Footage shows public executions in Gaza City street

[Twiglets1]

BBC Verify: Footage has emerged showing the public executions of three men accused of being Israeli collaborators in Gaza City.

BBC Verify has verified that the location of the executions was a street outside Shifa hospital in the centre of the city, which is the focus of a major Israeli ground offensive.

Videos circulating on Sunday evening showed at least five armed and masked men, three blindfolded Palestinian men kneeling on the ground and a large crowd.

One of the armed men is heard saying: "The death sentence has been decided for all collaborators".

There are cheers before the three men are pushed to the ground and shot several times in the back of the head. The crowd then praises Hamas's armed wing, the Qassam Brigades.

A Palestinian security official from the Hamas-run Gaza government told Reuters that the executions were carried out by the "Joint Operations Room of the Palestinian resistance".

This is a rare instance in which a public execution in Gaza has been captured on video. There have been previous reports of Hamas using violence on those who dissent. In May, Hamas-led groups reportedly executed four Palestinians for looting aid trucks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99g3p52k15o

This has always been my concern.

So at some point the conflict in Gaza will end either with the removal of Hams plus the destruction of Gaza or Hamas stay in power plus the destruction of Gaza.

What I find particularly worrying is that if there are already people in the West making excuses for terrorist killings because of Gaza then it is a very short step for people in the West to make excuses for terrorist killings in the West because of Gaza.

The vocal
supporters of Free Palestine/Hamas in the west give zero fucks about Palestine and Palestinians. They are motivated by their disaffection from power structures in the west - this is them railing against their real or perceived alienation in the west.

they are too dumb to realise how extraordinary boring old liberal democracies are and the understand what they are championing.

their discourse is entirely unrelated to any discourse about the reality of what is happening in Gaza. That is why it is impossible to engage meaningfully with them because they are ideological zealots.

they do no one a greater disservice than the people suffering in Gaza - both Palestinians and the hostages.

Agreed. But can't help thinking some of them are motivated by something else.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/understanding-hamass-and-hezbollahs-uses-information-technology

"should not be the exception in Gaza—it can be the model, the new norm. The vast majority of Gazans reject Hamas. They don’t want it to remain in power after the war ends. But though they hate Hamas, they still fear it. Since protests began earlier this year calling for the group’s removal, demonstrators have been killed, tortured or forced into hiding."

So one of the 'collaborators ' was working to remove Hamas and create better conditions going forward.

Oh yes very much. There are also some very bad actors who know exactly what they are doing among the ignorant virtue signalers.

Well mumsnet has been awash with Israeli bots for a couple of years.

Like who? Most posters sympathetic to Israel are clearly normal people like me. We are regularly abused and accused of being paid by Israel, of course. If you think a poster is a bot you should report.

That’s a bit of a reach!

This! It’s like the fucking middle ages & yet so many people support the terrorists.

I think both the Israelis and Hamas have got their hands a bit too full right now to be engaging paid bots to post on MN.

Lmao. I've just read your posts now. Your accusations that I have 'Inside information', your concern that Hamas are on mumsnet? Are you actually insinuating that I'm a member of Hamas? I have a rotten cold right now but the thought of you sitting around all concerned that you are communicating with Hamas on mumsnet has really made me laugh. I have a roll of tinfoil in the kitchen you can borrow if you want to make yourself a hat

You think all the posters sympathetic to Israel are Israeli?

Says a lot doesn’t it?

Many of the posters who are sympathetic to Israel have mentioned that they (like me) are not Israeli or Jewish.

It’s not a “tactic” just people with different opinions to you.

Posters sounding like they attending the “same school” cuts both ways as we see the same points raised time and time again by people on the Pro Palestinian side.

Some come across like they really hate Israel and did so long before 7/10. Yes hating Israel with a passion does seem antisemitic.

Yes @Twiglets1 Im neither Israeli nor Jewish. I’ve certainly never been ‘indoctrinated’.

I’ve said it before, but @SameOldHill if this is what it’s like when pro-Palestinian people are ‘kept silent’, I dread to think what it will be like when you start making a noise!

Palestinians again showing the world who they are, yet it's dismissed with whataboutery and excuses. Is it because the hatred of Jews is just so strong? Is it an inconvenience that gets in the way of painting Palestinians as a bunch of innocents at the mercy of the big bad Jews? Or is it the racism of low expectations? Are Arabs not expected to behave any better than this so their 'supporters' turn a blind eye?

Hiya. I am British. Never served in any army, let alone the Israeli one. However I am not so open minded that my brains have fallen out.

HTH

They're just terrorists. They can't be expected to behave.

It doesn't read to me like you have any insider information. With that in mind, what was the basis for what you posted yesterday about the men who were lynched?

And the ordinary 'civilians' cheering them on?

I also remember the hostage release ceremonies with Palestinian civilians taking their kids as if it was a day out. Even when the hostages were going home in coffins. And when they encouraged their kids to deface the pictures of the Bibas brothers after their coffins had been taken away. It feels like their whole society is sick to its very core

“Awash with Israeli bots”?
There’s thread upon thread on any type of wrongdoing on the Israeli side (without mentioning the role of Hamas very much) and there is what seems like a handful of posters who express sympathy for the Israelis and who seem to see the conflict as more complex than just black and white, good vs bad.
Where are you seeing all the “Israeli bots”?

If I was a Gazan civilian I'd make sure I was seen to support Hamas.

Although broadly I feel my stance is pro Israel, I can sympathize with Gazan civilians to a certain extent. They've been bought up in a radicalized society, told since birth they are victims of Israel, and violence is seen as an absolutely legitimate form of resistance. I think in this atmosphere a significant proportion of any society would act this way. I think its human.
The huge problem I think is when the violent extremists are in charge. Of education, employment, the military etc. The problem is one of leadership.

In a nutshell, thats why I think Hamas has to go. There's no future for a Palestinian state with them in power. Only more radical violence.

People on here constantly posting, saying they don't support Hamas, but then in same breath saying 'Its resistance, it didn't start on 7 October, Israel are the colonizers, we can't expect Hamas to behave with any humanity' etc I've heard people say literally things taken straight from the poster Hamas made of BN as a vampire- I despair sometimes. But overall I believe Gazan civilians are more victims of Hamas than Israel.