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Conflict in the Middle East

US and Israel strike Iran. (title edited by MNHQ at request of the OP)

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Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 06:46

Israel attacked Iran early on Saturday morning, saying it had “launched a pre-emptive strike against Iran to remove threats to the state of Israel,” according to a military spokesman.

Israel closed its airspace and declared a state of emergency, in anticipation of
Iranian drone and missile strikes in response.

Explosions were heard in Tehran on Saturday, Iranian media reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/israel-launches-attack-on-iran-as-explosions-heard-in-tehran

Israel launches attack on Iran as explosions heard in Tehran

Blasts heard in Tehran as Israel declares state of emergency in anticipation of retaliatory missile strikes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/israel-launches-attack-on-iran-as-explosions-heard-in-tehran

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HappyFace2025 · 28/02/2026 18:56

Terrribletwos · 28/02/2026 18:31

Who are the ordinary folk in Iran though?. Isn't it likely that a power vacuum, just as in Syria, will just create another grab for power by interested groups? I laugh sadly when people say the "people " will be able to take over. Its never ever like that.

I don't anticipate 'the people will take over'
No doubt there have been talks going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to.

Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 18:57

GentleSheep · 28/02/2026 18:54

Dubai's Burj Khalifa tower (tallest building in the world) missed being hit by a missle by a whisker. Can you imagine if that was hit?

The Islamic Republic seem to be firing drones wildly into residential areas - a 5 star hotel in Dubai is on fire (the Fairmont), several residential buildings in Bahrain have been hit by drones and Kuwait’s international airport.

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Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 18:59

Lebanon signals plans to stay out of conflict

Lebanon has signalled it will not look to escalate the conflict by supporting Iran’s retaliatory strikes against Israeli and US targets.

Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam said he would not accept anyone dragging Lebanon into “adventures that threaten its security and unity”, in a veiled message to Hezbollah.

Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed terrorist group, said that it had been told by Michael Issa, the US ambassador, that Israel would not escalate against Lebanon as long as there are no hostile acts from the Lebanese side.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/28/israel-launches-attack-against-iran/

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Terrribletwos · 28/02/2026 18:59

dapsnotplimsolls · 28/02/2026 18:41

Oh absolutely. I'm just not sure there'll be full democracy straight away.

There will be a vacuum and the usual groups entering and vying for power. It certainly won't be "the people" who will have a say.

dapsnotplimsolls · 28/02/2026 18:59

Iran's going to have to wheel out the Ayatollah soon or people will assume he's dead and act accordingly.

dapsnotplimsolls · 28/02/2026 19:00

Terrribletwos · 28/02/2026 18:59

There will be a vacuum and the usual groups entering and vying for power. It certainly won't be "the people" who will have a say.

I can't claim to know much about Iran's opposition but I don't think there are the tribal/religious issues that we saw in Libya/Iraq.

Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 19:02

Israel has urged Iranians to “immediately evacuate” the Isfahan region in the centre of the country ahead of imminent strikes.

The Israeli military told civilians to flee ahead of an attack on “military infrastructure” “in a few minutes” time.

“Urgent alert to all people located in the ‘Gey’ industrial zone in the Isfahan region... in a few minutes, the Israeli army will attack military infrastructure in this zone,” the military posted on its Persian-language X account, along with a map showing the targeted area, warning people to “immediately evacuate this area”.

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notimagain · 28/02/2026 19:03

Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 18:57

The Islamic Republic seem to be firing drones wildly into residential areas - a 5 star hotel in Dubai is on fire (the Fairmont), several residential buildings in Bahrain have been hit by drones and Kuwait’s international airport.

Looks like (from.sources such as aircraft tracking apps) that not unsurprisingly there's some GPS jamming going on - that might explain some of what we're seeing.

Terrribletwos · 28/02/2026 19:03

Maybe not tribal but definitely different ideological factions that will operate for power...as always.

CreamolaFoam26 · 28/02/2026 19:04

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 17:19

The US and Iran were in the middle of negotiations

article 26th feb.

‘ technical-level discussions would take place next week in Vienna.’

I posted a link to this earlier but no one picked up on it.

MissConductUS · 28/02/2026 19:05

notimagain · 28/02/2026 15:42

Oh I get the theory but it's still fairly unusual...probably fair enough to chuck ALCMs through in daytime but it's rolling a dice a bit more than necessary for crewed ops (so were there any?).

Methinks one reason for striking at that time of day was it might catch people of interest (relatively) out in the open, rather than hunkered down at night.

The IAF has announced that the operation started with crewed strikes. TWZ is updating its coverage every few hours.

www.twz.com/news-features/iran-is-under-attack

UPDATE: 1:36 PM EST—
The Israeli Air Force says that 200 fighters took part in the initial wave of strikes on Iran this morning, and that 500 individual targets were struck “near-simultaneously.”

“This is the largest strike sortie in the history of the Israeli Air Force, executed after close planning with high-quality intelligence, synchronizing hundreds of aircraft simultaneously,” according to a statement from the IDF. This “enabled the expansion of air superiority over Iranian skies and caused a severe blow to the regime’s central offensive capability, the launch sites in western Iran.”

Notonthestairs · 28/02/2026 19:15

dapsnotplimsolls · 28/02/2026 19:00

I can't claim to know much about Iran's opposition but I don't think there are the tribal/religious issues that we saw in Libya/Iraq.

Iran also has opposition networks composed of ethnic minorities—including Kurdish, Baluchi, Ahwazi Arab, and Azerbaijani groups—that have substantial organizational capacity. Their leaders call for not only the end of clerical rule but also the recognition of minority linguistic and cultural rights, the decentralization of power, and meaningful autonomy. But these organizations are usually wary of partnering. The former fear that the latter will replace the Islamic Republic with another Persian-dominated, exclusive, and centralized government, whereas and the latter fear that the former will empower secessionist movements or invite foreign meddling along Iran’s porous and conflict-prone borders.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/irans-divided-opposition

worth reading the Foreign Affairs article.
coordinated opposition is not necessarily insurmountable but by no means a given.

And this
https://apnews.com/article/iran-iraq-kurds-pahlavi-6beae57e9fdc3546a61ec8f1432eef4b#

Karim Parwizi, member of the leadership council of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, PDKI, gives an interview in Irbil, Iraq, Friday, Feb. 27, 2026. (AP Photo/Rashid Yahya)

Tensions between son of Iran's last shah and Kurdish dissidents show cracks in Iranian opposition

Iran’s exiled crown prince Reza Pahlavi is clashing with Kurdish Iranian dissident groups, exposing splits in the Iranian opposition.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-iraq-kurds-pahlavi-6beae57e9fdc3546a61ec8f1432eef4b#

mids2019 · 28/02/2026 19:17

If we see the result of the overthrow of tyrannical communist regimes in Romania, Poland, East Germany, Ukraine 40 years ago we have seen emerging healthy democracies emerging. I see a lot of doom mongering about the fall of the regime in terms of new governance but I think we should be positive.

CreamolaFoam26 · 28/02/2026 19:25

@mids none of the countries you’ve mentioned were up against Islam and the more extreme variants of it. In fact I’d say communism was probably a bit of a doodle compared to hardline Islam

Fleur405 · 28/02/2026 19:27

Am I understanding Netanyahu’s latest comments correctly that Israel believes Khomeini has been killed? If so this is a huge development but there may not be a peaceful transition of power. Who is in charge now and indiscriminately firing missiles all over the place?

Mercurial123 · 28/02/2026 19:27

mids2019 · 28/02/2026 19:17

If we see the result of the overthrow of tyrannical communist regimes in Romania, Poland, East Germany, Ukraine 40 years ago we have seen emerging healthy democracies emerging. I see a lot of doom mongering about the fall of the regime in terms of new governance but I think we should be positive.

The Middle East cannot be compared to Europe. Regime change often leads to chaos and disruption more often than not there isn't a stable, legitimate replacement.

RichardOnslowRoper · 28/02/2026 19:27

How on earth are people comparing Eastern Europe to Iran?

ObsessiveGoogler · 28/02/2026 19:28

mids2019 · 28/02/2026 19:17

If we see the result of the overthrow of tyrannical communist regimes in Romania, Poland, East Germany, Ukraine 40 years ago we have seen emerging healthy democracies emerging. I see a lot of doom mongering about the fall of the regime in terms of new governance but I think we should be positive.

There is a huge difference when regimes are overthrown by internal resistance rather than external force. We only have to look at Iraq and Afghanistan to see what most commonly happens - evidence suggests foreign involvement increases the risk of civil war. Overthrowing governments is the easy bit - long term democracy and peace is much more illusive. I think every right -thinking person abhors the current Iranian regime and wants so much better for the Iranian people, but past experience does not suggest peace and stability is that likely unfortunately.

EasternStandard · 28/02/2026 19:29

Mercurial123 · 28/02/2026 19:27

The Middle East cannot be compared to Europe. Regime change often leads to chaos and disruption more often than not there isn't a stable, legitimate replacement.

The Middle East isn’t all the same. Iranians are not in Iraq nor Afghanistan.

38thparallel · 28/02/2026 19:33

I see a lot of doom mongering about the fall of the regime in terms of new governance but I think we should be positive.

I think that there is a body of opinion - expressed on here and elsewhere - that is opposed to any right wing regimes and regimes with a monarchy, especially absolute monarchies such as those governing some ME countries like Saudi or Dubai.

Communist or left wing authoritarian regimes with appalling human rights such as Venezuela, China and Cuba are tolerated or even approved of.

Also any interference by Trump will be condemned no matter if the population of the country are largely in favour of the interference.
The Ayatollah and his brutal henchmen is preferable to Trump’s involvement and the possibility of the restoration of a monarchy.

Maybe if Obama or even Biden had launched attacks against Iran’s regime they’d would have had more support - I don’t know.

Zuve · 28/02/2026 19:41

I am filling the car up with petrol before the prices rise. Let's pray for peace

OrangeAxolotyl · 28/02/2026 19:45

Zuve · 28/02/2026 19:41

I am filling the car up with petrol before the prices rise. Let's pray for peace

Please don't contribute to any kind of panic buying.

OrangeAxolotyl · 28/02/2026 19:46

38thparallel · 28/02/2026 19:33

I see a lot of doom mongering about the fall of the regime in terms of new governance but I think we should be positive.

I think that there is a body of opinion - expressed on here and elsewhere - that is opposed to any right wing regimes and regimes with a monarchy, especially absolute monarchies such as those governing some ME countries like Saudi or Dubai.

Communist or left wing authoritarian regimes with appalling human rights such as Venezuela, China and Cuba are tolerated or even approved of.

Also any interference by Trump will be condemned no matter if the population of the country are largely in favour of the interference.
The Ayatollah and his brutal henchmen is preferable to Trump’s involvement and the possibility of the restoration of a monarchy.

Maybe if Obama or even Biden had launched attacks against Iran’s regime they’d would have had more support - I don’t know.

I think you're right.

SpaceRaccoon · 28/02/2026 19:53

Fleur405 · 28/02/2026 19:27

Am I understanding Netanyahu’s latest comments correctly that Israel believes Khomeini has been killed? If so this is a huge development but there may not be a peaceful transition of power. Who is in charge now and indiscriminately firing missiles all over the place?

Edited

It looks like he might well be - probably has been for hours since the initial strike.

Fleur405 · 28/02/2026 19:54

SpaceRaccoon · 28/02/2026 19:53

It looks like he might well be - probably has been for hours since the initial strike.

Now being reported by Reuters that he is indeed dead. Doesn’t seem to be verified yet though.

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