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Writer Naoise Dolan Abducted in International Waters

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KoalaKoKo · 08/10/2025 10:59

Writer, Naoise Dolan, has just been illegally abducted from international waters by the Israeli government. Prior to being kidnapped, she wrote about her journey for The Guardian, explaining why they will not get Israel to distribute aid on their behalf.

“Israel likes to ask why we don’t “just” let them distribute our supplies. Besides there being good reason to distrust that this would actually happen when Israel has been deliberately starving Palestinians for two years, doing so would tacitly concede that Israel has the right to control Palestinian waters.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/08/israel-seize-ship-gaza-flotilla-prison

Israel have just abducted 145 peace activists at gunpoint from international waters, in breach of international law. This follows their abduction of 500 people last week, some of which are still in captivity and those who have been released have reported brutal treatment where they were denied access to water, medical care and legal aid.

https://freedomflotilla.org/2025/10/08/iof-attacks/

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TicklishMauveSquid · 09/10/2025 13:50

JacknDiane · 09/10/2025 07:50

I've also noticed the phrase "No Jews No news!" Or similar here, posters saying why are you interested in Gaza so much??

Its obvious they don't want what's happening in Gaza discussed at all, they want Israel to obliterate the place without any discussion or kick back from people appalled at what happened.

But it's not worked. The world has seen what's happening and Israel will be very much a pariah state from now on. No one except their supporters will think of Israel with anything except disgust and horror.

Israel will be absolutely fine.

Probably attract more international investment in their world leading medical, engineering, tech and agriculture sectors, especially high tech defence, now they hopefully won’t have constant rocket bombardments and terrorist attacks.

Are you saying Israel should be treated as a pariah state for fighting a defensive war after suffering one of the wirld’s worst terrorist attacks?

Do you think Germany should still be a pariah country after starting two world wars which killed millions of people and the holocaust?

Or it is just Israel you think should be a pariah State thought of with disgust and horror?

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 14:01

ThatLadyLady · 09/10/2025 13:32

I think you’re very out of your depth in this conversation.

So that would be ‘I am unable to refute your argument so am resorting to ad hominem attacks instead’

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 14:06

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 09/10/2025 13:48

Then they could have just done what they should have done which was leave them be rather than taking them from international waters where they were legally allowed to be.
It would have saved them so much hassle.

But imagine the disappointment! They had been floating around for weeks hoping to be boarded.

I agree Israel should have ignored them rather than give them what they wanted.

KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 14:14

TicklishMauveSquid · 09/10/2025 13:50

Israel will be absolutely fine.

Probably attract more international investment in their world leading medical, engineering, tech and agriculture sectors, especially high tech defence, now they hopefully won’t have constant rocket bombardments and terrorist attacks.

Are you saying Israel should be treated as a pariah state for fighting a defensive war after suffering one of the wirld’s worst terrorist attacks?

Do you think Germany should still be a pariah country after starting two world wars which killed millions of people and the holocaust?

Or it is just Israel you think should be a pariah State thought of with disgust and horror?

The veil is well and truly lifted now, so many more people are aware of the atrocities Israel has committed and continues to commit. Governments that have committed to banning goods from settlements will continue to do so. More governments will recognise a Palestinian state. I would love to see proper sanctions on Israel but we all know that won’t happen. The next best thing is to see IDF soldiers and leaders arrested the second they step out of Israel! I hope we see convictions soon for the genocide.

You say there were no sanctions on Germany??? If you read a history book you will see that Germany was politically isolated and economically punished following WW1 and WW2. The economic sanctions were incredibly harsh after WW1 to the point that their currency was completely devalued and after WW2 there was starvation and people were selling valuable antiques and jewellery for small amounts of food. Berlin was divided and remained divided during many of our lifetimes and it is only in the last few decades that the country became whole again.

Also WW1 was far more complex in who was to blame than WW2 - I don’t think we can blame Germany alone for WW1!

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wrongthinker · 09/10/2025 14:15

I mean, thank God they weren't intercepted by Hamas because it's highly unlikely they would have survived to tell the tale.

Let's be real here. You don't go sailing into a war zone armed only with your white privilege and expect to be treated like a hero unless you're doing it for attention. If they wanted to do something to help the Palestinian people they would have been campaigning for a ceasefire.

wrongthinker · 09/10/2025 14:17

I hope we see convictions soon for the genocide.

Meaningless cant. What kind of "genocide victims" hold hostages from the other side that they could release at any moment to end the "genocide"? What kind of genocide can be ended by the "victims" agreeing to a ceasefire?

Make it make sense.

KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 14:20

wrongthinker · 09/10/2025 14:15

I mean, thank God they weren't intercepted by Hamas because it's highly unlikely they would have survived to tell the tale.

Let's be real here. You don't go sailing into a war zone armed only with your white privilege and expect to be treated like a hero unless you're doing it for attention. If they wanted to do something to help the Palestinian people they would have been campaigning for a ceasefire.

In fairness Hamas don’t have any issue with peace activists, the flotilla’s carried vital medical supplies and had doctors and nurses on board so they likely would have been welcomed. Israel are far more dangerous to peace activists, they have killed quite a few over the years, they are also far more dangerous to doctors and nurses when you look at the numbers imprisoned and murdered!

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PevenseygirlQQ · 09/10/2025 14:21

JacknDiane · 09/10/2025 07:45

Belittling and mocking anyone who shows sympathy with Gaza seems to be the way pro Israel posters operate. Its something I'll remember from this board.

Absolutely!

DrPrunesqualer · 09/10/2025 14:22

wrongthinker · 09/10/2025 14:15

I mean, thank God they weren't intercepted by Hamas because it's highly unlikely they would have survived to tell the tale.

Let's be real here. You don't go sailing into a war zone armed only with your white privilege and expect to be treated like a hero unless you're doing it for attention. If they wanted to do something to help the Palestinian people they would have been campaigning for a ceasefire.

2010 Flotilla to Gaza
9 people on the flotilla killed !
and 30 wounded by Israel

Writer Naoise Dolan Abducted in International Waters
DrPrunesqualer · 09/10/2025 14:23

KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 14:20

In fairness Hamas don’t have any issue with peace activists, the flotilla’s carried vital medical supplies and had doctors and nurses on board so they likely would have been welcomed. Israel are far more dangerous to peace activists, they have killed quite a few over the years, they are also far more dangerous to doctors and nurses when you look at the numbers imprisoned and murdered!

Exactly

ThatLadyLady · 09/10/2025 14:51

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 14:01

So that would be ‘I am unable to refute your argument so am resorting to ad hominem attacks instead’

Well, yes. I’m unable to refute your frankly incoherent argument.

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 14:57

ThatLadyLady · 09/10/2025 14:51

Well, yes. I’m unable to refute your frankly incoherent argument.

Name calling next, you know you want to…

Writer Naoise Dolan Abducted in International Waters
KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 15:16

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 14:57

Name calling next, you know you want to…

Lol you have literally been calling the people on the flotilla’s names and making assertions about them with no evidence or anything to back it up. What is the point of this needless incessant posting, other than to distract the conversation from the real issues and bury the important information and links further down the thread.

For those of you interested in the 145 peace activists, doctors and nurses from around the world who have been abducted and over £110,000 of vital aid stolen- there are detail in this thread on how to contact your governments. You can filter by username to see the ones I have posted.

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KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 15:26

After I posted some links, facts, and figures showing the war crimes of Israel some of the pro Israel posters wrote on the board that pro Israel posters should “ignore” my posts and not engage with me - ie let any evidence I post be pushed down the thread. This has happened on more than one occasion.

I would now say we should use their tactics to stop threads being derailed, if you find someone is starting silly arguments over nothing, deliberately veering the conversation away from the issue and trying to fill the thread with nonsense just ignore them! Don’t respond and as mean children do, pretend it is just the wind! I have gotten drawn in on countless occasions and it goes no where.

At the end of the day the facts speak for themselves, 55,000+ kids suffering from malnutrition, a huge unknown quantity of murder victims and peace activists from around the world abducted at sea. All of the aid agencies and peace keeping groups agree with these facts.

The IDF are war criminals!

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JacknDiane · 09/10/2025 15:30

I agree @KoalaKoKo. It's just so obvious what's going on here.

DrPrunesqualer · 09/10/2025 15:33

KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 15:26

After I posted some links, facts, and figures showing the war crimes of Israel some of the pro Israel posters wrote on the board that pro Israel posters should “ignore” my posts and not engage with me - ie let any evidence I post be pushed down the thread. This has happened on more than one occasion.

I would now say we should use their tactics to stop threads being derailed, if you find someone is starting silly arguments over nothing, deliberately veering the conversation away from the issue and trying to fill the thread with nonsense just ignore them! Don’t respond and as mean children do, pretend it is just the wind! I have gotten drawn in on countless occasions and it goes no where.

At the end of the day the facts speak for themselves, 55,000+ kids suffering from malnutrition, a huge unknown quantity of murder victims and peace activists from around the world abducted at sea. All of the aid agencies and peace keeping groups agree with these facts.

The IDF are war criminals!

The IDF act on orders from the Israeli Government

They are both complicit

TicklishMauveSquid · 09/10/2025 15:45

KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 15:26

After I posted some links, facts, and figures showing the war crimes of Israel some of the pro Israel posters wrote on the board that pro Israel posters should “ignore” my posts and not engage with me - ie let any evidence I post be pushed down the thread. This has happened on more than one occasion.

I would now say we should use their tactics to stop threads being derailed, if you find someone is starting silly arguments over nothing, deliberately veering the conversation away from the issue and trying to fill the thread with nonsense just ignore them! Don’t respond and as mean children do, pretend it is just the wind! I have gotten drawn in on countless occasions and it goes no where.

At the end of the day the facts speak for themselves, 55,000+ kids suffering from malnutrition, a huge unknown quantity of murder victims and peace activists from around the world abducted at sea. All of the aid agencies and peace keeping groups agree with these facts.

The IDF are war criminals!

TBF I haven’t seen you post much in way of evidence to support your assertions at all. Propaganda yes.

I just response to posts I want to respond to.

The IDF are an army fighting an unprecedented war against heinous terrorists IMO. Brave men and women, most still in or barely out of their teens, some Arab Muslim, Druze, Christian, fighting alongside Jews, against evil, cowardly, terrorists who committed the type of barbaric atrocities of Oct 7th, who hide behind children to save themselves in a war they started.

You are entitled to your very biased view of them though.

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 15:51

KoalaKoKo · 09/10/2025 15:16

Lol you have literally been calling the people on the flotilla’s names and making assertions about them with no evidence or anything to back it up. What is the point of this needless incessant posting, other than to distract the conversation from the real issues and bury the important information and links further down the thread.

For those of you interested in the 145 peace activists, doctors and nurses from around the world who have been abducted and over £110,000 of vital aid stolen- there are detail in this thread on how to contact your governments. You can filter by username to see the ones I have posted.

Care to link to the post where I have called them names? I have said they are privileged because they are. No one who is not privileged has the luxury of sitting around on boats in the Mediterranean waiting for the publicity that comes from being boarded by the Israelis. No one who is not privileged is flown back to a welcoming party in Libya a few days after being arrested. No one who is not privileged gets released from Israeli jails as quickly as that!

wrongthinker · 09/10/2025 16:58

Whatever way you look at it, people are fucking stupid to involve themselves in a war zone if they don't have to and are not trained to. Especially when they are doing it to virtue signal on behalf of terrorists.

DrPrunesqualer · 09/10/2025 17:40

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 15:51

Care to link to the post where I have called them names? I have said they are privileged because they are. No one who is not privileged has the luxury of sitting around on boats in the Mediterranean waiting for the publicity that comes from being boarded by the Israelis. No one who is not privileged is flown back to a welcoming party in Libya a few days after being arrested. No one who is not privileged gets released from Israeli jails as quickly as that!

You called those on the flotilla anti semitic by equating their actions as antisemitism ( 8:06 today)
You also called another poster antisemitic

thats a disgrace ! and a clear slur

but I agree those on the Flotillas are privileged. They aren’t being bombed in Gaza, they haven’t lost their homes, livelihoods and friends and families.

Absentosaur · 09/10/2025 17:41

Play silly games win silly prizes

CatchingtheCat · 09/10/2025 17:49

Where in that post do I refer to the flotilla?

HellsBalls · 09/10/2025 18:07

DrPrunesqualer · 09/10/2025 14:22

2010 Flotilla to Gaza
9 people on the flotilla killed !
and 30 wounded by Israel

You missed a bit.
“Aboard the Turkish ship MV Mavi Marmara, the Israeli Navy faced resistance from about 40 of the 590 passengers, including IHH activists[5] who were said to be armed with iron bars and knives.”

MV Mavi Marmara - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Mavi_Marmara

DrPrunesqualer · 09/10/2025 18:20

HellsBalls · 09/10/2025 18:07

You missed a bit.
“Aboard the Turkish ship MV Mavi Marmara, the Israeli Navy faced resistance from about 40 of the 590 passengers, including IHH activists[5] who were said to be armed with iron bars and knives.”

And you missed a bit
re summary executions !!

Writer Naoise Dolan Abducted in International Waters
Writer Naoise Dolan Abducted in International Waters