Trump is desperate. How can he resolve the Iran shitshow?

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He is flailing, desperate and increasingly unhinged. Weakening the USA, alienating allies and strengthening the enemies of democracy with every step.

How can he fix this?
Can he fix it at all?

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Re re education maybe controlling the school system with international over serers would have been more effective in Palestine.

Teaching non secular normal education

The UK France, Italy, Germany, Canada, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Japan, Romania, Iceland, Sweden, Greece, Norway and the EU have all signed the joint statement of the Middle East conflict

We call upon all sides to implement the ceasefire, including in Lebanon.

@RedTagAlan Palestine has been a problem for so long it seems impossible to solve.

In the long run I agree with people arguing for a two state solution.

At the moment - not a chance. Not while Hamas are in charge and are acting like the terrorists they are. I wouldn't disagree with people equally saying - it can't happen while Netanyahu is charge especially considering the more extremist members of his party.

Netanyahu can be voted out and will be one day. Hamas need to go too (in my opinion) as we need more moderate leaders on both sides to negotiate in good faith for a two state solution.

But it is possible for the IRGC who have all the money in the world for offensive actions, not just within Iran but also to fund other terrorists in other countries such as Gaza and Lebanon.
On one hand you are highlighting that the IRGC are terrorists and a brutal regime who kill their own citizens, and on the other suggest that they should care enough about their own civilians to keep them safe and use their funding to protect them. They don't, their priority is keeping the regime intact, but as I've already said just because they don't protect their civilians doesn't mean Israelis offensive in these countries is not illegal, disproportionate, unethical and demonstrates a complete lack of will to keep innocent civilians safe.

Call all US military personnel home due to a chronic outbreak of bone spurs?

I did rather take it as a given that it was generally known that there are not many Nazis today (relative to WW2) I apologize for not putting that in. I was thinking I don't really want the discussion to deflect to definitions of who is a Nazi today.

So, any thoughts on the crux my post ? The root cause and removal of ?

Don't know why you tagged me in this?

It's fair that all these countries want the ceasefire implemented, including a ceasefire in Lebanon (whether that was part of the original ceasefire or not).

I would like to see that too.

The trouble is, it's up to Israel to agree to do it as according to them and the US, they only agreed to stop attacking Iran not Lebanon.

Behind the scenes, I imagine Trump and co are putting pressure on Israel to agree to stop attacking Lebanon. It would definitely be part of any permanent ceasefire but it remains to be seen if Israel will back off now, or not.

I replied more on that part of your post at 11.21 today.

I tagged you by accident

He is a foolish man, who changes his mind like the average person, he fed the public lies claiming to care about the citizens of Iran.
America and Israel are hated around the world. The truth will come out.
People are not falling for it anymore.

A normal education would have been an amazing start and could have given the children of Gaza more hope of leading a productive life than just being prepared via propaganda of being another generation of fodder for Hamas in their crusade to destroy Israel, regardless to the cost to human life.

Fair enough.

I thought women and men / boys and girls were educated to a high standard in Gaza in comparison to some other Middle East countries.
Qualified journalists, Doctors and nurses have been educated in Gaza throughout the conflict.

Yay to Pakistan who mediates between Iran and Israel despite not officially recognising Israel. Also Yay to them for having nukes and not nuking Israel.

But ... Pakistan may not be the most neutral country in the world to mediate if they don't even officially recognise Israel? That could be relevant considering we have a situation at the moment where we have the US & Israel saying one thing about the truce deal - and Pakistan & Iran on the other.

Give over fgs, pure Israeli propaganda, Palestinians in Gaza are well educated but they are oppressed and occupied stop trying to whitewash the reality. What future have the children of Gaza now? What future did they have pre October 7th? To suggest it's down to their education is offensive and to suggest that ordinary civilians in Gaza view their children as fodder for Hamas is disgusting especially considering they have been maimed starved and murdered by the IDF.

Teaching Hate in Palestinian Schools

As part of the Gaza peace efforts, many governments are pressing hard for the Palestinian Authority (PA) to have a central role in building a new Gaza. After a generation of Hamas rule, one of the key elements of any new Gaza will be what is taught in its schools. Is the PA fit to run those schools? The answer can be found in what is being taught today in PA-run schools in the West Bank.

And the answer is that hatred of Israel and Jews, and glorification of violence, are being taught. The Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se), analyzes schoolbooks from dozens of countries. It has just released a new 400-page study analyzing 290 textbooks and 71 teachers’ guides in PA-run schools—and has found that no reforms are underway to deal with previous findings of content that promotes violence and incites hatred.

The CEO of IMPACT-se, Marcus Sheff, said that “Virulent antisemitism, the glorification of jihad, and incitement to violence remain deeply embedded across all grades of Palestinian Authority textbooks.” As the report summarizes, “antisemitism remains a central feature of the curriculum. Hate and collective accusations specifically directed toward Jewish people appear across grades and subjects…. Religiously motivated violence is promoted and celebrated…. Science, mathematics and grammar exercises are politicized to transmit hostility and normalize violence…. Maps and language in Palestinian textbooks erase Israel entirely….”

https://www.cfr.org/articles/teaching-hate-palestinian-schools

I am unsure what your point is Twiglets1 other than justifying Israel's actions

I didn't say the dire situation for the children of Gaza is exclusively "down to their education" did I?

What I said was "A normal education would have been an amazing start"

Neither did I suggest that "ordinary civilians in Gaza view their children as fodder for Hamas" - it was very clear I meant that the authorities are preparing children to be fodder for Hamas by indoctrinating them for school age onwards.

The offensive part is you twisting my words when I never mentioned ordinary civilians and they are not to be blamed for the school system in Gaza.

Youth literacy rate is very high. I’d bet it is higher than areas in Ireland and the UK.

Absolutely 💯

While completely ignoring the issue in Israel with how they view Palestinians

The offensive part is you twisting my words

I'm not twisting your words. You said them. And a lot of what you are saying is what the IDF use to justify killing them so yes I do find it offensive and I do think you are whitewashing Israel's part in this.

I would argue in the Middle East, the problem is Israel

Agree

Oh dear
so much for reporting the facts and being impartial
How sad how some view an entire population

Maybe but that's not the point. I was responding to another poster who mentioned teaching a normal curriculum in Gaza, and I agree with them that a normal education would be better for Palestinian children. This doesn't sound like a great curriculum to me: Religiously motivated violence is promoted and celebrated…. Science, mathematics and grammar exercises are politicized to transmit hostility and normalize violence…. Maps and language in Palestinian textbooks erase Israel entirely….”

It's because I want better for the children that I want them to receive a more neutral education rather than one where, as the report states “antisemitism remains a central feature of the curriculum".

This is not helpful to them or Israel and it works against what I think most of us want on here which is a two state solution one day.