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Conflict in the Middle East

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 10:19

As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

  • A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
  • The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
  • The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
  • The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
  • The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
  • These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
  • The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

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Islandsofsand · 24/04/2026 20:05

GentleSheep · 24/04/2026 08:56

Press Secretary Leavitt (March 10): “Moving forward, the stated objectives for Operation Epic Fury remain the same: destroy the terrorist regime’s ballistic missiles, raze their Iranian missile industry to the ground, ensure their terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize the region, and ensure that Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon.”

I do think there is an unspoken goal in all this - the unstated objective if you like, and although the original goal is what Leavitt says there, I think Trump (who is focusing on the US regaining power in all sorts of areas of the globe - think Venezuala, Cuba, wanting Greenland) has his beady eyes on Iran because right now he knows they are controlled/supplied/encouraged by Russia and China. He wants to prevent that and get control there, but he's finding it it's not that simple. He's playing a gigantic game of Risk. Too bad if that cuts off other nations' fuel and fertiliser supplies (along with other things). It would suit Israel too because Iran is of course a threat to them.

Yes Trump originally said this was to 'help the Iranian people' to regain control and he would open the way for them to do that but they'd have to finish the IRGC off themselves. A very tall order. Well it sounds good on paper, Trump being humanitarian and sorting out a whole region, he can put that on his CV for the Nobel Peace prize, but the reality is very different and at the moment all he's done is massively increase the hatred of the IRGC and their proxies for the US and Israel and all the other nations who have supported the war in any way, shape or form. Plus mess up those vital supplies.

The idea of the war being partly a proxy war against Russia and China is interesting.

However, he’s lifted restrictions on Russia selling its oil, allowing the country to fill it’s coffers.

As for the objectives of the war- I heard that Iran could simply agree to Trump’s objectives but rebuild capability regardless. The only way to absolutely prevent Iran from regrouping is regime change. However- Trump may only care about getting a better deal than Obama and he’s going to be out of office in 2 years.

TopPocketFind · 25/04/2026 00:09

Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Esmail Baqaei has said that no meeting is planned to take place between Iran and the US.

Twiglets1 · 25/04/2026 06:23

Share link doesn't work for me but I posted about it on another thread.

Sir Keir Starmer has announced that he will move to proscribe the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist organisation within weeks.

The Prime Minister said he would bring forward laws to ban the group “in a few weeks”, when the next session of Parliament begins following the local elections.

He made the announcement during a visit to Kenton United Synagogue, which was firebombed last week.

Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle, Sir Keir said he was “very worried” about the increasing use of proxies by the Iranian regime.

He added: “In relation to malign state actors more generally, proscription, we do need legislation in order to take necessary measures and that is legislation that we are bringing forward as soon as we can. We go into a new session in a few weeks time, and we will bring that legislation forward”.

The legislation will be included in the King’s Speech in May, The Telegraph understands.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/04/24/starmer-to-introduce-irgc-ban-within-weeks/

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Twiglets1 · 25/04/2026 07:26

TopPocketFind · 25/04/2026 00:09

Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Esmail Baqaei has said that no meeting is planned to take place between Iran and the US.

He said there are no plans for a “direct meeting” between the US and Iran.

The BBC report that Araghchi is set to meet Pakistani high level officials, while Iranian state media report that Islamabad can act as a “bridge” to “convey Iran’s consideration for ending the conflict”.

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Twiglets1 · 25/04/2026 08:23

Yesterday Trump gave an update on negotiations with Iran:

Trump told Reuters news agency that Iran was "making an offer and we'll have to see", but he didn't yet know what the offer was.

Speaking in a phone call, Trump gave little detail on which Iranian officials the US was negotiating with, but said his team was negotiating "with the people who are in charge now".

The US president added that Iran wants to talk and explore a possible deal, and that it plans to make an offer aimed at resolving US demands.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd7j1g94d1lt

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TopPocketFind · 25/04/2026 09:08

Telegraph is behind paywall as well.

Twiglets1 · 25/04/2026 09:30

TopPocketFind · 25/04/2026 09:08

Telegraph is behind paywall as well.

I know that which is why I copy and paste the main content.

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TopPocketFind · 25/04/2026 09:47

Main thing is that you read it, I remember you mentioning it one of your many threads so thought it would be of interest.

Twiglets1 · 25/04/2026 10:07

TopPocketFind · 25/04/2026 09:47

Main thing is that you read it, I remember you mentioning it one of your many threads so thought it would be of interest.

I contributed to the thread questioning whether the IRGC has been determined as a terrorist organisation in the UK but it wasn't one of my "many threads."

www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5509197-irgc-has-the-uk-determined-they-are-a-terrorist-organisation

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GentleSheep · 25/04/2026 19:21

Trump's cancelled Witkoff and Kushner's visit to Pakistan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd7j1g94d1lt

Martymcfly24 · 25/04/2026 19:56

Probably no point in the journey when the Iranians had already left before he made the big announcement.

MissyB1 · 25/04/2026 19:58

GentleSheep · 25/04/2026 19:21

Trump's cancelled Witkoff and Kushner's visit to Pakistan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd7j1g94d1lt

Well they would have been talking to themselves.

Twiglets1 · 25/04/2026 20:36

It’s all rather confusing especially as Abbas Araghchi is returning to Islamabad on Sunday or Monday, according to the BBC’s US partner, CBS News.

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GentleSheep · 25/04/2026 20:53

MissyB1 · 25/04/2026 19:58

Well they would have been talking to themselves.

A bit like Trump!

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/04/2026 23:54

GentleSheep · 25/04/2026 19:21

Trump's cancelled Witkoff and Kushner's visit to Pakistan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd7j1g94d1lt

Of course he has. Trump is playing hokey-cokey with Iran and losing. The US is becoming more globally isolated, impotent and unpopular with every week that passes.

But while Trump is losing face and cluster posting at stupid o'clock in the morning, good people all over are losing their livelihoods, homes, parents, children and lives.😒

Islandsofsand · 26/04/2026 16:08

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/04/2026 23:54

Of course he has. Trump is playing hokey-cokey with Iran and losing. The US is becoming more globally isolated, impotent and unpopular with every week that passes.

But while Trump is losing face and cluster posting at stupid o'clock in the morning, good people all over are losing their livelihoods, homes, parents, children and lives.😒

I am reading more analysts saying that Trump is losing against Iran but he has surrounded himself by people who don’t dare / can’t tell him this.

This is really interesting podcast with a professor from US. Essentially-

Iran can continue to pose a problem despite a significant amount of its missiles being taken out.

That Israel did not give US much of an option after the decided to kill the Israeli leadership. Trump had stated that the negotiations had been going well prior to then!

Iran has been able to increase it’s soft political power through this.

Trump’s comments to erase Iranian civilisation are going to increase desire for a nuclear weapon.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3baDLcaxbfUgHdH27cETAM?si=jhpNhND9Tsa1nkpzEQgxWw&pi=04J3NamFS4ORM&t=2701

The Iran War Expert: The Most Dangerous Stage Begins Now

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · Episode

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3baDLcaxbfUgHdH27cETAM?pi=04J3NamFS4ORM&si=jhpNhND9Tsa1nkpzEQgxWw&t=2701

Islandsofsand · 26/04/2026 16:14

@TooBigForMyBoots
US have lost so much soft power. The lack of allies becoming involved, even the lack of supportive comments by allies - to me, seems to demonstrate this. The U.S. does appears isolated- with only Israel by its side, but Israel have their own interests which don’t entirely align with US’s. Israel by wanting to take out the Iranian leadership didn’t want US to negotiate with Iran prior to this war commencing.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/04/2026 17:13

Islandsofsand · 26/04/2026 16:14

@TooBigForMyBoots
US have lost so much soft power. The lack of allies becoming involved, even the lack of supportive comments by allies - to me, seems to demonstrate this. The U.S. does appears isolated- with only Israel by its side, but Israel have their own interests which don’t entirely align with US’s. Israel by wanting to take out the Iranian leadership didn’t want US to negotiate with Iran prior to this war commencing.

It is isolated. The whole world has realised that the US is at best an unreliable ally, at worst, an expensive, warmongering danger. So Iran are taking advantage of that in the Gulf and beyond.

Abbas Araghchi is on a tour. He's done Pakistan, Oman and will be in Moscow this week. Meanwhile no one is entertaining, nevermind supporting, Trump and his global lunacy.

RedTagAlan · 26/04/2026 17:24

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/04/2026 17:13

It is isolated. The whole world has realised that the US is at best an unreliable ally, at worst, an expensive, warmongering danger. So Iran are taking advantage of that in the Gulf and beyond.

Abbas Araghchi is on a tour. He's done Pakistan, Oman and will be in Moscow this week. Meanwhile no one is entertaining, nevermind supporting, Trump and his global lunacy.

Who would partner with the US now given that Trump can change his mind in an instant.

Twiglets1 · 26/04/2026 17:27

Why is everyone so obsessed with the US but not Iran?

Have Iran gained any new partners or allies in the war?

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TopPocketFind · 26/04/2026 17:37

Because the USA are supposed to be the 'good guys'?

They, alongside Israel, started this war that is affecting all of us.

Notonthestairs · 26/04/2026 17:37

For the fairly obvious reason Iran wasn’t a UK ally.
And that Trump and MAGA have insulted the UK’s armed forces and NATO and followed it up with demanding our Armed Forces involvement.
And because the choice to go to war has destabilised the world economy & shows no sign of ending.
(also threatening Greenland etc).

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/04/2026 17:42

RedTagAlan · 26/04/2026 17:24

Who would partner with the US now given that Trump can change his mind in an instant.

No one. Trump has thrown he Iranian opposition and the Kurds and the CIA working in the region under the bus in his late night tweets. The leaders of the Gulf States had their eyes well and truly opened when Trump went after Bin Salman Al Saud in Miami a couple of weeks ago.

No one trusts the US anymore. They have lost soft power, strong alliances and security contacts. And as I said, Iran is taking advantage of all this.

Islandsofsand · 26/04/2026 17:51

Twiglets1 · 26/04/2026 17:27

Why is everyone so obsessed with the US but not Iran?

Have Iran gained any new partners or allies in the war?

US who joined Israel to bomb Iran and who should be in charge of the what happens next?

What have you to say about Iran that is anyway controversial? Please tell us and we can consider?

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