Trump-Netanyahu news conference

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Trump says Netanyahu has agreed to US Gaza peace plan

Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are now in front of the media for their joint news conference, with US and Israeli flags as their backdrop.

Trump starts by saying "this is a big, big day, potentially one of the greatest days ever in civilisation".

He thanks Netanyahu "for really getting in there and doing a job".

"We worked well together, as we have with many other countries," he says.

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-netanyahu-to-meet-trump-as-hostage-families-tell-us-president-we-need-you-13440749

He didn’t “break the ceasefire”.

The first stage of the ceasefire had ended and they were in a pause situation before the start of the phase of stage 2.

Only they never got to stage 2 because the negotiations broke down & Israel decided that Hamas were not negotiating in good faith.

Sounds plausible doesn’t it? That Hamas wouldn’t be negotiating in good faith?

Unless you trust Hamas more than Israel to be telling the truth about why negotiations broke down. Which the staunchest anti Israel people on here do seem to do.

Hamas have to agree first. Should they? Some don’t sound keen on here, sadly it’s Hamas who decide not Gazans.

The Hamas leaders and senior operatives based in Gaza now report to themselves. They have no time for the Hamas leaders in Doha who they (correctly) see as living lives in luxury whilst they do the actual fighting.

The full 20 point plan (not 21 points like the leaked document) via the White House:

• Gaza will be a deradicalized terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.
• Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.
• If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.
• Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.
• Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1700 Gazans who were detained after October 7th 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.
• Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.
• Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025, agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.
• Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement.
• Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace,” which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.
• A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.
• A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.
• No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.
• Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration program all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.
• A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people.
• The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties.
• Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the Unites States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.
• In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.
• An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.
• While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.
• The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence.

Note clause 17 - they intend to start to proceed with or without Hamas agreement.

• In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.

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Yes, what I meant, which obviously didn't come over is, if they are all behind it, then perhaps, everyone else should hope it goes ahead. Even if they are all behind it, Hamas and its supporters likely wont be. Perhaps people on here wont be either. It feels like some want the conflict to continue rather than get behind this peace plan which many, many nations in the middle east support. I hope it succeeds snd Hamas bugger off.

Good. Someone needs to start the, peace plan, sod Hamas, just move forward planning the best for both sides, rather than relying on Hamas to do the best thing for Gazans. Let's face it they have never done the best for Gazans since elected many years ago. It was always serving the Hamas leaders rather than the people.

Quite a lot of silence considering this plan covers do.much and is a real chance for peace.

Ah yes I completely agree with you.

It’s something to see people on here pushing against it.

Let’s not forget this! He will find a reason to continue this war, no matter what he promises Trump or anyone else.

Very odd since I'd assumed everyone would want the conflict to end. Sooner it goes ahead, and the sooner the conflict ends, the better.

Trumps in charge. He will have to do what Trump wants. The fact that so many nations are for it, is the key thing.

Give it a chance. People want the fighting to end. Hamas are the only ones against at this point.

That is the obvious attitude that anyone who genuinely hates the war will hold.

A positive feeling that the horrible war could be over very soon, not being overly negative about everything.

Blair and Trump leading a 'peace party', what in the apocalypse is going on?

Overall I'm cautiously optimistic.

I am concerned though about the proposed ISF - UNIFIL in Lebanon were completely ineffective, and completely cowed by Hezbollah. I'm worried about it happening again with the ISF and Hamas/PIJ - I hope that this has been heavily considered.
Houthis/Iran - Will the Houthis back off? Will Iran be deterred with this?
Hamas - if they refuse, will it be possible to go ahead without their agreement? What will happen with the hostages if it does go ahead without their agreement?

You said the same thing about the aid distrubtion centres where people are killed daily, why are people so negative,why can't they just clap along with the plan that every aid organisation is warning against.

I don't understand why you expect people to clap like seals at every plan of Trump and Netanyahu. Of course people are cautious. Since Trump has come into power he has spent his time plotting with Netanyahu about ethnic cleansing and real estate. He has said that once the hostages are home the 'job' will be finished in Gaza. The government of Israel have repeatedly pushed genocidal rhetoric. A not insignificant number of Israelis back the idea of getting the hostages home then continuing the killing spree.

Palestinians are extremely vulnerable it's normal to be concerned about extremely vulnerable people whose lives are being decided by meglomaniacs and genocidal killers.

Instead of negativity what do you think about the 20 points? It seems middle eastern countries are behind it. But what do they know hey, perhaps they actually want peace! Seems many on here don't.

I'm absolutely horrified by the whole thing. The way it's being delivered. The 'accept or be obliterated', the idea that it's kind of Israel to give them water, the suggestion that they won't 'annexe' Gaza when it was already essentially so before October the 7tht, the Trumpian AI generated vision of Gaza as a seaside tourist destination and the whitewashing of the horror and trauma inflicted on those people.

It's absolutely and utterly abhorrent.

Blair is just the cherry on the turd.

• Clause 17 of the peace plan says that In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.

So it will start to go ahead with or without Hamas agreement, only the warfare in Gaza city will continue and many more civilians will get killed in amongst the Hamas operatives while they deliberate.

Re the hostages, they are obviously vulnerable at this time - then again when haven't they been vulnerable in the last (almost) 2 years?

Hamas still have a reason to co-operate which is in the clause: Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.

I agree with pp. An end to the conflict is better than continuing.

Being horrified by a peace plan is what is abhorrent to me.

So you disagree with all the leaders and the UN who are in support? It’s only Hamas against and some online.

Mostly though, the utterly ridiculous thing is that anyone believes or trusts a single word that comes out of the mouth of Trump or Netanyahu, liars and criminals as they are.