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When will it be time for the BBC news to take down the 'war on gaza' tab?

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mids2019 · 25/11/2025 07:19

The peace fire seems on the whole to be holding and therefore there is limited news from this region so why don't the BBC pull any articles on the middle east into the main site of at least into a middle East section?

There are many conflicts around the world that (Sudan, Somalia etc) that deserve attention yet still the BBC have a whole section up for war ended by a ceasefire? It has been shown there was bias within the BBC which is currently suffering a lot of aspirational damage so surely it could help itself by having equal coverage of conflicts around the world apart from focussing one that involves Israelis and Jews? Anti semitism has been well documented in this country and I think one way to reduce e it is to look at areas where there is an over focus on one particular conflict showing an anti Israel agenda.

The Guardian have stopped their exclusive sub heading so why can't the BBC follow?

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SharonEllis · 30/11/2025 08:13

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 30/11/2025 07:24

There’s always going to be terrorism Sharon. You are never going to know in what form it’s going to present itself.

What on earth are you talking about? We know very well what form it presents itself when it comes to terrorism in Israel, and against the Jewish diaspora. We have years (centuries, you might argue) of examples and of intelligence gathering.

Stripes56 · 30/11/2025 08:32

SameOldHill · 28/11/2025 18:40

Jesus wept. That’s not the point.

You don’t get to decide who should or shouldn’t be protected by international law. Else the world will descend into chaos.

Absolutely @SameOldHill
We cannot all descend to the common denominator where there is no respect for life of others beyond those we define as worthy.

Otherwise, what separates us from those from whom we wish to protect ourselves?

Twiglets1 · 30/11/2025 08:32

Stripes56 · 30/11/2025 08:32

Absolutely @SameOldHill
We cannot all descend to the common denominator where there is no respect for life of others beyond those we define as worthy.

Otherwise, what separates us from those from whom we wish to protect ourselves?

Edited

Plenty.

mids2019 · 30/11/2025 08:36

One of the problems with the BBC and it's continued use of the news section is that it will desperately try and fill the section with analysis now in the guise of news. I think there is an element both within and without the media that is quietly disappointed the war is paused (over?) as the ceasefire has denied them opportunities to further the Plestinian 'cause' fervently.

There is a real danger that was have an 'Israel watch' section on our national grandfather's website focussing on one trouble not spot of the world to the detriment of reporting on others. At its extreme this focus could be viewed as another part of a media drive to demonize Israel which I am sure the BBC doesn't want (?).

Ukraine, Venezuela, Sudan....so much is going on in the world and will continue to do so that we really must ask questions about where BBC editorial policy lies. I think this is going to be pertinent going forward as I predict in terms of international news very slow going on Gaza as what ever is going to happen in that region is now going to be reportable in terms of decades rather than weeks. As the ceasefire continues to hold and hopefully at some point Hamas disarms news will be about diplomact , governance , fiance etc. and such things are probably better reported on with occasional 'in depth' pieces rather than a real time reporting as the tab suggests.

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Stripes56 · 30/11/2025 08:40

Twiglets1 · 28/11/2025 19:33

No of course I don't. No one is asking me but equally not many people seem very concerned about 2 more terrorists being killed. Apart from a couple of people on MN that seem to have unlimited amounts of faux outrage about anything connected to the IDF or Israel government behaving badly.

@Twiglets1
If the concern was confined to a few posters on MN, it would hardly be reported on by major news outlets?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israeli-forces-kill-two-palestinian-men-in-west-bank-after-they-appear-to-surrender/ar-AA1RicTs?ocid=BingNewsSerp

And this brings us back to the point of this thread? It’s uncomfortable reading for some?

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israeli-forces-kill-two-palestinian-men-in-west-bank-after-they-appear-to-surrender/ar-AA1RicTs?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Twiglets1 · 30/11/2025 08:49

Not uncomfortable for me to read about terrorists getting killed.

Civilians getting killed is uncomfortable not terrorists.

Stripes56 · 30/11/2025 09:03

Twiglets1 · 30/11/2025 08:49

Not uncomfortable for me to read about terrorists getting killed.

Civilians getting killed is uncomfortable not terrorists.

@Twiglets1 - that’s a view not shared by others, including within Israel if we read the articles.

It’s also why people continue to show an interest in a democratic state with close links to western states breaking international law.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 30/11/2025 09:03

The BBC is massivelybbiased towards Palestine and Hamas can do no wrong. Full of so called young middle class, very arrogant and ambitious Oxbridge types.

C4 us even worse

The Movers and Shakers.

They want to shape peoples perceptions and the way the think to reflect the way they think.

They really want to make an impact and see themselves as the real Big Beasts.

Watch the Thick If IT.

soddingspiderseason · 30/11/2025 09:15

mids2019 · 30/11/2025 08:36

One of the problems with the BBC and it's continued use of the news section is that it will desperately try and fill the section with analysis now in the guise of news. I think there is an element both within and without the media that is quietly disappointed the war is paused (over?) as the ceasefire has denied them opportunities to further the Plestinian 'cause' fervently.

There is a real danger that was have an 'Israel watch' section on our national grandfather's website focussing on one trouble not spot of the world to the detriment of reporting on others. At its extreme this focus could be viewed as another part of a media drive to demonize Israel which I am sure the BBC doesn't want (?).

Ukraine, Venezuela, Sudan....so much is going on in the world and will continue to do so that we really must ask questions about where BBC editorial policy lies. I think this is going to be pertinent going forward as I predict in terms of international news very slow going on Gaza as what ever is going to happen in that region is now going to be reportable in terms of decades rather than weeks. As the ceasefire continues to hold and hopefully at some point Hamas disarms news will be about diplomact , governance , fiance etc. and such things are probably better reported on with occasional 'in depth' pieces rather than a real time reporting as the tab suggests.

This. The situation in Sudan is horrific. But we see almost nothing on mainstream news.

Stripes56 · 30/11/2025 10:44

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 30/11/2025 09:03

The BBC is massivelybbiased towards Palestine and Hamas can do no wrong. Full of so called young middle class, very arrogant and ambitious Oxbridge types.

C4 us even worse

The Movers and Shakers.

They want to shape peoples perceptions and the way the think to reflect the way they think.

They really want to make an impact and see themselves as the real Big Beasts.

Watch the Thick If IT.

@SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess
I am sure there’s a lot of truth in what you say 😅

However the idea that only politically left leaning people have significant concerns about Israel’s actions is wrong.

Only the majority of Reform voters don’t seem to think Israeli actions have gone too far.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2025-09/Ipsos_Sep%2025_Israel%20Gaza_charts.pdf

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2025-09/Ipsos_Sep%2025_Israel%20Gaza_charts.pdf

Everexpanding · 30/11/2025 14:01

Twiglets1 · 30/11/2025 08:49

Not uncomfortable for me to read about terrorists getting killed.

Civilians getting killed is uncomfortable not terrorists.

@Twiglets1 there is a bigger picture to the IDFs actions and the fact that Israel has been allowed to continue unlawfully killing both civilians and combatants the quote below summarises better than I can, but many people are rightfully concerned for the precedents being set

“The historian said the conflict in Gaza could have enormous consequences. “I’ve always been convinced that it’s a universal tragedy. It’s not one more Middle Eastern conflict. It’s a laboratory of a post-UN world, of a post Geneva convention world, of a post-declaration of human rights world, and this world is very scary because it’s not even rational,” Filiu said. “It’s just ferocious.”

mids2019 · 30/11/2025 15:31

It seems if Israel are involved in self defence it's suddenly some sort of affront to go the world order - spoiler it's not. The focus on Israel and it's conflicts are often spurred on by those that hate the idea of Israel it's self. Look at Your Party and it's unapologetic hatred of the Jewish state sharing a manifesto with Hamas on the delegitimising of the Israeli state. Shameful .

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Everexpanding · 30/11/2025 20:53

Party? @mids2019 Are you getting confused between threads what are you talking about?

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 30/11/2025 20:54

Everexpanding · 30/11/2025 20:53

Party? @mids2019 Are you getting confused between threads what are you talking about?

I was confused too. Assumed Sunday lunch….

Everexpanding · 30/11/2025 21:50

Maybe

Twiglets1 · 30/11/2025 22:13

Assume they are talking about Your Party ( because that’s what they said not just “party”) - the political party run by Corbyn & Sultana.

StrikeForever · 30/11/2025 22:30

They should take it down when Israel stops slaughtering people in Gaza. 😡

Twiglets1 · 01/12/2025 04:16

Stripes56 · 30/11/2025 08:40

@Twiglets1
If the concern was confined to a few posters on MN, it would hardly be reported on by major news outlets?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israeli-forces-kill-two-palestinian-men-in-west-bank-after-they-appear-to-surrender/ar-AA1RicTs?ocid=BingNewsSerp

And this brings us back to the point of this thread? It’s uncomfortable reading for some?

The media report on anything anti Israel because there’s a market for reading about it. When I say “not many people are concerned about 2 more terrorists being killed” I mean no one in the international community seems too worried about those terrorists as people. There will be no repercussions for the IDF killing them and no sanctions against Israel. They are only reported on because they represent another thing to blame Israel for and these men as “victims” of the IDF will be forgotten about as soon as the next story appears.

SameOldHill · 01/12/2025 05:51

There will be no repercussions for the IDF killing them and no sanctions against Israel.

But isn’t that part of the problem? Isn’t that precisely why it should be reported on?

Stripes56 · 01/12/2025 08:03

Twiglets1 · 01/12/2025 04:16

The media report on anything anti Israel because there’s a market for reading about it. When I say “not many people are concerned about 2 more terrorists being killed” I mean no one in the international community seems too worried about those terrorists as people. There will be no repercussions for the IDF killing them and no sanctions against Israel. They are only reported on because they represent another thing to blame Israel for and these men as “victims” of the IDF will be forgotten about as soon as the next story appears.

´There’s a market for reading about it’
Well at least we agree that concerns about Israeli actions are not restricted to a few random people on this forum then.

You may not be, but there are people who are appalled when two people are lying prone on the floor in an attempt to surrender are needlessly shot. It is something we don’t expect from our soldiers.

Surely the point of keeping the spotlight on Gaza is to push for a form of resolution?

Sweetiedarling7 · 01/12/2025 08:18

mids2019 · 25/11/2025 18:22

The world is a violent place but we expect our national broadcaster to be impartial and prioritise immediate events as far as possible. After the cease fire there is relatively little news on a daily basis from Gaza so having a sub section of the main news site just tempts journalists to fill the space....the question is is this necessary and if so why?

Are there those in the BBC who want the sub section up there to placate pro pals who wish there to be a digital reminder of this war so to whip up support for the Palestinian 'cause'?

I agree OP.
It is horrible to think of certain wars being more fashionable causes to the media (mainstream and social) than others but I think this is the case here.

dairydebris · 01/12/2025 08:31

Everexpanding · 30/11/2025 14:01

@Twiglets1 there is a bigger picture to the IDFs actions and the fact that Israel has been allowed to continue unlawfully killing both civilians and combatants the quote below summarises better than I can, but many people are rightfully concerned for the precedents being set

“The historian said the conflict in Gaza could have enormous consequences. “I’ve always been convinced that it’s a universal tragedy. It’s not one more Middle Eastern conflict. It’s a laboratory of a post-UN world, of a post Geneva convention world, of a post-declaration of human rights world, and this world is very scary because it’s not even rational,” Filiu said. “It’s just ferocious.”

Was the Geneva Convention adhered to during-

The Russian Invasion of Ukraine?
The Burmese / Rohingya conflict?
The war on Isis? The invasion of Iraq?
Rwanda?
Bosnia / Srebrenica / Kosovo?
Sudan?
Yemen?

In fact, can you name me a single conflict since 1977 where the Geneva Convention was adhered to?

Ideally every conflict would follow these guidelines but thats not the species we are. Its the species we wish we are. Its the species we aim to be.

Making out this conflict is uniquely awful because Israel is uniquely awful is not factual and is veering into antisemitism.

SharonEllis · 01/12/2025 08:40

dairydebris · 01/12/2025 08:31

Was the Geneva Convention adhered to during-

The Russian Invasion of Ukraine?
The Burmese / Rohingya conflict?
The war on Isis? The invasion of Iraq?
Rwanda?
Bosnia / Srebrenica / Kosovo?
Sudan?
Yemen?

In fact, can you name me a single conflict since 1977 where the Geneva Convention was adhered to?

Ideally every conflict would follow these guidelines but thats not the species we are. Its the species we wish we are. Its the species we aim to be.

Making out this conflict is uniquely awful because Israel is uniquely awful is not factual and is veering into antisemitism.

Which is the pont a lot of people are avoiding and the issue with the special tab. It says Israel/Gaza is uniquely awful, or uniquely important. In fact allows people to bypass other world news and go straight to this subject, further perpetuating the cycle.

dairydebris · 01/12/2025 08:46

SharonEllis · 01/12/2025 08:40

Which is the pont a lot of people are avoiding and the issue with the special tab. It says Israel/Gaza is uniquely awful, or uniquely important. In fact allows people to bypass other world news and go straight to this subject, further perpetuating the cycle.

I agree, although personally I'm ok with the tab. People are clearly very interested in this particular conflict. I would just like to see people deeply questioning WHY their own unique, emotional focus on this one conflict, when in fact there is nothing unique about what humans are doing to each other here.

Twiglets1 · 01/12/2025 09:00

Stripes56 · 01/12/2025 08:03

´There’s a market for reading about it’
Well at least we agree that concerns about Israeli actions are not restricted to a few random people on this forum then.

You may not be, but there are people who are appalled when two people are lying prone on the floor in an attempt to surrender are needlessly shot. It is something we don’t expect from our soldiers.

Surely the point of keeping the spotlight on Gaza is to push for a form of resolution?

Depends what you mean by “concern”.

My opinion is that people going on about these terrorists are more motivated by another reason to criticise Isreal than any real concern for the two individuals.

Opinions can be wrong of course so 🤷🏼‍♀️