US bombing two Iranian boats.

The war in Lebanon is like Gaza on repeat. 123 medics killed since the hostilities began. Many of them double taps. MEDICS, not Hezbollah.

https://news.sky.com/video/the-paramedics-under-attack-in-lebanon-13547776

An Israeli strike captured on camera has killed three paramedics in Lebanon. Just 12 hours earlier, four other medics were killed. Since the war between Israel and Hezbollah resumed in March, 123 medics in Lebanon have been killed in Israeli attacks.

Ok but that’s not what the conversation was about? It was about the US targeting a missile launch site and destroying 2 Iranian boats.

You were happy to stick to that topic until I added the little detail that the Iranian boats were laying more mines in the Strait.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guards has responded by saying it has the right to respond to any US ceasefire breach after Washington launched strikes on southern Iran overnight.

I am quite happy to admit that the US said Iran were laying mines.

But I also want you to acknowledge that Israel have broken the so called terms of the ceasefire by bombing the shit out of Lebanon every single day since it was called. It

And you were the one who posted the news story. No one else had!

Israel's bombing of Lebanon is part of the peace talks, so very on topic.

The topic is about a ceasefire. Jesus christ.

Someone else mentioned "We're close to a deal" ; bombs within 24 hours. Somethings never change.

You then said Self defense??

I then clarified that the reason the US bombed the 2 Iran boats was because they were laying mines in the Strait.

I meant the conversation you and another poster were having before I posted - see above.

Lets see if you are capable of answering a simple question honestly shall we?

Have Israel also broken the terms of this ceasefire by continuing to attack Lebanon every single day since the terms of the ceasefire were made?

Yes, or no?

In the same spirit in which you said I am quite happy to admit that the US said* *Iran were laying mines, I am happy to acknowledge that Israel has been bombing Lebanon daily because they said Hezbollah have been attacking them.

Who we choose to believe out of what the US/IRGC say or Israel/Hezbollah say is up to each of us to decide.

Ah yes, Hezbollah. Not medics…..

Israel has broken the terms of the ceasefire, unless you believe what they say about self-defence. From what I can tell the self-defence argument is true in some cases but not in every case.

So has Iran broken the terms of the ceasefire via their proxy Hezbollah.

Exactly. Both of them, not just Iran.

There’s no proof they were attempting to lay mines.

That’s just what the US has said.
As it stands two countries are at war and one has attacked another in a ceasefire with no proof, out there in the public domain, as to why

Meanwhile they are supposed to be nearing a peace deal but Trump is chucking insults around as per usual, Rubio is telling everyone what ‘has’ to happen and it seems Iran isn’t lying down and taking it

‘ Meanwhile, Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei said the Middle East "will no longer serve as shields for US bases".
Khamenei, who has not been seen in public since succeeding his late father as supreme leader earlier this year, made the comments on Tuesday in a message marking the annual Hajj pilgrimage.
He added: "In addition to no longer having a safe haven for evil and establishing military bases in the region, America is moving away from its previous status day by day."

CNN Reported this :

"The US military conducted “self-defense strikes” targeting Iranian missile launch sites and boats around the Strait of Hormuz on Monday amid a ceasefire between the two countries and ongoing negotiations to end the war, according to US Central Command.
“U.S. forces conducted self-defense strikes in southern Iran today to protect our troops from threats posed by Iranian forces,” CENTCOM spokesman Timothy Hawkins told CNN in a statement when asked about explosions reported around the Strait of Hormuz.
“Targets included missile launch sites and Iranian boats attempting to emplace mines. U.S. Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing ceasefire,” he added."

A couple of things I note from that, and the situation in general.

The first mention is self defence against missile sites. There is no mention of what the "sites" were doing that required defending against. Usually self defence would need a reason. "He pointed a gun at me", rather than "he had a gun.

Next is the boats attempting to lay mines. Hmmm. Evidence please. Because we have been told time and time again all their boats have been sunk. And we have also not seen any evidence of actual mines.

And yeah, what size are the boats and what size are the mines. Mines are sort of big and heavy and need special ships to deploy them. Where is the US info on that ?

And on top off that, given there is a cease fire, I expect it would have needed POTUS himself to say "fire". So that adds an aspect. Was there an officer in CENTCOM saying they are doing something, or did POTUS say "shoot something".

So mines. Lets see some evidence please. Because at this point, it is a draw from both sides on the honesty stuff.

Exactly

It was self defence
We hit something of theirs because it could have hit something of ours
They did it first but there’s no proof
….sorry but suckers will believe whatever we say because
Our leader is the leader of the free world and
we are American
and they are Iranian
of course everyone will believe us.

Let’s Not forget
Didn't we in the U.K. fall for believing everything the US said once before !

We can add the school as well. And the lack of the official report from the US.

Yeah. Evidence is a big thing. And even in a war with secrecy, we would expect at least to see photos of captured mines, drone footage of mines being laid from these boats, Basic info on the size of the mines, what damage etc.

Instead of all that we get "boats attempting to lay mines". So we are left trying to figure out how these "speed boats" are managing to carry and deploy big heavy mines, with their anchor wires and anchor blocks. If that is what they are using.

All whilst being 7250 miles away from America. The US is really breaking into houses and expecting the homeowner not to fire back!

No wonder the Yankee go home sentiment is growing around the World.

Well exactly
For those of us who start dissecting the practicalities on the back of Trumps previous claims is it any wonder we
shouldn’t believe anything without proof.

Its not like they were going to say
yeh
we broke the ceasefire

Why also didn’t they just shoot at these boats or the people on them.

None of it makes sense
again and
again
and again

Maybe it is because I am an Engineer by trade that I have an interest in the mechanics of how things work. And although my internet is limited, I can still find some info on Iranian mines. Sample clip attached.

How they are laying these things from what appears to be standard speed boats, I have no idea. I can work out how a boat could be adapted.

To me, surely the US would normally be saying how. Or at least hinting. Something along the lines of "using modified speed boats".

Great research there Red

Some Mumsnetters have so many hidden talents
and are great at research and critical thinking 👏👏

That's not research. I just put it into the search bar.

These are all heavy things. The smallest has a 120Kg warhead. That is the warhead, so we could say the weight of the whole thing is at least double. So lets say 250 Kg.

That's a big lump to manhandle over the side of a speedboat. And that would have to be done by 2 people. One either side to lift it over the gunwale.

I can't see it myself. And that is not an argument from incredulity. It's just physics.

And hey, we are officially in the post Truth era.