Study reveals majority of Gaza war 'journalists' tied to terror groups

[Twiglets1]

Posted in Ynet today:

A new study has found that about 60 percent of the people described as journalists or media workers who were killed during the war in the Gaza Strip were Hamas operatives or members of other terror groups.

The research, published Thursday morning by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, examined the identities of 266 Palestinians who were labeled as journalists or media workers and died in the fighting. At least 157 of them were operatives or individuals affiliated with terror organizations.

The study follows an earlier report released by the center in February last year that reviewed the identities of 131 Palestinians described in Gaza as journalists or media workers. The new research looked at an additional 135 Palestinians who have been killed since then and found that about 60 percent of all the casualties in this category were members of terror groups.

According to the findings, 104 of those described as journalists or media workers were Hamas members, including at least 47 who were part of the terror group or served as military operatives. Another 45 were operatives or affiliated with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, including at least 18 identified as members or military operatives. Two were identified as operatives of Fatah’s military wing, two belonged to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, one to the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and one to the Popular Resistance Committees.

The study also noted two media workers who were described after their deaths as military operatives, although their organizational affiliation was not identified. Among 109 additional fatalities examined, eight were identified with Fatah and seven with the Palestinian Authority. No affiliation was found for the remaining 94.

Researchers said the study was based on a list of media workers published by Hamas’ government information office in Gaza. The center cross referenced the list with reports from Palestinian media outlets and with a Hamas document uncovered by Israel Defense Forces troops during ground operations in Gaza. The document included names and roles of operatives in the Gaza Brigade of Hamas’ military wing.

Hamas considers journalists a critical part of its propaganda apparatus and its efforts to shape public perception and incite violence, the center emphasized. Terror groups in Gaza, led by Hamas, operate numerous media outlets aligned with them. Hamas leaders have repeatedly said that the media front is as important as the military one.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hyjqezozze

Yes they know the risks but who would get blamed if they had got killed while the whole area was in chaos before the ceasefire? Israel would, like they get blamed for every death despite the various active terrorists in the area.

All 70,000 deaths

how unfair of us all

We really shouldn’t blame Israel for the 20,000 children they have killed, just an oops

Are you saying that any deaths they reported didn’t happen?
Or just that the IDF are the only valid source of information about the war?

I am also very curious to find out what “linked to” means, and how wide a circle of “linked to” makes a person a valid target for death.
It does seem to me that if infants in incubators are validly terrorists, then everyone in Gaza is a terrorist/killable and you should just say “All Palestinians are terrorists, everything they say can be dismissed. Only the IDF are trustworthy.”

Any reports from a more reliable source to back this claim up @Twiglets1 or just a report from to quote former members of Mossad “a propaganda body”

So 60% were affiliated and some others were military operatives?
How does that work if there is no military in Gaza only Hamas?
Who were they military operatives for?

No I'm not saying no deaths happened or that the IDF are the only source of information about the war.

I've posted an article to discuss and it doesn't say either of those things.

I have no idea why you are talking about babies in incubators being terrorists because no one on this board has ever said that or that everyone in Gaza is a terrorist.

There are other organisations operating in Gaza named in the report:

Palestinian Islamic Jihad, including at least 18 identified as members or military operatives. Two were identified as operatives of Fatah’s military wing, two belonged to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, one to the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and one to the Popular Resistance Committees.

I imagine they are delighted to have an excuse not to put themsrlves at the mercy if Hamas while being able to criticise Israel. Win win all round.

So why weren't they included in the 60% then because those organizations were mentioned in the original number . So we are back to 40% not being affiliated with any terrorist organization but were still murdered by the IDF , the same people who supplied the information to the institution with a Hamas document uncovered by Israel Defense Forces troops during ground operations in Gaza. The document included names and roles of operatives in the Gaza Brigade of Hamas’ military wing
To be fair it's a very poorly written article, it is very hard to follow what the numbers actually are when they have added them to last February numbers .

Well I am shocked 😲 I mean if the murderers say that they were terrorists then they must be, what possible reason could have for lying about things, again 🤔

yup - imagine if Netanyahu had suddenly invited international journalists to wander at will throughout Gaza during the peak in fighting, without IDF protection.

Not sure there would have been a long queue for that assignment - they would probably have ended up being held hostage in tunnels for months if not killed outright.

Its not murder in a war, except in particular circumstances, as everyone knows.

I think it's clear that some of the "journalists" killed they didn't know who they were working for but since they were engaged in military operations, it was a fair guess they were being employed by someone in a capacity beyond the purely journalistic.

It's striking @Martymcfly24 that you are focusing on the minutiae of the report but not the shocking (to some) statistic that about 60% of supposed journalists in Gaza were found to have affiliations to terror groups.

I think it is appalling that dead journalists are being smeared here to excuse Israel

Why? I said earlier that I was surprised it was so little? I expected a much higher number especially considering the actual institution(Israeli) that released the details based on documents the IDF found. Combined with the posting on here I would have thought it would have been 100% or very close to it.

So over 90 journalists lost their lives for no reason.

No, that's not the conclusion that the article points to at all.

Yes many journalists lost their lives for no reason. So did many, many other civilians. This war has been horrific for innocent civilians in Gaza. I know we agree on that but you blame the Israel government and I blame Hamas for triggering the whole thing with their massacre on 7/10/23.

It's still newsworthy that this study provides evidence linking the majority of local journalists to Hamas operatives or members of other terror groups. This is something that has been widely denied and still is being denied by some on this thread (not you).

And everyone knows that this shite isn't worth the paper it's written on but here people are pretending that it isn't just another fabrication in a long line of fabrications used to justify mass killings. I wonder if this 'list' was written in calander format too?

Makes sense and the damage is irreversible.

Where is your evidence that the report isn't worth the paper it's written on? Just because you don't like something doesn't necessarily make it "shite" or a fabrication.

Researchers said the study was based on a list of media workers published by Hamas’ government information office in Gaza. The center cross referenced the list with reports from Palestinian media outlets and with a Hamas document uncovered by Israel Defense Forces troops during ground operations in Gaza. The document included names and roles of operatives in the Gaza Brigade of Hamas’ military wing.

I just genuinely don't think 60% as a figure is a huge majority. I know you will disagree with this but I would have expected it to be higher based on the high profile stories of many of those who died.
Very sad for those who lost their lives trying to tell the news risking death from the IDF and Hamas.

Fair enough that is your opinion that 60% isn't that high a percentage but yes, I do disagree.