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Jewish man arrested for ‘antagonising’ pro-Palestinian protestors.

81 replies

TicklishMauveSquid · 18/10/2025 21:28

Because he was wearing a Star of David necklace.

Arrested by Met Police. Handcuffed and held for 10 hours.

Excepts of interview in link.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/18/jewish-man-arrested-star-of-david-antagonised-protesters/

X link showing interview not behind paywall.

https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1979545441562943854

Along with the banning of (predominantly Jewish obviously) supporters of an Israeli football team from attending a game in Birmingham, this is showing a trend that is starting to be reminiscent of 30s Nazi Germany.

Lee Harris (@addicted2newz) on X

I can't believe what I've just watched. A Jewish lawyer wearing a Star of David was arrested after the police alleged the symbol had "antagonised" pro-Palestine protesters. He was handcuffed and detained by police for almost TEN hours. DISGUSTING! S...

https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1979545441562943854

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RhododendronFlowers · 19/10/2025 10:24

Yes, @TwistyTurnip , I've heard that it's becoming an increasing problem. I can go to my church, the doors are wide open and anyone can go in. I drive past our local synagogue, they have huge security gates and a buzzer system, and guards outside. At Yom Kippur there were police cars outside to protect the worshippers.
That should not be the case in a multi faith, diverse society.
Hate crime is on the rise and some people are getting away with it.

TwistyTurnip · 19/10/2025 10:47

Just imagine if this happened to any other religion - there would be outrage. I can’t understand how this is deemed acceptable. And I only learned recently that there are only circa. 300 thousand Jews in the UK. I’m saddened, but not surprised that so many are choosing to leave.

maudelovesharold · 19/10/2025 10:49

The Jew haters have become emboldened by the agitators chanting ‘From the river to the sea’ and ‘there is only one solution, intifada revolution’. We all know where the significance of the use of the word ‘solution’.

That’s a bit of a stretch! Ever heard the terms ‘one state solution’ and ‘two state solution’, with regard to Palestine and Israel?
As for ‘From the river to the sea..’, the phrase has been used by both Palestinians and Israelis favouring a one state solution over a two state solution.

Twiglets1 · 19/10/2025 10:56

Moglet4 · 19/10/2025 08:28

According to the police report, deliberately, repeatedly, aggressively and after repeated warnings not to. Of course he got arrested, as would anyone who’d done the same thing from the other side.

What did he do that was aggressive? Seems unlikely in a professional lawyer.

Unless you think it's aggressive for Jewish people to wear the star of David?

Victim blaming - similar, as a PP pointed out, to how men used to blame rape victims for things like wearing clothes considered provocative to men.

Echobelly · 19/10/2025 10:58

TwistyTurnip · 19/10/2025 10:18

Well I’ve heard plenty of accounts from Jewish people which make me believe that antisemitism has been on the rise in the UK and has become a very real problem.

I didn’t realise quite the extent of it until I listened to Shelagh Fogerty’s show on LBC a few weeks ago. People were ringing in and detailing what it’s like to live in the UK as a Jew. Many described being targeted simply for expressing their identity, whether through clothing, language, or community affiliation. A woman spoke of her child hiding their Jewish school uniform on the way to school to avoid abuse, while others described the unsettling normality of armed security outside synagogues and Jewish schools for protection. If you don’t believe me you can look it up and listen to it yourself. And I wouldn’t describe LBC as right-wing gutter press.

You might not have experienced it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Where did I deny it has happened anywhere? Just that I don't believe this incident is case of it.

I know people who have experienced abuse and yes, that has increased since October 7th.

Which is why it pisses me off when occasionally someone goes to make a confrontation in order to make a hue and cry in the press that someone trying to prevent further confrontation was 'antisemitic'. Like this guy and Gideon Falter, who I was waiting for someone to bring up. It undermines reporting of genuine incidents and plays into the hands of antisemites.

RhododendronFlowers · 19/10/2025 11:01

Echobelly · 19/10/2025 10:58

Where did I deny it has happened anywhere? Just that I don't believe this incident is case of it.

I know people who have experienced abuse and yes, that has increased since October 7th.

Which is why it pisses me off when occasionally someone goes to make a confrontation in order to make a hue and cry in the press that someone trying to prevent further confrontation was 'antisemitic'. Like this guy and Gideon Falter, who I was waiting for someone to bring up. It undermines reporting of genuine incidents and plays into the hands of antisemites.

Sounds like victim blaming to me.
What was the woman doing in the nightclub?
Why did she walk home alone?
Why was that girl wearing tight trousers?

noblegiraffe · 19/10/2025 11:07

maudelovesharold · 19/10/2025 10:49

The Jew haters have become emboldened by the agitators chanting ‘From the river to the sea’ and ‘there is only one solution, intifada revolution’. We all know where the significance of the use of the word ‘solution’.

That’s a bit of a stretch! Ever heard the terms ‘one state solution’ and ‘two state solution’, with regard to Palestine and Israel?
As for ‘From the river to the sea..’, the phrase has been used by both Palestinians and Israelis favouring a one state solution over a two state solution.

And it's not acceptable for either group to be wanting to eliminate the other group, is it?

However, I've only ever heard it chanted on the streets of the UK in favour of the eradication of Israel. And people try to defend it by pretending it doesn't mean that.

What's also astonishing is people claiming that antisemitism isn't a rising problem in the UK when this is not only well documented, but Jews were recently targeted, attacked and killed outside of a synagogue.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/10/2025 12:02

it's not acceptable for either group to be wanting to eliminate the other group, is it?

No it isn't, @noblegiraffe, but we seem to have reached a point where one group has impunity to fill the streets with their confrontational hate and another's arrested for what appears very little

Same with the Maccabi fans ... by all means ban those known to have been involved in violence, as is regularly done with others, but ALL of them?

Still, the UK only has c300k jews and those who wish to destroy them have vastly greater numbers, by far the louder voice and choices which many are reluctant to address, and here we are Sad

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 19/10/2025 12:07

TwistyTurnip · 19/10/2025 10:18

Well I’ve heard plenty of accounts from Jewish people which make me believe that antisemitism has been on the rise in the UK and has become a very real problem.

I didn’t realise quite the extent of it until I listened to Shelagh Fogerty’s show on LBC a few weeks ago. People were ringing in and detailing what it’s like to live in the UK as a Jew. Many described being targeted simply for expressing their identity, whether through clothing, language, or community affiliation. A woman spoke of her child hiding their Jewish school uniform on the way to school to avoid abuse, while others described the unsettling normality of armed security outside synagogues and Jewish schools for protection. If you don’t believe me you can look it up and listen to it yourself. And I wouldn’t describe LBC as right-wing gutter press.

You might not have experienced it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

The Jewish school local to me now has a hidden uniform policy where children need to hide their uniforms outside school because there has been so much abuse (including to primary school aged children). They now have school buses to keep children safe - but a bus was still attacked by people breaking in and screaming Free Palestine at the children. There is hateful graffiti all over the walls and stickers on every lamppost and bus stop. Our local book shop has a shelf of books legitimising Hamas (One quote - '7 Oct was a consequence').

Before, Jew-hate was not acceptable, so antisemitism became the new word used to legitimise discrimination and hate - this was permitted because the Jewish people were seen to be responsible for the social ills of the time period. Now, antisemitism is not acceptable, so the behaviour is veiled by a new term, and the Jewish people are now responsible for an updated set of social ills.

noblegiraffe · 19/10/2025 12:13

but we seem to have reached a point where one group has impunity to fill the streets with their confrontational hate and another's arrested for what appears very little

Yes, if wearing a Star of David is provocative, why is marching through the streets calling for death and destruction not provocative?

That guy who carries the Hamas are Terrorists sign was also arrested many times for provocation.

RhododendronFlowers · 19/10/2025 12:13

noblegiraffe · 19/10/2025 12:13

but we seem to have reached a point where one group has impunity to fill the streets with their confrontational hate and another's arrested for what appears very little

Yes, if wearing a Star of David is provocative, why is marching through the streets calling for death and destruction not provocative?

That guy who carries the Hamas are Terrorists sign was also arrested many times for provocation.

Yes, I remember that. Didn't others on the march start to harrass him?

noblegiraffe · 19/10/2025 12:14

He's been assaulted, had his sign taken off him, ripped up etc.

TwistyTurnip · 19/10/2025 12:22

Echobelly · 19/10/2025 10:58

Where did I deny it has happened anywhere? Just that I don't believe this incident is case of it.

I know people who have experienced abuse and yes, that has increased since October 7th.

Which is why it pisses me off when occasionally someone goes to make a confrontation in order to make a hue and cry in the press that someone trying to prevent further confrontation was 'antisemitic'. Like this guy and Gideon Falter, who I was waiting for someone to bring up. It undermines reporting of genuine incidents and plays into the hands of antisemites.

You mentioned in your earlier post that you were able to peacefully protest along with other people at a pro Palestine rally. Your attendance clearly didn’t agitate anyone if what you say is true. In which case, why was the man arrested in the example the OP has given?

sellotapechicken · 19/10/2025 12:29

TicklishMauveSquid · 18/10/2025 22:05

If that’s true, what is the relevance of the necklace he was wearing, which was clearly referred to in the police interview?

Clickbait

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 12:40

sellotapechicken · 19/10/2025 12:29

Clickbait

Police cover clickbait in their interviews? Why?

CrossChecking · 19/10/2025 12:48

TwistyTurnip · 19/10/2025 12:22

You mentioned in your earlier post that you were able to peacefully protest along with other people at a pro Palestine rally. Your attendance clearly didn’t agitate anyone if what you say is true. In which case, why was the man arrested in the example the OP has given?

Edited

He was arrested for allegedly repeatedly breaching Public Order Act conditions that were in place to keep opposing protest groups apart.

At any protest, for everyone's safety protesters and counter protesters are kept apart. This gentleman decided that the rules didn't apply to him, he appointed himself as some kind of 'legal observer' and decided that that self given title gave him the right to breach the conditions of the protest, the police told him repeatedly that that wasn't the case, the rules apply to him too and asked him to move, he didn't and was arrested.

TigTails · 19/10/2025 12:50

A “legal observer” of a protest is a genuine thing, and not something this man has randomly made up, however surely he still has to abide by the same rules as everyone else which in this case it appears he didn’t do.

RhododendronFlowers · 19/10/2025 13:02

noblegiraffe · 19/10/2025 12:14

He's been assaulted, had his sign taken off him, ripped up etc.

That's right. Surely, at a peaceful protest that shouldn't have happened?
Surely all these marchers are against Hamas as well?....🤔

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/10/2025 13:50

If wearing a Star of David is provocative, why is marching through the streets calling for death and destruction not provocative?

Indeed, @noblegiraffe

I'm aware that police are claiming he was actually arrested for a public order offence, in that he wouldn't move away from the protest, but would like to know why this particular man was targeted and yet thousands of screamers and spitters calling for death are still allowed to infest our streets

CrossChecking · 19/10/2025 14:42

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/10/2025 13:50

If wearing a Star of David is provocative, why is marching through the streets calling for death and destruction not provocative?

Indeed, @noblegiraffe

I'm aware that police are claiming he was actually arrested for a public order offence, in that he wouldn't move away from the protest, but would like to know why this particular man was targeted and yet thousands of screamers and spitters calling for death are still allowed to infest our streets

The man wasn't 'targeted' he was arrested for breaking the law. The 1000s of 'screamers and spitters' as you charmingly call them clearly aren't. Maybe the man should learn a thing or two from those protesters and stay within the law then he won't find himself in handcuffs crying to the press next time Smile

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 15:22

CrossChecking · 19/10/2025 14:42

The man wasn't 'targeted' he was arrested for breaking the law. The 1000s of 'screamers and spitters' as you charmingly call them clearly aren't. Maybe the man should learn a thing or two from those protesters and stay within the law then he won't find himself in handcuffs crying to the press next time Smile

Edited

‘Crying to the press’. Charming. Too right some lines of questioning should be scrutinised.

RhododendronFlowers · 19/10/2025 15:55

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/10/2025 13:50

If wearing a Star of David is provocative, why is marching through the streets calling for death and destruction not provocative?

Indeed, @noblegiraffe

I'm aware that police are claiming he was actually arrested for a public order offence, in that he wouldn't move away from the protest, but would like to know why this particular man was targeted and yet thousands of screamers and spitters calling for death are still allowed to infest our streets

Exactly. Week after week. In Manchester on the very day of the Yom Kippur attack.
Continuing after a cease fire.

Ihatetomatoes · 19/10/2025 17:13

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 19/10/2025 12:07

The Jewish school local to me now has a hidden uniform policy where children need to hide their uniforms outside school because there has been so much abuse (including to primary school aged children). They now have school buses to keep children safe - but a bus was still attacked by people breaking in and screaming Free Palestine at the children. There is hateful graffiti all over the walls and stickers on every lamppost and bus stop. Our local book shop has a shelf of books legitimising Hamas (One quote - '7 Oct was a consequence').

Before, Jew-hate was not acceptable, so antisemitism became the new word used to legitimise discrimination and hate - this was permitted because the Jewish people were seen to be responsible for the social ills of the time period. Now, antisemitism is not acceptable, so the behaviour is veiled by a new term, and the Jewish people are now responsible for an updated set of social ills.

This is awful in the UK. Theae are children. Adults screaming Free Palestine at children need arresting. Disgusting and does nothing to help the people in Gaza. It must not be tolerated.

Moglet4 · 22/10/2025 09:13

Twiglets1 · 19/10/2025 10:56

What did he do that was aggressive? Seems unlikely in a professional lawyer.

Unless you think it's aggressive for Jewish people to wear the star of David?

Victim blaming - similar, as a PP pointed out, to how men used to blame rape victims for things like wearing clothes considered provocative to men.

It is not victim blaming when you are not a victim. You may not agree with the rules the police have set out but if they are there and you repeatedly breach them despite being specifically told not to by the police, then you are behaving illegally and can fully expect to be arrested. Going up into someone’s face and shoving a camera in it is aggressive in my book - you may well disagree. In addition, half the people in the ‘pro-Pal side’ were actually Jewish so they’re hardly going to be offended by a Star of David. Jews are capable of acting badly and illegally, you know. It doesn’t take away from the fact that there are non-Jews who also act badly or Jews who don’t act badly. The man was arrested because he was being a twat and wouldn’t follow police instructions, not because he was wearing a Star of David. He is not exempt from the rule of law. As an aside, though, I do think there are others seriously brushing with being on the right side of the rule of law who should also be arrested who haven’t been and that is a fair point to raise.

Twiglets1 · 22/10/2025 14:28

@Moglet4 highly doubtful statement by you that half the people in the ‘pro-Pal side’ were actually Jewish - any evidence that half were?

More on this story from the Telegraph today:

The Metropolitan Police has been accused of lying over the arrest of a Jewish lawyer for allegedly antagonising pro-Palestine protesters by wearing a Star of David.

The man in his 40s, who the Telegraph is not naming, claimed that Scotland Yard misled the public in a statement it issued after his arrest and detention.

The Telegraph revealed the lawyer had been arrested, handcuffed behind his back and detained for 10 hours and remains under investigation.

Detectives asked him repeatedly about the necklace he was wearing, claiming the Star of David pendant had “antagonised” demonstrators protesting outside the Israeli embassy in London on Aug 29.

In a statement released on X after The Telegraph disclosed the incident, the Met Police insisted he had not been arrested for wearing a Star of David.

However, interview footage obtained by The Telegraph showed a detective accusing the man of openly wearing a Star of David, which the detective said could cause “offence”.

The detective said officers who had arrested the man “have noted in their statements that they believed because the Star of David was out and present to people … they felt that was antagonising the situation further”.

In the statement, the force said: “We understand the concerns, but the claim this man was arrested for wearing a Star of David necklace is not true.”

The Met declined to say why the man was questioned about the symbol. It also claimed the six minutes of footage made public by The Telegraph from the police interview was only six minutes of an hour-long interview.

But in fact the total video footage runs to about 45 minutes, including a statement read out by the accused that lasts for 18 minutes. Police question the man for about 28 minutes, of which about seven minutes is concerned with discussion of his wearing of the Star of David.

The Jewish lawyer told The Telegraph: “That police statement is a total misrepresentation and at best misleading. They have now compounded their initial error by ignoring the basic question of why they raised the Star of David in the first place. This statement only reduces the faith the Jewish community has in the police.”

The Tories demanded the Met Police issue an apology for the arrest and subsequent line of questioning.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/22/metropolitan-police-lied-arrest-jewish-lawyer/