I need to say this out loud

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As a British citizen I am disgusted in the utter cowardice of my own government at the moment. If you are an American citizen please believe that there are people in the UK who have no respect for the way we are distancing ourselves from what is happening in the Middle East.
Your government has backbone and courage and wants to do the right thing for all our children’s futures.
I applaud Trump for standing up for his country, military, citizens of Iran…the world, and he doesn't care who he might offend in doing so.
It’s such a pity the same can’t be said for our ‘leader’. I am actually ashamed of my country at this moment in time. I truly hope this changes over the coming days/weeks.

Yes so my point that Iranians are probably more at risk now than ever from both the regime and external bombings stands. I would liken it to a DV situation when the abuser gets wind that his victim may be making plans to escape the situation, things generally escalate and the abuse increases in intensity.

There were many posters on these threads criticising posters who were expressing concern over what was happening and accusing them of being supportive of the Iranian murderous regime, unfortunately it looks like their concerns were justified.

This is how I feel. I don’t want any part in bombing Iran or anyone else. I’m not in anyway impressed by countries that remove other countries leaders by force. As for bombing primary schools? There are no words to convey my disgust.

Yet another batshit bollocks conspiracy theory posted in an attempt by the poster to a) think of themselves that somehow they are superior and "in the know" compared to ordinary folk and b) in the hope that if you throw out the same shit enough times then maybe some of it will stick and create doubt in some gullible minds.

Either way and unless you have any credible evidence to back it up, it needs to be exposed to what it really is narcissistic batshit bollocks conspiracy theories.

I can't stand Starmer or anything he stands for, but in this instance he is right. Why should we get involved in a war which has nothing whatsoever to do with us?

I’m pigsick of fighting other people’s battles.

Why? Imperialism isn’t a great idea.

"Batshit bollocks" perfectly describes Trump.

They may be at more risk at this exact moment in time but as long as he war doesn’t drag on, they will hopefully be in a better position at the end than if the regime went unchallenged.

The DV victim in your scenario is right to try to escape. And the Iranian regime is inflicting their violence on thousands of people not just one person.

Absolute rubbish.

Well if you’re in the UK - you aren’t.

Starmer is getting us involved in a defensive capacity only.

Should have told trump go fuck himself

Regime change in the US would benefit us all a lot more.
Anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head heart and soul examined.

And yet he's muddied the waters by calling on Iranians to rise up against the regime, while saying he's willing to make a deal with that same regime. The Iranian's trusted him a few weeks ago when he told them help was coming if they kept up the protests and the regime slaughtered them in their tens of thousands.

Not in my name OP!

Oh dear. Ridiculous.

Starmer is right. I suspect anyone who disagrees isn't old enough to remember Iraq. Or is a Trump bot.

I doubt you will bother reading, but Iran has been behind numerous attempts of terrorist attacks in the UK.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-10413/CBP-10413.pdf

They support Hezbollah, The Houthis, Hamas etc al in attacks in the middle east.

They have slaughtered thousands of their own people.

The school you mention, there are credible accounts that it wasn't Israel or the US.

Many Iranian people who have managed to escape can testify to how awful the regime is.

However, I believe Starmer's position to currently not get involved is correct.

I’m not disagreeing he has muddied the water. Not here to defend everything Trump does, he’s quite often indefensible.

I replied to a poster who said it’s not clear what the war is for. The US have outlined their main objectives.

I'm the poster you replied to. They've stated their objectives but Trump makes it impossible to believe them.

I support Starmer. Nobody wants to be part of a war

Starmer has made exactly all the right moves. The US should be ashamed of themselves.

Ahhh - the tolerant radical left. "I'm right , you're wrong and if you dare disagree with me then you must be stupid."

And you think that Trump is the one that's intolerant??

He has exactly the backbone that we need. He’s being calm and sensible in the middle of loads of nut cases. And we are definitely no more at risk from Hamas than we ever were - considering they are the ones who fund terrorist attacks in the UK and always have done. Your son is not as clever as you think he is.

Not all left wingers are tolerant. Not sure where you get that from? I’m not. Trump is a dangerous despot. He’s causing problems on so many levels it’s insane.

Most 12 year olds are still parroting their parents views, by the time he's 16 he'll know everything and should definitely be allowed to vote. 😶

Hmm I think the UK will have no longer get support from the US the next time the UK tries to block weapons sales to Argentina.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/11/uk-denies-mileis-claim-of-talks-over-falklands-era-ban-on-argentina-arms-sales

Oh bless.