UN Security Council to vote on Strait of Hormuz

[Twiglets1]

The UN Security Council’s vote on a proposal to ensure the safety of ships in the Strait of Hormuz has been rescheduled from Friday to Saturday, according to media reports.

The council’s 15 members are set to vote on a resolution from Bahrain aimed at protecting commercial shipping in the critical waterway, which usually carries about one-fifth of global oil and natural gas supplies.

The Associated Press and Reuters news agencies have reported that a draft resolution includes text authorising countries “to use all defensive means necessary” to protect commercial shipping.

The proposal is considered unlikely to pass, as China, a veto-wielding permanent member of the council, has made it clear that it opposes any resolution that mentions the use of force.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/2/iran-war-live-trump-to-address-nation-tehran-denies-seeking-ceasefire

You have implied that multiple times and every time it has been explained to you how that is not the case.

Do we need to end posts now with 'that does not mean I support the IRGC'?

If you have any evidence of your claim that people here are supporting the IRGC, I hope you have reported that to MN

(and yes I know you didn't address me on this occassion)

Say what you want. Why would mn do anything anyway they’re not proscribed yet, but will be this year tg.

I returned the favour to the pp re their Trump post. It looks like they follow his words and tweets more than I do on a social media so they can work out what he means.

MN is very good at deleting pro Russian posters on the Ukraine thread, why wouldn't they do the same on these threads?

Idk ask them

I am not accusing anyone of supporting the IRCG

If I thought someone did, then I would report it.

They’re not proscribed yet, they will be this year.

Do as you like though.

Why? What could MN do when they are not a proscribed organisation in the UK yet?

Different situation to Hamas which people know they cannot openly support as proscribed organisation.

I guess it is difficult to report when you know it is untrue.

No one is asking you to report.. or to not follow Trump’s social media posts either.

It's very easy to report but no one would bother as supporting the IRGC is not against MN site rules.

Are you talking about reporting me ?

I have no idea what MN rules are regarding supporting the IRGC, but if it was against their rules would you be reporting posters you suspect of supporting a brutal theocratic organization because they disagree with your position on a war ?

Basically because they don't match your model of ideological standards/purity ?

Is that not what the IRGC do ? And other authoritarian regimes too? Likes of China is famous for that . Gotta adhere to the Party line.

Something like 75% of the worlds population live in authoritarian states. Is that not enough ?

Apologies if I have got that wrong. But there is deffo a theme on these threads. Disagree and you are automatically "one of them".

Only the pp brought up reporting not @Twiglets1no one is reporting you.

But when the org is proscribed later this year mnhq will delete posts that support them online, as they do for Hamas now.

I have to say I never thought that my advice of reporting rather then accusing was so contentious 😂

And you think people here post stuff supporting them ? I can't say I have seen any.

Do you think I support them ?

I was matching the energy of your you support Trump post.

Fair enough. You are not accusing me.

As a reminder of a post I made to you on another thread, 75% of the worlds population live in authoritarian countries. And I would hate to see the UK join them. in terms of freedom of speech being controlled, or even difference of opinion being frowned upon. Link below.

By the way, what do the polls say on UK public support for this war ?

Last poll I saw put UK support at about 28%. I don't support it, as I have made clear. So that puts me in the majority.

New “Tyranny Tracker” maps the world’s authori­tarian regimes (democracywithoutborders.org)

Me: It's very easy to report but no one would bother as supporting the IRGC is not against MN site rules.

You: Are you talking about reporting me ?

No I am not reporting anyone.

lol at the idea of the UK being put in the category of an authoritarian country.

You're entertaining sometimes, I'll give you that.

Unintentionally maybe but still.

I haven’t changed my view particularly but wouldn’t have said it if you hadn’t been accusatory and reductive in your post.

On support, separate out how bad the IRGC are to what should be done about it. It’s fine to agree they use oppressive and use hideous methods and not want the action now taken. Better than minimising what the IRGC do.

As for freedom of speech yes it’s good to protect it but you’re on a losing battle with terrorist proscription. It’s not something anyone will change politically. Are you in the U.K. or somewhere that doesn’t have the same?

So the French and Japanese maybe paying Iran's toll.booth ?

How soon before we are !?

Apologies if I have got that wrong. But there is deffo a theme on these threads. Disagree and you are automatically "one of them".

This 💯

Agreed. Frankly, this behaviour is somewhat....authoritarian.

If they are, they should not be. I thought the UK (and other Western countries) prided themselves on allowing free speech. It is authoriarian to disallow this, if it is the case.

The French voted against a UN security countil proposal by GCC for military action against Iran, alongside Russia and China.

That is why the French ship has been allowed through the SOH.

Meanwhile, the UK's Yvette Cooper has repeatedly condemned Iran for retaliating and blocking the SOH, which is having (v predictable) effects on the world economy. She has repeatedly failed to condemn Israel and the US for starting the war on Iran which has led to this. Multiple 'leaders' held a meeting yesterday and the waffled about 'diplomacy', something they appear to need help in defining.

Oh I don't know. Go to any "Reform" Thread and the theme there is that the UK is already authoritarian. All these anti hate speech laws etc limiting what people can say. I can see their point on some of that. But I don't go so far as to agree with Vance. "Reformists" also claim Starmer et all is a "commie", with commie plans.

JD Vance warns against UK going down 'dark path' of losing free speech during meeting with David Lammy | Politics News | Sky News

Then there is the "great replacement theory" that Trump and his acolytes say is happening in the UK and Europe. And of course trump warns non stop against Sir Sadiq, and Sharia law in the UK.

"But this economic decline is eclipsed by the real and more stark prospect of civilizational erasure. The larger issues facing Europe include activities of the European Union and other transnational bodies that undermine political liberty and sovereignty, migration policies that are transforming the continent and creating strife, censorship of free speech and suppression of political opposition, cratering birthrates, and loss of national identities and self-confidence. Should present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in 20 years or less. As such, it is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies. Many of these nations are currently doubling down on their present path. We want Europe to remain European, to regain its civilizational self-confidence, and to abandon its failed focus on regulatory suffocation."

Source for that quote:

2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf (whitehouse.gov)

And Trump himself is an authoritarian. And it is said the UK follows the US.

There is also a theme on Gender Critical threads that the UK is already authoritarian. The Government "ordering" people what to believe. Tweets being thought crimes.

To quote you : "lol at the idea of the UK being put in the category of an authoritarian country."

Rather depends on who one listens to/reads. The current resident of the Whitehouse is not saying lol.