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Conflict in the Middle East

Rubio on Al Jazerra states primary reason for war on Iran

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/03/2026 19:39

There's often been differences of why people think the US launched its attack on Iran.

Al Jazerra interview on currently, In which, Rubio clearly states and restated it was due to Iran's progress towards nuclear weapons. He stated that the US will never allow Iran to have nuclear weapons since the danger is too great.

He said there are outcomes that they would like such as regime change but the primary motive has always been to stop Iran from development of nuclear weapons.

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/03/2026 22:48

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 22:33

I don’t think any leader would think them having those weapons is a good idea.

Unfortunately, some will argue that they should have them if the US does. Crazy though that sounds.

They probably don't understand how Iran fund proxies in the middle east in several countries, or perhaps, not seen how they have attacked neighbouring countries that haven't attack them 🤔 such as Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, Saudi, Oman, a quite random firing of missiles in all directions points to their uncontrolled, erratic nature.

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EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 22:53

Ihatetomatoes · 30/03/2026 22:48

Unfortunately, some will argue that they should have them if the US does. Crazy though that sounds.

They probably don't understand how Iran fund proxies in the middle east in several countries, or perhaps, not seen how they have attacked neighbouring countries that haven't attack them 🤔 such as Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, Saudi, Oman, a quite random firing of missiles in all directions points to their uncontrolled, erratic nature.

Idk most will be against and even those like China can probably see Iran and nuclear weapons is a recipe for escalation and MAD.

cestlavielife · 30/03/2026 23:11

smallglassbottle · 30/03/2026 22:03

They didn't. Israel, emboldened by their success in Gaza, have taken the opportunity to sort out their age old adversary, Iran. An easily manipulated fool, aka Trump, is being used to facilitate this. It's a shame if US soldiers have to die in order to fight someone else's war, not to mention footing the bill.

Exactly.
Some people are vety naive

Ihatetomatoes · 30/03/2026 23:23

cestlavielife · 30/03/2026 23:11

Exactly.
Some people are vety naive

Different points of view don't require insults. You tend to get better responses by engaging in debate rather than describing those that disagree with you as 'naive'. None of us here know all the answers, including you. HTH going forward.

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/03/2026 23:25

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 22:53

Idk most will be against and even those like China can probably see Iran and nuclear weapons is a recipe for escalation and MAD.

I hope you are correct and the majority/most see nuclear weapons in Irans hands as a disaster.

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EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 23:30

Ihatetomatoes · 30/03/2026 23:23

Different points of view don't require insults. You tend to get better responses by engaging in debate rather than describing those that disagree with you as 'naive'. None of us here know all the answers, including you. HTH going forward.

I think even dictators like Putin or Kim Jong Un will have extreme desires like war or control, or Xi just long term economic expansion but they don’t want to be wiped out or see MAD. Iran is erratic in its own way.

Ihatetomatoes · 31/03/2026 10:23

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 23:30

I think even dictators like Putin or Kim Jong Un will have extreme desires like war or control, or Xi just long term economic expansion but they don’t want to be wiped out or see MAD. Iran is erratic in its own way.

Iran is very erratic as can be seen by attacks on their neighbours who weren't attacking them.

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Ihatetomatoes · 31/03/2026 10:26

smallglassbottle · 30/03/2026 22:03

They didn't. Israel, emboldened by their success in Gaza, have taken the opportunity to sort out their age old adversary, Iran. An easily manipulated fool, aka Trump, is being used to facilitate this. It's a shame if US soldiers have to die in order to fight someone else's war, not to mention footing the bill.

"Esfahan also contained 20 percent enriched uranium. Iran's total stock, excluding exempted 20 percent enriched uranium in TRR fuel in Tehran, as of mid-June 2025, was 245 kilograms, of which about 180 kilograms was in hexafluoride form (both uranium mass)."

Whats that for then?

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kickingcabbages · 31/03/2026 10:36

Ihatetomatoes · 31/03/2026 10:23

Iran is very erratic as can be seen by attacks on their neighbours who weren't attacking them.

Speaking as someone currently in one of those countries - Iran attacking the gulf is not ‘erratic’, it’s how they are exerting pressure on the US to stop the attacks. It is how they are still ‘in the game’ and surviving.

Ihatetomatoes · 31/03/2026 10:40

kickingcabbages · 31/03/2026 10:36

Speaking as someone currently in one of those countries - Iran attacking the gulf is not ‘erratic’, it’s how they are exerting pressure on the US to stop the attacks. It is how they are still ‘in the game’ and surviving.

So attacking friends to survive, is acceptable to Iran. Rather than agreement not to continue to enrich uranium and the aim for nuclear weapons. Interesting.

I feel for the surrounding countries that have been very tolerant of Iran to date. Good job they invested in defence equipment just in case.

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kickingcabbages · 31/03/2026 11:04

Ihatetomatoes · 31/03/2026 10:40

So attacking friends to survive, is acceptable to Iran. Rather than agreement not to continue to enrich uranium and the aim for nuclear weapons. Interesting.

I feel for the surrounding countries that have been very tolerant of Iran to date. Good job they invested in defence equipment just in case.

The US and Israel are causing huge destruction in Iran, they are playing one of the only cards they have. For this regime it’s an existential question, if they don’t fight they will no longer exist. Also, they were negotiating on nuclear weapons and the US started bombing them, it’s no wonder they don’t trust the US anymore.

I do not support Iran, I was hoping for regime change, but it’s facile to view the situation through a lens of ‘if they don’t do exactly what they’re told they are erratic/stupid’.

They are fighting with the means they have at their disposal, just as the US and Israel are. Personally I would love Iran to stop lobbing missiles at me, but to pretend I don’t understand why they are is to not understand warfare at all.

PS calling the Gulf countries ‘friends’ with Iran is also not accurate

Ihatetomatoes · 31/03/2026 14:45

kickingcabbages · 31/03/2026 11:04

The US and Israel are causing huge destruction in Iran, they are playing one of the only cards they have. For this regime it’s an existential question, if they don’t fight they will no longer exist. Also, they were negotiating on nuclear weapons and the US started bombing them, it’s no wonder they don’t trust the US anymore.

I do not support Iran, I was hoping for regime change, but it’s facile to view the situation through a lens of ‘if they don’t do exactly what they’re told they are erratic/stupid’.

They are fighting with the means they have at their disposal, just as the US and Israel are. Personally I would love Iran to stop lobbing missiles at me, but to pretend I don’t understand why they are is to not understand warfare at all.

PS calling the Gulf countries ‘friends’ with Iran is also not accurate

I think they are erratic. I don't think they are stupid.

The regime (or whomever leads it) or the commanders of the IRGC want to stay in control. They want to develop nuclear weapons. They don't want to stop. If they did, they could have halted enrichment of uranium but it appears they didn't. I don't want to keep posting the same thing but upthread an independent group confirms how much enriched uranium they have.

Maybe, Iran attacks it's neighbours because they want them involved, maybe they believe that by attacking countries not involved they will ask the US to leave the area, not going to happen. The US has strong relationships with many middle easterm countries who want peace int he wider area.

Personally, I'd love Iran to stop it's proxies from lobbing missiles around. Maybe, they might consider that.

Friends with Iran is the wrong term, I agree. Iran has few friends, which isn't surprising by the way it acts. Other middle eastern countries want better for their citizens, it's a shame that Iran doesn't appear to.

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