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US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 10:19

As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

  • A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
  • The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
  • The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
  • The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
  • The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
  • These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
  • The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

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TopPocketFind · 03/05/2026 18:44

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0px2x53k2o

Iran has received a US response to its latest peace proposal, Iranian state-linked media have said.
Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson said the response - which was delivered via Pakistan - was now being reviewed, according to Tasnim news agency.
The US is yet to confirm it has replied to Tehran. On Saturday, President Donald Trump he would "soon be reviewing the plan that Iran has just sent to us, but can't imagine that it would be acceptable".

Efacsen · 03/05/2026 19:00

Not going to say anything even remotely positive about Iran's latest offering as last time I did Trump almost immediately nixed the Iranian plan

It's the hope that...... you know the rest

Efacsen · 03/05/2026 19:02

QED

AnSpideog · 03/05/2026 20:57

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 11:21

It's really hard having a conversation when you don't seem to understand a word I say.

You said: This is how serious Trump takes this war (implying not very seriously).

I replied: How seriously do Iran take the war with their LEGO stuff? (implying the same thing re the use of jokes as propaganda).

Maybe you don't find Trump's silly propaganda funny but lots of people do. The same as lots of people find Iran's silly propaganda funny.

Personally, I find them both a bit funny but I wouldn't be posting either of them because I recognise them for what they are which is propaganda.

Iran’s propaganda is intelligent, sophisticated and brilliantly funny. It’s clearly made by a large team and with people who have an in depth understanding of American culture and the discourse around the Trump administration. It’s targeted at Americans so now they have actual Americans sharing Iranian propaganda widely on social media. Evil genius right there.

Trumps posts made right into the wee hours are the ramblings of a mad man. He has even managed to alienate many in his base.

I’m not sure there is any comparison to be honest.

Islandsofsand · 03/05/2026 22:09

I’m not sure if most people would use the word funny to describe Trump’s texts. Bizarre and horrifying seem more apt when it comes to considering how the supposed leader of the free world is conducting his PR machine and policy.

What was it that Macron said that Trump should do with regard to his constant texting? Be serious, don’t speak every day.

Think Merz had it right - at least on the face / PR side, when it came to who is humiliating who.

GentleSheep · 03/05/2026 22:34

Trump has (unsurprisingly) rejected Iran's latest offer. Apparently 'Project Freedom' will begin, which is the 'liberation' of vessels stuck in the Strait of Hormuz. Very long Truth Social post so there are 2 images with overlap.

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire
US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire
TopPocketFind · 03/05/2026 22:40

"humantarian gesture" Hmm

He didn't write that post.

GentleSheep · 03/05/2026 22:41

TopPocketFind · 03/05/2026 22:40

"humantarian gesture" Hmm

He didn't write that post.

It's way too polite for Trump! 😂

TopPocketFind · 03/05/2026 22:46

GentleSheep · 03/05/2026 22:41

It's way too polite for Trump! 😂

And it still doesn't make sense

GentleSheep · 04/05/2026 00:19

CENTCOM the US Military says Project Freedom is about opening the Strait and allowing commercial shipping through. Not quite what Trump has said!

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire
Stirabout · 04/05/2026 01:09

TopPocketFind · 03/05/2026 17:12

Iran has proposed a 3-stage plan to end the war, Al Jazeera reports.

Stage 1, within 30 days:

  • the ceasefire becomes permanent peace
  • Hormuz gradually reopened and US blockade lifted
  • a mutual non-aggression pact including Israel

Stage 2, mid-term:

  • enrichment frozen for 15 years
  • a later cap of 3.6%, civilian level
  • no dismantling of nuclear sites
  • sanctions lifted

Stage 3, long-term:

  • regional Middle East security talks

Sounds like a good plan
the only issue is

There's nothing in it for Trump and Israel.
In terms of gain that is.
Obviously they get what they’ve officially said they want but not what either really want

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 05:03

AnSpideog · 03/05/2026 20:57

Iran’s propaganda is intelligent, sophisticated and brilliantly funny. It’s clearly made by a large team and with people who have an in depth understanding of American culture and the discourse around the Trump administration. It’s targeted at Americans so now they have actual Americans sharing Iranian propaganda widely on social media. Evil genius right there.

Trumps posts made right into the wee hours are the ramblings of a mad man. He has even managed to alienate many in his base.

I’m not sure there is any comparison to be honest.

Glad you at least recognise it for what it is - propaganda.

That being the case, while some of it is funny (though hardly "sophisticated") perhaps it's not that appropriate for people to be spreading the propaganda of a terrorist organisation?

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RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 05:40

GentleSheep · 04/05/2026 00:19

CENTCOM the US Military says Project Freedom is about opening the Strait and allowing commercial shipping through. Not quite what Trump has said!

This looks to be a re-run of what Trump posted about 2 months ago. He said the US navy would escort ships, the US Navy sort of said... hmmmm. And nowt happened. And here we are. Same thing again.

And it's worth noting that his insurance thing has been totally forgotten. Put that on the whiteboard list of things that never happened.

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 05:45

The Iran peace proposal does show a softening in their stance which is positive. For example, one of Iran's points in their first peace proposal was the recognition of Iran's right to nuclear enrichment, yet in this version we see them offering a 15 year pause to all uranium enrichment. After which they would be able to enrich uranium to 3.6% according to the plan, which is far short of the level needed to create a nuclear weapon.

The offer of a 15 year freeze on nuclear enrichment could be presented by Trump as a "win" in that it's a clear improvement to the situation before the war. Although the US apparently proposed a 20-year freeze on uranium enrichment during the negotiations in Islamabad last month, so they would be hoping to increase the pause. Still, the 2 sides are getting closer to agreement on that important issue.

In other ways however, Iran's peace proposal was never going to be accepted - for example to delay the nuclear talks to stage 2.

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Islandsofsand · 04/05/2026 06:58

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 05:03

Glad you at least recognise it for what it is - propaganda.

That being the case, while some of it is funny (though hardly "sophisticated") perhaps it's not that appropriate for people to be spreading the propaganda of a terrorist organisation?

It was already widely spread -personally, I read about it in several mainstream news sources- that’s how successful Iran’s Lego videos were. I’m not sure posters subsequently discussing it CIME board on Mumsnet is going to really top that.

And of course it was propaganda (what else could it have been?). I was thinking of their purpose as it seems counterproductive to mock someone who you need to negotiate with, unless the intention was to make him even less popular in the U.S. as well as in other countries. I don’t think the videos could have possibly done that by themselves though.

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 06:58

During a series of public remarks on Friday, Trump repeated his refrain that "Iran can never have a nuclear weapon".

Iran has repeatedly denied it is seeking a bomb and says its programme is only for peaceful purposes, though the country is the only non-nuclear-armed state to have enriched uranium at near weapons-grade level.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0px2x53k2o

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Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 07:03

Islandsofsand · 04/05/2026 06:58

It was already widely spread -personally, I read about it in several mainstream news sources- that’s how successful Iran’s Lego videos were. I’m not sure posters subsequently discussing it CIME board on Mumsnet is going to really top that.

And of course it was propaganda (what else could it have been?). I was thinking of their purpose as it seems counterproductive to mock someone who you need to negotiate with, unless the intention was to make him even less popular in the U.S. as well as in other countries. I don’t think the videos could have possibly done that by themselves though.

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It's still spreading propaganda and most of the MN posts have used positive language to describe the LEGO videos.

People are free to admire it if they want but should at least recognise that they are admiring propaganda from a terrorist regime.

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Islandsofsand · 04/05/2026 07:13

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 07:03

It's still spreading propaganda and most of the MN posts have used positive language to describe the LEGO videos.

People are free to admire it if they want but should at least recognise that they are admiring propaganda from a terrorist regime.

The success of it is demonstrated by the fact we are engaging in a discussion about it too!

You know you don’t have to agree with something to not also admire it? But as I said, the videos probably only reinforced what others thought - maybe that also added to their success.

I really wouldn’t worry about it spreading on this board though - a minuscule number of people, on the scale of things, read this board.

Islandsofsand · 04/05/2026 07:31

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 06:58

During a series of public remarks on Friday, Trump repeated his refrain that "Iran can never have a nuclear weapon".

Iran has repeatedly denied it is seeking a bomb and says its programme is only for peaceful purposes, though the country is the only non-nuclear-armed state to have enriched uranium at near weapons-grade level.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0px2x53k2o

Thanks for sharing

US intelligence said Iran wasn’t close to getting a weapon for some years, so Trump must be worried about the longer term. What do you think needs to happen to prevent that?

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 08:04

Islandsofsand · 04/05/2026 07:31

Thanks for sharing

US intelligence said Iran wasn’t close to getting a weapon for some years, so Trump must be worried about the longer term. What do you think needs to happen to prevent that?

I reckon fetching the JCPOA out the bin and sellotaping it back together, pretending Trump never tore it up in the first place, would be a good start.

Maybe even get Kerry and Obama involved. They can do the sellotaping.

A Prit stick is too complex for Trump.

GentleSheep · 04/05/2026 08:13

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 05:45

The Iran peace proposal does show a softening in their stance which is positive. For example, one of Iran's points in their first peace proposal was the recognition of Iran's right to nuclear enrichment, yet in this version we see them offering a 15 year pause to all uranium enrichment. After which they would be able to enrich uranium to 3.6% according to the plan, which is far short of the level needed to create a nuclear weapon.

The offer of a 15 year freeze on nuclear enrichment could be presented by Trump as a "win" in that it's a clear improvement to the situation before the war. Although the US apparently proposed a 20-year freeze on uranium enrichment during the negotiations in Islamabad last month, so they would be hoping to increase the pause. Still, the 2 sides are getting closer to agreement on that important issue.

In other ways however, Iran's peace proposal was never going to be accepted - for example to delay the nuclear talks to stage 2.

Hmmm not sure it is 'positive'. If they were truly genuine then maybe, but they are far more likely just pushing the nuclear issue into the future when they know Trump will no longer be president unless the US changes their 22nd Amendment. I highly doubt they have any such plan as a 15 year pause, it just sounds good on paper. Remember the regime just want the US and Israel to leave them be so they can get back to their original plans and that includes the destruction of Israel by whatever means.

Whatever they agree, if and when they do, I personally don't expect them to keep to the agreement. The only way that could happen is if the regime falls and is replaced with a reasonable government!

GentleSheep · 04/05/2026 08:14

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 08:04

I reckon fetching the JCPOA out the bin and sellotaping it back together, pretending Trump never tore it up in the first place, would be a good start.

Maybe even get Kerry and Obama involved. They can do the sellotaping.

A Prit stick is too complex for Trump.

Yep, if the Democrats win next election I think that's highly likely!

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 08:22

Islandsofsand · 04/05/2026 07:31

Thanks for sharing

US intelligence said Iran wasn’t close to getting a weapon for some years, so Trump must be worried about the longer term. What do you think needs to happen to prevent that?

While experts disagree that Iran was close to developing a nuclear weapon in a few weeks as Trump claimed, that doesn't mean they wouldn't potentially have been able to develop them in a few months to a year, as Netanyahu claimed.

From what I understand, it's much harder to get to the 60% levels of enrichment Iran had already achieved than it would be to make the further transition required from 60% to 90%. No one really knows Iran's intentions, but there was legitimate cause for concern over the question of why they felt the need to develop enrichment levels as far as 60%. The situation is nuanced, as this article from June 2025 shows:

When asked by the BBC about Israel's claims on Monday, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Rafael Grossi, said: "This is their evaluation of the situation. I'm not familiar with the internal reports or information that they may have."

However, he noted that the IAEA's latest quarterly report released in late May warned that Iran had amassed enough uranium enriched up to 60% purity - a short, technical step away from weapons grade, or 90% - to potentially make nine nuclear bombs. That was "a source of legitimate concern", he said.

Grossi also said the agency could not provide assurance that the Iranian nuclear programme was exclusively peaceful because Iran was not complying with its investigation into man-made uranium particles discovered by inspectors at three undeclared nuclear sites.

"At the same time, we recall that whereas until the early 2000s there used to be... a structured and systematic effort in the direction of a nuclear device, that is not the case now," he added.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn840275p5yo

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RoyalImpatience · 04/05/2026 08:27

So trump has now said the USA military will escort ships out of the straight ! As a kind gesture so they can get on with their business.

Twiglets1 · 04/05/2026 08:28

GentleSheep · 04/05/2026 08:13

Hmmm not sure it is 'positive'. If they were truly genuine then maybe, but they are far more likely just pushing the nuclear issue into the future when they know Trump will no longer be president unless the US changes their 22nd Amendment. I highly doubt they have any such plan as a 15 year pause, it just sounds good on paper. Remember the regime just want the US and Israel to leave them be so they can get back to their original plans and that includes the destruction of Israel by whatever means.

Whatever they agree, if and when they do, I personally don't expect them to keep to the agreement. The only way that could happen is if the regime falls and is replaced with a reasonable government!

I take any slight softening of Iran's position as a positive, because they are so hardline. Agree though that it will only genuinely be a positive if they agree to do away with the stages, at least as far as freezing enrichment goes and the cap set at the civilian level of 3.6%

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