Trump is desperate. How can he resolve the Iran shitshow?

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He is flailing, desperate and increasingly unhinged. Weakening the USA, alienating allies and strengthening the enemies of democracy with every step.

How can he fix this?
Can he fix it at all?

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Yeah right cos Trump holds all the cards

My point is - what was the point of this invasion? Total fuck up from the US and unbelievable they are claiming a victory. Absolute morons.

Oh! You do think that Iran will be getting everything they want in their 10 point plan ... I'll remind you of that when they publish the eventual peace deal.

No I don’t think they’ll get what they want, but the US won’t get anything of benefit either.

What concerns me the most is the pain and hardship inflicted on Iranian and Lebanese civilians multiple times over, because of morons in the US

Given that Trump is talking about doing a Joint venture with Iran to collect the tolls, I can't see him wanting to dump that bit. Those old $$$$ signs in his eyes. And if he wants to make money, it's likely he will need to lift the sanctions and pressure others to remove proscriptions.

I reckon Trump has just seen an alternate to his tariffs. Esp given that his SCOTUS said they were not legal. And he can use it against leverage. " French tanker ? Macron ? $15 mil. Argentina ? Free "

Neither side will get everything they want, obviously.

They will both get some concessions which will allow face saving/both to claim victory.

Iran has shown that they can quite easily control the SoH if they don’t get what they want. Depends how far they want to push it.

Yes ... but they agreed to a temporary ceasefire that will hopefully lead to a permanent ceasefire, so had their own reasons for wanting to end the war.

Probably didn't fancy taking a chance that Trump was bluffing when he threatened to destroy their power plants, bridges and other infrastructure.

Israel is still bombing Lebanon

Trumps was planning a destruction of a civilization and you think they should have called his bluff?

No I definitely don't think that they should have called his bluff re the targeting of power plants and bridges. They did the right thing in agreeing to a temporary ceasefire - even if it took crazy rhetoric to get them there.

Yes they are and Netanyahu's office said on X that The two-weeks ceasefire does not include Lebanon.

Hopefully a permanent ceasefire will include Lebanon, that is something for the negotiators to work on.

As Trump is very interested in making the toll charge a joint Iran-US venture, I am sure he will have a word with Netanyahu.

From making genocidal threats to becoming business partners in 24 hours

They need to find a venue for the talks. Below from CNN just now.

And no, I am not putting problems in the way. They will find somewhere. I just find this ironic. Iran have very good reason to be selective of where. And it seems the US are understanding that the precedents they have set might not be all that good after all.

"Trump casts doubt on Vance attending peace talks, citing security concerns

By Aileen Graef and Kristen Holmes

President Donald Trump said today that the direct peace talks with Iran will happen “very soon” but was unsure if Vice President JD Vance will attend.
“We’ll have Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, JD — maybe JD, I don’t know. There’s a question of safety, security,” Trump said of the planned talks in Islamabad.
A source familiar with the planning told CNN that officials were no longer making preparations for the vice president to attend the in-person talks this week. Given the precarious nature of the ongoing negotiations, that decision could still change, the source noted.
The US, Iran and Israel agreed to a two-week ceasefire on Tuesday while they pursue a long-term deal to end the war."

I thought they had agreed on Islamabad as a place to hold negotiations?

Too dangerous. No idea. There was that thing at the start where US contractors in Pakistan killed 16 I think. At a US consulate. Attackers or protesters ? Not for here.

Anyway, something that has been obvious has just been confirmed by CNN just now. Clip below. Different hymn sheets.

"Iranian-released peace proposal differed from plan Trump called a basis to negotiate, official says
By Dana Bash
When Donald Trump announced a two-week cease fire with Iran yesterday, he said the US had received a 10-point peace proposal that he believed was a “workable basis on which to negotiate.”
But when Iran later released a 10-point proposal to reporters, it was different from the one to which Trump was referring, a White House official told CNN today.
The extent and nature of the differences was not immediately clear. The White House official did not elaborate."

Question is, how did this happen? My suspicion is that Trump made up his own. But I am sure your thoughts will be different.

No problem, It can hopefully work out.

So I wonder if there is now any shred of embarrassment or awkwardness from those posters suggesting that the US would be launching nukes against Iran today.

Iran and the US agreed to a temporary ceasefire
We can't know what we can’t know

I wonder if there’s any shred of embarrassment from Trump supporters that you can’t beleive a word he says

Why would anyone be embarrassed for not believing that it was 'just scaremongering'?

Fwiw, I beleive the threat was real.

I am not sure who should be feeling awkward and embarrassed today. Trump is the one shouting he would destroy Iran and actually the so called deal he has now is not a win for Trump, it’s more of a win for Iran if you look at the details.

Really good analysis of a positive and lasting way forward

I definitely thought it was a very real possibility. And I am not embarrassed at all. Or awkward. In fact, I would say of all the people most likely to use one in the next few years it is Trump.

Did you miss the bit from a few months back where he said he wants to start testing again ? He likes big things.

Trump instructs Pentagon to start testing nuclear weapons ‘on an equal basis’ with Russia and China | CNN Politics

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3miyfqw2z3s2q

Israel showing its displeasure with the ceasefire by raining bombs on Lebanon’s capital city

and he’s unhinged

Iranian state media says Iran is closing the Strait of Hormuz" because Israel is violating the peace process.