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Conflict in the Middle East

Writer Naoise Dolan Abducted in International Waters

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KoalaKoKo · 08/10/2025 10:59

Writer, Naoise Dolan, has just been illegally abducted from international waters by the Israeli government. Prior to being kidnapped, she wrote about her journey for The Guardian, explaining why they will not get Israel to distribute aid on their behalf.

“Israel likes to ask why we don’t “just” let them distribute our supplies. Besides there being good reason to distrust that this would actually happen when Israel has been deliberately starving Palestinians for two years, doing so would tacitly concede that Israel has the right to control Palestinian waters.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/08/israel-seize-ship-gaza-flotilla-prison

Israel have just abducted 145 peace activists at gunpoint from international waters, in breach of international law. This follows their abduction of 500 people last week, some of which are still in captivity and those who have been released have reported brutal treatment where they were denied access to water, medical care and legal aid.

https://freedomflotilla.org/2025/10/08/iof-attacks/

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SharonEllis · 10/10/2025 19:03

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 18:55

Mind-boggling. People standing up to Hitler did it in utmost secrecy, risking and often losing their lives.

These futilla clowns sailed into an active war zone, knowing theyd be rescued for their own good, on a self publicizing social media stunt that has achieved absolutely nothing apart from raising awareness about a cause literally everyone is aware of.

My grandpa would be turning in his grave at anyone drawing equivalence like this.

I think schools need to start teaching more military history tbh. Theres so much ignorance on here.

I find it stomarch churning. The self indulgence of these futillistas confused with courage is actually quite horrifying. The intense bravery of the resistance, as you say so often in secret because noone could be trusted. Some people went to their grave without their own families knowing what they had done. No bravado. Compared to these pathetic cosplayers. Its sick.

HellsBalls · 10/10/2025 19:04

DrPrunesqualer · 10/10/2025 19:00

Let’s stop the lies

with the exception of one boat (not the one which this thread is based on) they were not in a military zone !
They were in International waters !

If you attempt to use lies as facts your posts lose all credibility

Let’s stop the bullshit. They were about to go into the military zone.

If you attempt to be deliberately obtuse, your posts lose all credibility.

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 19:05

DrPrunesqualer · 10/10/2025 19:00

Let’s stop the lies

with the exception of one boat (not the one which this thread is based on) they were not in a military zone !
They were in International waters !

If you attempt to use lies as facts your posts lose all credibility

They were heading for Gaza.

Wasn't Gaza a war zone until earlier today?

They were stopped for their own good and everyone including themselves knows it.

Do you think Israel should have let them rock all the way up to Gaza with their symbolic aid?

The comparison between heros of resistance to the Nazis is silly at best, outright insulting to their memories at worst.

TicklishMauveSquid · 10/10/2025 19:26

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Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 20:31

abducted... kidnapped... illegal... captivity... at gunpoint... brutal treatment... denied access... seized...

Gosh, sounds awful. Anyone would think there was a war going on!

inamarina · 10/10/2025 21:48

SharonEllis · 10/10/2025 19:03

I find it stomarch churning. The self indulgence of these futillistas confused with courage is actually quite horrifying. The intense bravery of the resistance, as you say so often in secret because noone could be trusted. Some people went to their grave without their own families knowing what they had done. No bravado. Compared to these pathetic cosplayers. Its sick.

I agree. In German, there is a term for that (a relatively new one, I think): “Gratismut”, which translates to "free courage”.
It describes the type of “courageous” behaviour which doesn’t actually require proper bravery, is mostly risk-free and widely accepted.

SharonEllis · 10/10/2025 21:50

Oh that's good. Trust the Germans to have named it!

inamarina · 10/10/2025 21:52

SharonEllis · 10/10/2025 21:50

Oh that's good. Trust the Germans to have named it!

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Germans can name anything and everything with their endless compound words!

Twiglets1 · 11/10/2025 07:22

TicklishMauveSquid · 11/10/2025 00:29

Oh dear, it seems Yvonne Ridley thinks the UK taxpayer should fund her flight home after her deportation from Israel. She can’t be serious surely?

https://x.com/LucyAJackson_/status/1975887414372737055

Narcissist expecting others to pander to her because she's "special"

dairydebris · 11/10/2025 08:03

inamarina · 10/10/2025 21:48

I agree. In German, there is a term for that (a relatively new one, I think): “Gratismut”, which translates to "free courage”.
It describes the type of “courageous” behaviour which doesn’t actually require proper bravery, is mostly risk-free and widely accepted.

Thanks for the word!
Remember hearing the word 'schadenfreude' as a teenager and loving it- this is as good.

Twiglets1 · 11/10/2025 08:16

Both words very good and easily recognisable (though no direct English equivalent).

Schadenfreude and Gratismut.

KoalaKoKo · 11/10/2025 10:38

Article in the Irish Examiner by Sarah Clancy who was on the last Flotilla about her experiences and motivations. I found it really moving when she talked about a phone call with a Palestinian who was preparing for their arrival in Gaza and had to explain Israel was likely to intercept them. He said:

No, you don’t understand, you have already done it, you have already arrived,” he said. “We tell our children each night that the world hasn’t forgotten them, they are watching your boats coming and we are telling them stories of this, that while this genocide happened people from the world were sailing, because they love Palestinian people”.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-41721615.html

….
This is so lovely but also deeply heartbreaking. My mum spent a month in Palestine a few years ago and was struck by how generous the people were and how incredibly welcoming they were to guests, going without while giving their guests things they couldn’t afford. My mum and her friend were due to return the favour and have some Palestinian guests stay in their town but they weren’t allowed to travel. I remember 27 years ago as a teenager going to a talk by a Palestinian poet who I admired only to find Israel had also stopped him travelling so instead someone read his poems on his behalf. To not be allowed your own airport, own sea ports, to have your poets and intellectuals banned from travelling. We are so lucky go be able to book flights without worry, to drive across the country without borders and checkpoints. The people on the flotilla are so brave challenging this and bringing awareness to how Palestinians have been forced to live. This sea blockade is decades old, if they build an airport it is bombed - their lives are so controlled by Israel and yet they remain hopeful, they continue to write and create - they are extraordinary!

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Beachtastic · 11/10/2025 10:44

There are some very obvious reasons why Palestinians have been "forced to live " that way, as 7 October so vividly demonstrated.

So many ways they could have improved relations and gradually won trust over the past two decades, but no, it's all or nothing: they just cannot let go of the idea that Israel and all the people in it is an abomination that must be eradicated.

That's what they have invested all their wealth into and focused all their attention on: genocide.

inamarina · 11/10/2025 11:02

Beachtastic · 11/10/2025 10:44

There are some very obvious reasons why Palestinians have been "forced to live " that way, as 7 October so vividly demonstrated.

So many ways they could have improved relations and gradually won trust over the past two decades, but no, it's all or nothing: they just cannot let go of the idea that Israel and all the people in it is an abomination that must be eradicated.

That's what they have invested all their wealth into and focused all their attention on: genocide.

I agree. I really don’t get it why some people are so determined to see it as a purely one-sided conflict, with Israel as the sole aggressor, relentlessly and randomly bullying its innocent and helpless neighbours.
Why not at least acknowledge issues on both sides?
I was reading the other day how the blockade in Gaza that people mention so often was only implemented about two years after Israel had withdrawn from Gaza in 2005 and after Hamas had been elected (implemented also by Egypt, not just Israel).
Surely those two years could have been used to build trust and gradually improve mutual relations?

wrongthinker · 11/10/2025 12:45

Beachtastic · 11/10/2025 10:44

There are some very obvious reasons why Palestinians have been "forced to live " that way, as 7 October so vividly demonstrated.

So many ways they could have improved relations and gradually won trust over the past two decades, but no, it's all or nothing: they just cannot let go of the idea that Israel and all the people in it is an abomination that must be eradicated.

That's what they have invested all their wealth into and focused all their attention on: genocide.

Exactly. If people want to support Palestinians, the best way is through supporting Israel to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah. Up until a couple of years ago, Palestinians could move to Israel and make a life there (not so the other way around, of course). Israel is the only country in the middle east where you can be gay, unmarried, a feminist, a non-Muslim etc. You would think we would be campaigning for countries to be more like Israel. Where would you rather be as a woman? Iran or Israel? Qatar or Israel?

The flotilla sailed in because they knew they were safe. It didn't require bravery. It required narcissism and ignorance.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 13:35

KoalaKoKo · 11/10/2025 10:38

Article in the Irish Examiner by Sarah Clancy who was on the last Flotilla about her experiences and motivations. I found it really moving when she talked about a phone call with a Palestinian who was preparing for their arrival in Gaza and had to explain Israel was likely to intercept them. He said:

No, you don’t understand, you have already done it, you have already arrived,” he said. “We tell our children each night that the world hasn’t forgotten them, they are watching your boats coming and we are telling them stories of this, that while this genocide happened people from the world were sailing, because they love Palestinian people”.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-41721615.html

….
This is so lovely but also deeply heartbreaking. My mum spent a month in Palestine a few years ago and was struck by how generous the people were and how incredibly welcoming they were to guests, going without while giving their guests things they couldn’t afford. My mum and her friend were due to return the favour and have some Palestinian guests stay in their town but they weren’t allowed to travel. I remember 27 years ago as a teenager going to a talk by a Palestinian poet who I admired only to find Israel had also stopped him travelling so instead someone read his poems on his behalf. To not be allowed your own airport, own sea ports, to have your poets and intellectuals banned from travelling. We are so lucky go be able to book flights without worry, to drive across the country without borders and checkpoints. The people on the flotilla are so brave challenging this and bringing awareness to how Palestinians have been forced to live. This sea blockade is decades old, if they build an airport it is bombed - their lives are so controlled by Israel and yet they remain hopeful, they continue to write and create - they are extraordinary!

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What a heartbreaking comment there from that Parent in Gaza

So lovely that they know that the world hasn’t forgotten them.
It hadn’t occurred to me they would see the boats sailing towards them as evidence of this

wrongthinker · 11/10/2025 13:41

DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 13:35

What a heartbreaking comment there from that Parent in Gaza

So lovely that they know that the world hasn’t forgotten them.
It hadn’t occurred to me they would see the boats sailing towards them as evidence of this

Of course they are going to notice this stuff. Hamas is absolutely using anything like this in its ideological campaigns. They are laughing themselves sick over how they've duped so many westerners into supporting their campaign of genocide (which absolutely includes those very same westerners, just as soon as they get the chance.)

DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 13:50

wrongthinker · 11/10/2025 13:41

Of course they are going to notice this stuff. Hamas is absolutely using anything like this in its ideological campaigns. They are laughing themselves sick over how they've duped so many westerners into supporting their campaign of genocide (which absolutely includes those very same westerners, just as soon as they get the chance.)

The flotillas as a beacon of hope to Palestinians is worthy of respect

I’m glad it gave Palestinians hope

I don’t care what Hamas think

KoalaKoKo · 11/10/2025 14:01

DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 13:35

What a heartbreaking comment there from that Parent in Gaza

So lovely that they know that the world hasn’t forgotten them.
It hadn’t occurred to me they would see the boats sailing towards them as evidence of this

It is amazing that people who have been so abused and had everything stripped from them can still be so full of positivity and hope. It is something that always strikes me about the Palestinian people!

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DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 14:04

KoalaKoKo · 11/10/2025 14:01

It is amazing that people who have been so abused and had everything stripped from them can still be so full of positivity and hope. It is something that always strikes me about the Palestinian people!

They have nothing left but hope 🙏

wrongthinker · 11/10/2025 14:58

DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 14:04

They have nothing left but hope 🙏

And some hostages, a bunch of weapons, aid coming from Israel, and a vicious propaganda machine that churns out lies for useful idiots to cry over.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/10/2025 15:15

wrongthinker · 11/10/2025 14:58

And some hostages, a bunch of weapons, aid coming from Israel, and a vicious propaganda machine that churns out lies for useful idiots to cry over.

These type of posts are so booooorrrriiinnnngggg

But if you must get the last word in all the time
go ahead
we don’t give a toss

TicklishMauveSquid · 11/10/2025 17:42

KoalaKoKo · 11/10/2025 10:38

Article in the Irish Examiner by Sarah Clancy who was on the last Flotilla about her experiences and motivations. I found it really moving when she talked about a phone call with a Palestinian who was preparing for their arrival in Gaza and had to explain Israel was likely to intercept them. He said:

No, you don’t understand, you have already done it, you have already arrived,” he said. “We tell our children each night that the world hasn’t forgotten them, they are watching your boats coming and we are telling them stories of this, that while this genocide happened people from the world were sailing, because they love Palestinian people”.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-41721615.html

….
This is so lovely but also deeply heartbreaking. My mum spent a month in Palestine a few years ago and was struck by how generous the people were and how incredibly welcoming they were to guests, going without while giving their guests things they couldn’t afford. My mum and her friend were due to return the favour and have some Palestinian guests stay in their town but they weren’t allowed to travel. I remember 27 years ago as a teenager going to a talk by a Palestinian poet who I admired only to find Israel had also stopped him travelling so instead someone read his poems on his behalf. To not be allowed your own airport, own sea ports, to have your poets and intellectuals banned from travelling. We are so lucky go be able to book flights without worry, to drive across the country without borders and checkpoints. The people on the flotilla are so brave challenging this and bringing awareness to how Palestinians have been forced to live. This sea blockade is decades old, if they build an airport it is bombed - their lives are so controlled by Israel and yet they remain hopeful, they continue to write and create - they are extraordinary!

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You know, I find this stuff churned out by Western useful idiots really insidious propaganda which does nothing to help Palestinians. The opposite in fact.

I really don’t believe she had to explain to the Palestinian that Israel was likely to intercept the flotilla. It’s not like there wasn’t one intercepted just a few months ago and many before that which the Palestinian would surely have known about. They have free access to SM. They’ve been posting all over it.

The Palestinian should have been explaining to their children that the war they are suffering through was due to the actions of their leaders and the choices of a large majority of their adult population to vote in and support a terrorist organisation to govern them, who had/has vowed to annihilate their neighbours and had committed barbaric atrocities to deliberately start the war, took hundreds of hostages who were held among them including a baby and toddler they murdered while in captivity and also publicly stated they wanted lots of Palestinian children to die to blame it on their neighbours, when they were given the choice to live in peace and the autonomy to build their own safe, thriving, State so their children didn’t have to grow up in a conflict zone and could have a safe, happy childhood.

Children should be taught that other people’s actions which they pretend they are doing in their name, have consequences and should know the TRUTH.

Perpetuating the lie that all the suffering and fear they are experiencing, death and destruction they are seeing, is all caused by the ‘evil baby killing Jews who have stolen our land’ is not going to protect or encourage Palestinian children to want to grow up in peace. Again it has the opposite effect,

The cycle just continues for the next generation.

HellsBalls · 11/10/2025 18:00

Nobody cares about the flotilla. It’s not in the news, not on the radio, hardly on social media.
People are flogging a dead horse, or more accurately, trying to revive a dead horse.
They got their timing wrong, and the peace plan, and now actual ceasefire, has obliterated their misplaced endeavors.
As Donnie would say, ‘Losers’.

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