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Conflict in the Middle East

Should the international community sanction Israel over settler violence in West Bank?

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FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 20:03

The problem of Israeli terrorism is getting worse and worse. Just over the past few weeks amongst other things Israeli terrorists have killed multiple people, commited sexual assault, beaten and threatened to rape young Palestinian girls, continually attacked the residents and property of the only remaining fully Christian town in the West Bank, stolen 100s of sheep from the Bedouin community, beaten activists who are there to provide a protective presence to Palestinians, set fire to property.

Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves from this violent, rapidly escalating Israeli terrorism. They can't arrest and detain the Israeli terrorists. They are sitting ducks with no means of protecting themselves from beatings and sexual violence. Is it time that the international community steps in and sanctions Israel until they can control their obvious terrorism problem? What else can be done to try and protect innocent people from this escalating Israeli violence?

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Boolabus · 21/04/2026 09:21

I just saw that on the other thread, this has absolutely stunned me, there does not seem to be any depth of depravity and cruelty they will not sink to in their aim to get rid of Palestinians and assume complete control, it is like something from the middle ages.

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 09:37

cantgardenintherain · 21/04/2026 09:14

Yes there should be all kinds of sanctions applied for this evil. This morning it was reported in the Guardian that they are using sexual assault to force people out. Have the ruling forces of a country ever been more evil?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/21/israeli-soldiers-using-sexual-assault-to-force-palestinians-out-of-west-bank-report-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Yes, the ruling forces of many, many countries throughout history have been as evil, and more so. It's a humankind issue, not an exclusively Israeli issue.

If you believe Jews oops sorry Israelis are uniquely evil then you'll find yourself in some very, very unpleasant company.

Think it through.

Boolabus · 21/04/2026 09:44

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 09:37

Yes, the ruling forces of many, many countries throughout history have been as evil, and more so. It's a humankind issue, not an exclusively Israeli issue.

If you believe Jews oops sorry Israelis are uniquely evil then you'll find yourself in some very, very unpleasant company.

Think it through.

Yes, the ruling forces of many, many countries throughout history have been as evil, and more so. It's a humankind issue, not an exclusively Israeli issue.
Hmmm yes humankind is evil but most democtartic nations have systems in place to punish and imprison such evil acts by their soldiers, it is not state sponsored or condoned. That is the HUGE difference in this

The fact you can read that article and come up with a whataboutery excuse for it is revealing

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 10:17

Boolabus · 21/04/2026 09:44

Yes, the ruling forces of many, many countries throughout history have been as evil, and more so. It's a humankind issue, not an exclusively Israeli issue.
Hmmm yes humankind is evil but most democtartic nations have systems in place to punish and imprison such evil acts by their soldiers, it is not state sponsored or condoned. That is the HUGE difference in this

The fact you can read that article and come up with a whataboutery excuse for it is revealing

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I'm still utterly confused about why people think democratic nations should behave better than non democratic. Its almost as if theres one rule about whats acceptable for some people and another rule for others... isn't that a bit... paternalistic at best and racist at worst?

I don't buy it Boolabus.

All human races are capable of awful acts and cruelty and outstanding kindness and love.

With your twisting of my words on a different post and your obvious attempts to pointscore I won't be replying to you anyone. Don't worry, I know you won't mind or lose any sleep.

Boolabus · 21/04/2026 12:55

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 10:17

I'm still utterly confused about why people think democratic nations should behave better than non democratic. Its almost as if theres one rule about whats acceptable for some people and another rule for others... isn't that a bit... paternalistic at best and racist at worst?

I don't buy it Boolabus.

All human races are capable of awful acts and cruelty and outstanding kindness and love.

With your twisting of my words on a different post and your obvious attempts to pointscore I won't be replying to you anyone. Don't worry, I know you won't mind or lose any sleep.

I'm still utterly confused about why people think democratic nations should behave better than non democratic.

Then you don't understand what underpins the values of a democracy, if they don't abide by the standards they are not a democracy, so have no business calling themselves one and expecting to be treated as one. My point being that some people are evil and carry out evil acts but if the democratic nation and government does not put systems in place to prevent this or punish this there is a problem and the state is not abiding the principles of a democracy. Doesn't mean people will behave any better but it should mean the state steps in to protect its people from these perpetrators. No idea what you find confusing about this. I personally would not be happy living in a democratic state that would allow this depravity, each to their own I guess.

Core Principles of Democracy

  • Popular Sovereignty: Government authority is based on the consent of the people.
  • Citizen Participation: Voting in elections is the primary method of engagement.
  • Equality & Rule of Law: All citizens are equal before the law, with established legal frameworks protecting rights.
  • Majority Rule & Minority Rights: Decisions are made by majority vote while protecting the rights of minorities

your obvious attempts to pointscore
I am not trying to pointscore anything I am genuinely taken aback with your comments on this

Ellen2shoes · 21/04/2026 14:40

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 09:37

Yes, the ruling forces of many, many countries throughout history have been as evil, and more so. It's a humankind issue, not an exclusively Israeli issue.

If you believe Jews oops sorry Israelis are uniquely evil then you'll find yourself in some very, very unpleasant company.

Think it through.

What are you saying? If you think that these Israelis represent Jewish people, you have a serious problem.

Ellen2shoes · 21/04/2026 16:05

cantgardenintherain · 21/04/2026 09:14

Yes there should be all kinds of sanctions applied for this evil. This morning it was reported in the Guardian that they are using sexual assault to force people out. Have the ruling forces of a country ever been more evil?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/21/israeli-soldiers-using-sexual-assault-to-force-palestinians-out-of-west-bank-report-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

When this level of depravity is openly exercised, what must be happening behind locked doors? In prisons? Detention Centres? How can there be absolutely no international intervention - sanctions would be the very smallest step towards reining in this terror.

This was posted on another thread
Be warned that it’s a difficult read with some detailed descriptions
euromedmonitor.org/en/article/7022/%E2%80%9CAnother-genocide-behind-walls%E2%80%9D:-New-report-documents-testimonies-of-rape-and-sexual-violence-in-Israeli-prisons

cantgardenintherain · 21/04/2026 17:30

@dairydebris “He did it too” doesn’t cut it, I’m afraid. And if you are referring to the ultra right wing, I’m absolutely not that, although I believe that Netanyahu is.

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 17:34

Ellen2shoes · 21/04/2026 14:40

What are you saying? If you think that these Israelis represent Jewish people, you have a serious problem.

Oh fgs. Of course these people represent SOME Jewish people, because they are in fact themselves Jewish people.
Some Jewish people are violent criminals. Just like some people of all races.
My point if you choose to engage with it or not is that Israelis are not uniquely evil amongst all races in the world. If you yourself believe they are, perhaps some reading and soul searching is in order.

Boolabus · 21/04/2026 17:43

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 17:34

Oh fgs. Of course these people represent SOME Jewish people, because they are in fact themselves Jewish people.
Some Jewish people are violent criminals. Just like some people of all races.
My point if you choose to engage with it or not is that Israelis are not uniquely evil amongst all races in the world. If you yourself believe they are, perhaps some reading and soul searching is in order.

But you're refusing to engage with the point that it is the state supporting and condoning it that is the concern and the main issue with this, not just individual bad apples it is greater than that and that is the reason for the outcry. If these soldiers were arrested and charged for their sexual assault and child sex abuse, people would accept your point that
Some Jewish people are violent criminals

But the abuse is endemic in the IDF from the top down. If it wasn't the individual soldiers and units involved would be charged and convicted.

dairydebris · 21/04/2026 17:46

cantgardenintherain · 21/04/2026 17:30

@dairydebris “He did it too” doesn’t cut it, I’m afraid. And if you are referring to the ultra right wing, I’m absolutely not that, although I believe that Netanyahu is.

Don't twist my words please.

I didn't say 'he did it too'.

You said- 'Have the ruling forces of a country ever been more evil?'

And I said in a direct answer to your question, yes they have, and a glancing peek at history would tell you the same.

If you feel the ruling forces of Israel are uniquely evil in the face of many contradictory facts then you need to examine why you think this.

mehemalryzid · 21/04/2026 17:55

cantgardenintherain · 21/04/2026 09:14

Yes there should be all kinds of sanctions applied for this evil. This morning it was reported in the Guardian that they are using sexual assault to force people out. Have the ruling forces of a country ever been more evil?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/21/israeli-soldiers-using-sexual-assault-to-force-palestinians-out-of-west-bank-report-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

You actually think the Israeli government are more evil than, say, the Nazis?

cantgardenintherain · 21/04/2026 18:15

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Boolabus · 21/04/2026 19:18

FloralDeerPattern · 21/04/2026 19:04

@Ellen2shoes not a great update. Italy and Germany blocked attempts to suspend the trade agreement.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-reject-suspend-israel-association-agreement/

Disappointing but not surprising

Boolabus · 21/04/2026 19:20

@cantgardenintherain think there was a bit of a trap set up for you there with your response to a question deleted.

oopsBSoD · 21/04/2026 19:55

Boolabus · 21/04/2026 19:20

@cantgardenintherain think there was a bit of a trap set up for you there with your response to a question deleted.

What do you mean a trap?

Ellen2shoes · 21/04/2026 23:17

FloralDeerPattern · 21/04/2026 19:04

@Ellen2shoes not a great update. Italy and Germany blocked attempts to suspend the trade agreement.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-reject-suspend-israel-association-agreement/

So disappointing.

The ‘violent settlers’ to be sanctioned are frontliners for the endorsement of extremist government policy in the WB but I suppose this could at least the reverse sanctions that were lifted last year.

Clinging on to shreds of hope:

“There is a whole range of possibilities," said Spain's Albares. "If someone wants to put another one on the table, why not?”

Kallas raised the possibility of adopting "measures that require a qualified majority of votes," among them targeted sanctions or partial measures focused on trade.

While the tide is turning, it’s just not enough, and the processes are devastatingly slow for the Palestinian people.

Trade trumps humanity.

FloralDeerPattern · Today 08:15

It seems like the violence is escalating to terrifying proportions. A school in the West Bank was attacked by settlers who were being helped by the IDF. 2 Palestinians including a 13 or 14 year old shot dead. The description from the school principle is just awful, trying to evacuate 460 terrified children among gunfire from both settlers and the IDF. It sounds like absolute chaos.

www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/world/middleeast/palestinians-killed-israeli-shooting-west-bank-school.html

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Boolabus · Today 08:30

It seems like the violence is escalating to terrifying proportions.
It really feels that way @FloralDeerPattern and there is a new aggressiveness to it which is scary. It is no surprise that tensions are so high when 2025 was a record-breaking year for illegal settlement expansion, with 41 new illegal settlements approved, and 165+ outposts established after October 2023, there are roughly 224-350 outposts (unauthorized by the Israeli government, though often protected by the military).

Twiglets1 · Today 08:41

Agree that the Israel government needs to tackle the increased violence used by the extremist Settlers against Palestinians.

Especially since they are expecting the Lebanese government to be able to control the Hezbollah extremists in Lebanon.

It would be an easier job for Netanyahu to stop the Settlers and punish any IDF soldiers assisting the Settlers. He is too afraid of losing the support of right wing extremists within his coalition party to do this, but he undoubtedly should.

Boolabus · Today 09:58

Twiglets1 · Today 08:41

Agree that the Israel government needs to tackle the increased violence used by the extremist Settlers against Palestinians.

Especially since they are expecting the Lebanese government to be able to control the Hezbollah extremists in Lebanon.

It would be an easier job for Netanyahu to stop the Settlers and punish any IDF soldiers assisting the Settlers. He is too afraid of losing the support of right wing extremists within his coalition party to do this, but he undoubtedly should.

I agree they need to stop the settlers what I don't agree with is your reason given as to why he won't:
He is too afraid of losing the support of right wing extremists within his coalition party to do this, but he undoubtedly should.

I believe he is fully behind them and supports what they are doing to create a greater Israel and get rid Paletsinas in the West Bank.

RedTagAlan · Today 10:23

Boolabus · Today 09:58

I agree they need to stop the settlers what I don't agree with is your reason given as to why he won't:
He is too afraid of losing the support of right wing extremists within his coalition party to do this, but he undoubtedly should.

I believe he is fully behind them and supports what they are doing to create a greater Israel and get rid Paletsinas in the West Bank.

Yup. What a great advert for democracy eh.

Basically saying, "Hey Iran see here. Overthrow your theocratic regime, and replace it with a good clear democracy. Then an even smaller number of right wing extremists can hold your entire society hostage as they force their abhorrent policies on everyone despite the very best efforts of that really nice fella you elected as PM".

BerthaPotts · Today 11:10

To answer the OP, Yes, the international community should sanction Israel over settler violence. It is often state backed with little to no repercussions for the violent perpetrators.

Twiglets1 · Today 11:15

Boolabus · Today 09:58

I agree they need to stop the settlers what I don't agree with is your reason given as to why he won't:
He is too afraid of losing the support of right wing extremists within his coalition party to do this, but he undoubtedly should.

I believe he is fully behind them and supports what they are doing to create a greater Israel and get rid Paletsinas in the West Bank.

Ok so we disagree on Netanyahu’s reasons 🤷🏼‍♀️