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Conflict in the Middle East

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 10:19

As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

  • A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
  • The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
  • The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
  • The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
  • The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
  • These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
  • The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

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Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 10:46

BelleHathor · 27/04/2026 09:30

I guess you forgot to add the disclaimer "former IDF Unit 8200 Soldier" to that Axios report written by Barak Ravid you posted earlier? seeing as you are all about "facts".

Anyway I didn't post it for you, it was for people who actually want more information, and both those men have more access to Washington than any of us do here. Just because it is being discussed in spaces you don't know about doesn't make it inaccurate or untrue.

The fact that Barnes is saying this is exceptional, I unfollowed him 2 years ago as he did the whole "Israel has a right to defend itself" spiel. That's he's done a 180 degree is surprising.

p.s the UH is from the subtitles on the videos.

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Why unfollow someone just because they say Israel has the right to defend itself? Any country has that right.

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Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 10:49

TopPocketFind · 27/04/2026 09:38

That proposal won't fly

We will have to wait and see as nobody knows at this stage

That is true that we don't know, you can mentally add "in my opinion" to my words "that won't fly".

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Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 11:14

@BelleHathor I don't need to add the disclaimer "former IDF Unit 8200 Soldier" to that Axios report written by Barak Ravid you posted earlier, and neither does @TopPocketFind who posted the same report.

That's because we just posted the report without emotion or assumptions. It is up to readers of the report what they take from it, if anything.

By contrast, you indicated that you thought what you were linking to was something important by openly speculating that I wouldn't know about it because "new passenger's on the MAGA train" don't know about it because they "only jumped on for Israel".

I'm not on the MAGA train by the way. Not for Israel or anyone would I support Trump. I just see the war in a more nuanced way than it's all America's fault or the US & Israel.

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GentleSheep · 27/04/2026 11:20

However, I disagree that it is "old news" - firstly that Iran would kill thousands of their own civilian for the "crime" of protesting against their regime, secondly that they would fire missiles and destroy infrastructure of their neighbouring countries (including water desalination plants) or thirdly that they would impose an internet blackout - now entering it's 58th day according to NetBlocks.

It may be because I'm quite old and have had a number of friends who escaped the Iranian regime. One had two of her brothers executed in prison, just for demonstrating. It's brutal over there, and has been for decades. So the fact they'd kill thousands of their own for protesting doesn't surprise me at all. The Internet blackout makes total sense to stop information getting out (even though some still does via Starlink). They wouldn't be the first regime to do that. The missiles aimed at neighbouring countries is, as I said in my post, the one thing that has surprised me, it's bonkers if the regime wants support from those countries. However younger folk may not know any of that, I admit.

Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 11:39

GentleSheep · 27/04/2026 11:20

However, I disagree that it is "old news" - firstly that Iran would kill thousands of their own civilian for the "crime" of protesting against their regime, secondly that they would fire missiles and destroy infrastructure of their neighbouring countries (including water desalination plants) or thirdly that they would impose an internet blackout - now entering it's 58th day according to NetBlocks.

It may be because I'm quite old and have had a number of friends who escaped the Iranian regime. One had two of her brothers executed in prison, just for demonstrating. It's brutal over there, and has been for decades. So the fact they'd kill thousands of their own for protesting doesn't surprise me at all. The Internet blackout makes total sense to stop information getting out (even though some still does via Starlink). They wouldn't be the first regime to do that. The missiles aimed at neighbouring countries is, as I said in my post, the one thing that has surprised me, it's bonkers if the regime wants support from those countries. However younger folk may not know any of that, I admit.

I think it's because you have a number of friends who have escaped the Iranian regime (including your friend and her poor brothers) that you consider it "old news" that the regime is as brutal as it is.

To the average person living in the UK who does not have Iranian friends (including me), the fact that the IRGC is so demonic was not really on our radar before the horrific things that happened to Iranian protestors in January 2026.

The IRGC aren't even proscribed terrorists in the UK, though that will be changing in the next few months, apparently. To people like me the behaviour of the IRGC is shocking and it needs calling out in these discussions just as much as people rightly call out Trump's shocking behaviour. I feel like both sides actually want an end to the war now but too much ego/pride/face saving to be able to negotiate effectively and bring an end to it.

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TopPocketFind · 27/04/2026 11:51

To people like me the behaviour of the IRGC is shocking and it needs calling out

Nobody is disagreeing with you on that. How many times does that need pointing out Confused

Unless you really think it is just people like you? Whatever that means.

I am really getting fed up with these digs from you.

RedTagAlan · 27/04/2026 12:39

I think the EU are notable in their difference to the US. When they put tariffs on Chinese EVs for example, they clearly presented their case why. They published it all. And China complained like hell, threatened their own reciprocals, but the EU stood firm. Our rules, you comply.

Same with sanctions. The EU sanctions only apply to member states. They say Iranian oil banned, it only applies to the EU.

The US tho? They sat tariffs by tweet. And the US want their sanctions to apply to everyone.

Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 13:23

@TopPocketFind This discussion started yesterday when I wondered aloud why there was so much emphasis on the US wrongdoings on the thread and so little on Iran.

@Islandsofsand invited me to go ahead with my wondering, which I agreed I would.

We then took a little detour after a poster talked about Iran's charm offensive to make new allies. After a bit of back and forth I think it was agreed Iran only have two allies (and won't be making any new ones any time soon due to their aggressive behaviour towards their neighbours in the middle east). The IRGC are getting prescribed as a terrorist organisation by new countries all the time, but luckily the two allies they do have are strong ones.

We had moved away from the original discussion about different amounts of emphasis on the US & Iran when @GentleSheep returned back to it by trying to help me understand it with their own thoughts. I appreciated the insight they offered. I explained to them that to the average person living in the UK who does not have Iranian friends, the fact that the IRGC is so demonic was not really on our radar before the horrific things that happened to Iranian protestors in January 2026. That is what I meant by "people like me" - an average person living in the UK who had no special interest in Iran before January 2026.

There was a bit more discussion around other topics.

@TopPocketFind you reminded me that you can not dictate what or where posters post...

This is true so quite honestly, I think you need to follow your own advice and let me go ahead with calling out the shocking behaviour of the IRGC as often as I want to and wondering why more people don't talk about it. These comments are not directly aimed at you.

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GentleSheep · 27/04/2026 13:23

That's a great article, even with the swearing!

For the Poms. The EU reset is quietly undoing the worst of Brexit without anyone in Westminster having to admit it out loud. SPS agreement. Data adequacy. Electricity market reintegration. Erasmus+ back. Security and defence partnership signed. The UK-Australia FTA has already boosted bilateral trade 14.3%. The UK-India FTA signed in July 2025 is the biggest post-Brexit deal Britain has inked. London sits at the intersection of CANZUK, AUKUS, Five Eyes, and NATO, and with Starmer pragmatically working both the European and Commonwealth levers, the UK’s post-Brexit identity crisis has got a genuinely coherent answer for the first time in a decade.

Also, cantaloupe Caligula 😂

Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 13:44

GentleSheep · 27/04/2026 13:23

That's a great article, even with the swearing!

For the Poms. The EU reset is quietly undoing the worst of Brexit without anyone in Westminster having to admit it out loud. SPS agreement. Data adequacy. Electricity market reintegration. Erasmus+ back. Security and defence partnership signed. The UK-Australia FTA has already boosted bilateral trade 14.3%. The UK-India FTA signed in July 2025 is the biggest post-Brexit deal Britain has inked. London sits at the intersection of CANZUK, AUKUS, Five Eyes, and NATO, and with Starmer pragmatically working both the European and Commonwealth levers, the UK’s post-Brexit identity crisis has got a genuinely coherent answer for the first time in a decade.

Also, cantaloupe Caligula 😂

I like the article too (don't mind a bit of swearing). The author certainly has a clever & funny way with words.

I also liked that it was positive about the UK and rest of Europe.

Yay! Positivity at last 😅

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GentleSheep · 27/04/2026 13:57

Twiglets1 · 27/04/2026 13:44

I like the article too (don't mind a bit of swearing). The author certainly has a clever & funny way with words.

I also liked that it was positive about the UK and rest of Europe.

Yay! Positivity at last 😅

I know, sometimes good can come about due to bad things happening elsewhere! 😊

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/04/2026 14:27

Glad yis enjoyed it. We could all do with a bit of optimism and a laugh in these times.😊

Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 07:02

Daily update from the Institute of War, yesterday's update covered why Iran is pushing for a peace agreement that would lift the US naval blockade:

Iran’s rapidly depleting oil storage capacity likely explains, at least in part, why Iran is pushing for a peace agreement that would lift the US naval blockade. The Wall Street Journal reported on April 27 that the US blockade on Iranian ports has forced Iran to store oil in “disused oil tanks in poor condition” and in “containers” in the cities of Ahvaz, Khuzestan Province, and Asaluyeh, Bushehr Province, according to unspecified current and former Iranian officials.

Hamid Hosseini, the spokesperson for Iran’s oil exporting union, told the Wall Street Journal that Iran is trying to send its oil to China by rail. The Wall Street Journal noted that most exporters avoid transporting oil by rail because rail shipments are less efficient and less profitable than seaborne shipments, however.

The Wall Street Journal’s April 27 report is consistent with a prior April 12 estimate from a US sanctions analyst that Iran had roughly 13 days of onshore storage capacity remaining before it would be forced to shut down oil production.

ISW is unable to independently assess the exact status of Iran’s onshore and offshore storage capacity. Any shutdown of Iranian oil wells could cause permanent reservoir damage, however, which would affect Iran’s ability to produce its most valuable export.

understandingwar.org/research/middle-east/iran-update-special-report-april-27-2026/

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Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 08:08

Trump has given his verdict on the latest Iranian peace proposal; he “doesn’t love the proposal” a US source told Reuters.

According to the US official, Trump is unhappy because it doesn’t address Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium, which the US wants to remove.

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TopPocketFind · 28/04/2026 09:06

Trump's blockade is working well

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/russian-superyacht-crosses-blockaded-strait-hormuz-2026-04-27/?

Sanctioned Russian billionaire's yacht passes through blockaded Strait of Hormuz.

Russian billionaire Alexey Mordashov’s superyacht passed through the Strait of Hormuz despite ongoing restrictions on maritime traffic in the strategic waterway

Efacsen · 28/04/2026 09:38

IDK maybe the Russian billionaire super-yacht owner is a friend of Trumps

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Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 09:38

US blockade appears to be blocking Iranian oil - Bloomberg

The US naval blockade appears to be preventing Iranian crude from reaching customers, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday, citing satellite images and maritime analyses.

Around six to eight supertankers loaded with Iranian oil were idling late last week near Chabahar, a port outside the Persian Gulf close to the blockade line, according to the report.

Smaller tankers were also seen nearby, in an area where the US Navy said it had redirected two very large crude carriers it intercepted last week, the report added.

Bloomberg said the buildup suggested Iran was still loading oil onto ships, but traffic through the Strait of Hormuz was near zero and Tehran could soon be forced to shut in production as storage runs out.

www.iranintl.com/en/202604282071

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Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 09:43

Iran’s foreign trade suffers wartime collapse

Iran’s foreign trade has suffered a sharp contraction in the first month of war with the United States and Israel, newly released customs data show, signaling a severe blow to the country’s already fragile economy.

Figures from Iran’s customs administration show non-oil trade collapsed in the final month of the previous Iranian fiscal year (February 21–March 22), falling to just $6.4 billion—down 30% from the previous month and 50% from a year earlier.

The plunge coincided with military escalation that began on February 28, when US and Israel attacked Iran and Iran retaliated with strikes against Arab neighbours across the Persian Gulf.

The conflict disrupted shipping routes and strained regional trade links.
The fallout has been especially visible in trade with Iran’s main commercial partners. The United Arab Emirates, Iran’s second-largest trading partner, reportedly suspended trade with Tehran in early March.

Chinese customs data also point to a steep decline in bilateral trade. China’s non-oil trade with Iran fell to just $184 million in March, compared with more than $907 million in the same month last year—roughly one-fifth of its level a year earlier.

While Iranian customs data exclude crude oil exports, tanker-tracking data from Kpler indicate Iranian crude deliveries to Chinese ports averaged around 1.53 million barrels per day in March, about 15% lower than in March 2025, suggesting energy exports are also under pressure.

In total, Iran’s non-oil foreign trade during the last fiscal year stood at $109 billion, down 16% from the previous year. Imports accounted for 53% of the total, underscoring the economy’s reliance on foreign supplies at a time of escalating geopolitical disruption.

The outlook may worsen in the months ahead.

Following Israeli strikes on petrochemical facilities, Iran has banned petrochemical exports. On Monday, the Iran Trade Promotion Organization ordered a halt to exports of steel slabs and sheets until May 30 as the country’s steel industry came under pressure following US-Israeli strikes.

The secretary of Iran’s steel producers’ association said work was underway on an urgent plan to import steel slabs and hot-rolled sheets, underscoring the scale of the disruption.

At the same time, steel production facilities in Isfahan and Khuzestan—which account for roughly 70% of Iran’s steel output—have reportedly suffered major damage.

Together, petrochemicals and steel generate an estimated $18 billion to $20 billion in annual exports, accounting for more than one-third of Iran’s non-oil export revenues. Prolonged disruption in those sectors would hit government revenues, industrial output and access to foreign currency.

Additional pressure is also emerging at sea. In response to Iran’s move to block the Strait of Hormuz, the United States has begun enforcing a naval blockade on Iran, a development likely to further restrict both oil and non-oil trade.

With US-Iran diplomacy still deadlocked and sanctions relief appearing distant, the outlook could worsen further in the absence of a deal to ease pressure on trade and energy exports.

Taken together, the data suggest Iran may be facing not a temporary slowdown but the early stages of a historic external shock.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202604284103

A truck driver walks past a stack of IRISL containers at a depot in northern Singapore February 4, 2012.

Iran’s foreign trade suffers wartime collapse

Iran’s foreign trade has suffered a sharp contraction in the first month of war with the United States and Israel, newly released customs data show, signaling a severe blow to the country’s already fragile economy.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202604284103

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TopPocketFind · 28/04/2026 09:49

And how much damage is the blockade causing global economies?

Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 09:50

TopPocketFind · 28/04/2026 09:49

And how much damage is the blockade causing global economies?

A lot.

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BelleHathor · 28/04/2026 10:14

TopPocketFind · 28/04/2026 09:06

Trump's blockade is working well

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/russian-superyacht-crosses-blockaded-strait-hormuz-2026-04-27/?

Sanctioned Russian billionaire's yacht passes through blockaded Strait of Hormuz.

Russian billionaire Alexey Mordashov’s superyacht passed through the Strait of Hormuz despite ongoing restrictions on maritime traffic in the strategic waterway

Trump forgot that there are companies that actually track ship movements and their tracking contradicts his claims 🫣😉

https://www.ft.com/content/21dff2c7-1e27-4f74-81d8-31dcdbe9188e?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Iranian tankers bypass US blockade
At least 34 tankers with links to Iran have bypassed the US blockade since it began, according to the cargo tracking group Vortexa, including several carrying Iranian oil — despite US President Donald Trump declaring the barricade a “tremendous success”.

"But tens of ships have managed to circumvent the blockade, according to Vortexa. At least 19 tankers with links to Iran have passed through the US blockade to exit the Gulf. At least 15 have entered the Gulf, heading towards Iran from the Arabian Sea.

At least six of those that left were confirmed as carrying cargoes of Iranian crude oil, amounting to 10.7mn barrels. Iran’s oil, which is normally sanctioned, tends to sell at a discount to Brent crude. Assuming a $10 discount, that volume would represent revenue of about $910mn.

Among those that have exited is the Dorena, an Iranian-flagged supertanker that navigated past the US blockade with its transponder — the device that signals its location and identity — turned off.
According to Vortexa, the sanctioned vessel was one of two laden tankers that left Iranian waters on April 17, with two more crude oil tankers having sailed past on April 20."

Trump composes these "fabrications" for low information people who accept his claims without verification or perhaps his advisers are really lying to him about the success of the blockades.

Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 11:50

BelleHathor · 28/04/2026 10:14

Trump forgot that there are companies that actually track ship movements and their tracking contradicts his claims 🫣😉

https://www.ft.com/content/21dff2c7-1e27-4f74-81d8-31dcdbe9188e?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Iranian tankers bypass US blockade
At least 34 tankers with links to Iran have bypassed the US blockade since it began, according to the cargo tracking group Vortexa, including several carrying Iranian oil — despite US President Donald Trump declaring the barricade a “tremendous success”.

"But tens of ships have managed to circumvent the blockade, according to Vortexa. At least 19 tankers with links to Iran have passed through the US blockade to exit the Gulf. At least 15 have entered the Gulf, heading towards Iran from the Arabian Sea.

At least six of those that left were confirmed as carrying cargoes of Iranian crude oil, amounting to 10.7mn barrels. Iran’s oil, which is normally sanctioned, tends to sell at a discount to Brent crude. Assuming a $10 discount, that volume would represent revenue of about $910mn.

Among those that have exited is the Dorena, an Iranian-flagged supertanker that navigated past the US blockade with its transponder — the device that signals its location and identity — turned off.
According to Vortexa, the sanctioned vessel was one of two laden tankers that left Iranian waters on April 17, with two more crude oil tankers having sailed past on April 20."

Trump composes these "fabrications" for low information people who accept his claims without verification or perhaps his advisers are really lying to him about the success of the blockades.

Read the article I posted again - it’s not Trump who is making the claims.

Actually, I would suggest other people on this thread do that.

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Efacsen · 28/04/2026 12:23

Twiglets1 · 28/04/2026 11:50

Read the article I posted again - it’s not Trump who is making the claims.

Actually, I would suggest other people on this thread do that.

@BelleHathor was responding to @TopPocketFind s post about the super yacht not you

So maybe take your own advice to read carefully?

TopPocketFind · 28/04/2026 12:23

Trump claimed that the US has total control over strait of Hormuz

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