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Footage shows public executions in Gaza City street

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Twiglets1 · 23/09/2025 07:20

BBC Verify: Footage has emerged showing the public executions of three men accused of being Israeli collaborators in Gaza City.

BBC Verify has verified that the location of the executions was a street outside Shifa hospital in the centre of the city, which is the focus of a major Israeli ground offensive.

Videos circulating on Sunday evening showed at least five armed and masked men, three blindfolded Palestinian men kneeling on the ground and a large crowd.

One of the armed men is heard saying: "The death sentence has been decided for all collaborators".

There are cheers before the three men are pushed to the ground and shot several times in the back of the head. The crowd then praises Hamas's armed wing, the Qassam Brigades.

A Palestinian security official from the Hamas-run Gaza government told Reuters that the executions were carried out by the "Joint Operations Room of the Palestinian resistance".

This is a rare instance in which a public execution in Gaza has been captured on video. There have been previous reports of Hamas using violence on those who dissent. In May, Hamas-led groups reportedly executed four Palestinians for looting aid trucks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99g3p52k15o

qassam brigades seen in file photo

Footage shows public executions in Gaza City street

Hamas-linked social media channels say "three collaborators who were spying for the occupation" were executed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99g3p52k15o

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User37482 · 24/09/2025 09:33

I said on another thread that if there was ever a two state solution then Palestine would descend into a state of civil war pretty rapidly.

I don’t understand how people can simultaneously think that Hamas doesn’t represent Palestinians yet excuse the execution of clan members who are fighting them. Maybe the clans are the actual resistance in Gaza? They have always been like this, it’s not the current war, it’s how they operate, they terrorise people.

I really don’t understand how any Hamas member can look any Gazan in the eye after bringing this down on their heads whilst full well knowing returning the hostages and surrendering would have brought an end to this 2 years ago.

Timeforabitofpeace · 24/09/2025 09:56

The “savages” at this stage are clearly the Israelis.

Timeforabitofpeace · 24/09/2025 09:56

And the Israeli propaganda machine won’t change that fact.

Twiglets1 · 24/09/2025 10:06

Timeforabitofpeace · 24/09/2025 09:56

The “savages” at this stage are clearly the Israelis.

Even if some of the IDF behave like savages or some of the government surely it's also the case that Hamas are savages too.

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EasternStandard · 24/09/2025 11:00

Timeforabitofpeace · 24/09/2025 09:56

The “savages” at this stage are clearly the Israelis.

What are your thoughts on Hamas?

Imperativvv · 24/09/2025 11:32

dairydebris · 24/09/2025 09:05

It wasn't set up to say look at those savage Palestinians. It was set up to say- look at savage Hamas. Why would you think otherwise?

I despair for Gazan civilians. Trapped between the IDF who obviously accept an atrocious level of civilian deaths in their war aims, and their own government who shoots dissidents and refuses to surrender actively courts their own death in support of the cause. I cant imagine the hopelessness. All those people still in Gaza City- are they thinking- I have nothing to live for, I will die soon one way or another, why should I leave?

You seem truly invested in the idea that some of us hate Palestinians. Speaking for myself, I dont. I hate Hamas. You also seem invested in the idea that some of us are cheering on the violence. Again, I haven't seen any cheering on. Its awful to watch the violence and I fervently hope it all ends asap. We only disagree on how the end should come about- but we all hope for it.

Thats me done for today. Another absolute rabbithole of a thread.

Yep. Basically, that poster's argument rests on the frankly deranged assumption that Hamas are somehow the more legitimate representatives of the Palestinian people than those who oppose them.

KoalaKoKo · 24/09/2025 11:36

SisterTeatime · 24/09/2025 07:42

I have human compassion for everyone suffering in this war.

Can’t you see that it’s a tragedy when a child is shot by a sniper whether that child presents a danger or not, because no child should ever be put in a position in which it MIGHT present a lethal threat? A child that’s a Hamas operative is still a child.

Can’t you see that it’s a tragedy that a man like Sinwar, clearly highly intelligent and capable, chose as his crowning achievement Oct 7 and the misery that’s followed?

While I do think that a lot of terrorists have got their just deserts jn this war, every death is a waste.

I think your perspective on the executions is naive at best. You can insult me all day long, you’re not going to change my perspective on an organisation that executes its people in the street.

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Wow are you really using that excuse again - there are no children working as operatives for Hamas, there are no child soliders! Hamas, as awful as they are, banned the practise of using children over 20 years ago. Lots of reports and literature about it - it has been covered multiple times on multiple threads. The arm chair soldiers of Israel will need to find a new excuse on why it’s okay to murder and dismember children - get your thinking hats on, it’s a pretty hard one! Personally I can’t think of a single justification.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 24/09/2025 11:56

Imperativvv · 24/09/2025 11:32

Yep. Basically, that poster's argument rests on the frankly deranged assumption that Hamas are somehow the more legitimate representatives of the Palestinian people than those who oppose them.

Armed fighters funded and encouraged by Israel, the same country that is committing war crimes on the people, are unlikely to be considered legitimate representatives.

Trying to be an alternative to Hamas is one thing, working with the enemy is collaboration. Anyone funded by the same machine that's committing genocide against your people, isn't exactly going to be welcomed with warm arms.

Imperativvv · 24/09/2025 12:08

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 24/09/2025 11:56

Armed fighters funded and encouraged by Israel, the same country that is committing war crimes on the people, are unlikely to be considered legitimate representatives.

Trying to be an alternative to Hamas is one thing, working with the enemy is collaboration. Anyone funded by the same machine that's committing genocide against your people, isn't exactly going to be welcomed with warm arms.

The problems with this point are that one, Israel has supported and facilitated the funding of Hamas also. Netanyahu is actually balls deep in that particular problem.

Two, that Hamas has committed gross atrocities against the Palestinian civilian population, and refused to allow elections that would give them legitimacy.

And three, that it is the actions of Hamas (plus some civilian supporters, granted) in the October 7th invasion, for which they sought and had no consent from the Palestinian or even just Gazan people, that were the immediate cause of the present Israeli invasion. These are also not things liable to paint them as legitimate representatives. And that's the other part of the argument that would need to be made.

KoalaKoKo · 24/09/2025 12:50

One thing I find interesting is the arm chair soldiers are saying they would never cheer a collaborators death while simultaneously justifying the deaths of children as collateral damage or as child soldiers. Funny you know how you have such strong morals in one situation but not the other.

Did you know after World War 2 (and most wars) people deemed collaborators were executed and often punished using sexual crimes - punishing collaborators is a common phenomenon as people who have been put through the worst moments look for someone to blame. In France women had their heads shaved, were raped and were marched naked through the streets as people cheered. Many women were deemed collaborators because they had slept with Nazis and in a lot of cases it wasn’t consensual, some were deemed collaborators because the Nazis took over their houses and they didn’t fight them. In every war you have collaborators punished - often by an angry mob and usually without trial - it is not unique to Hamas though they are of course pretty awful.

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/09/2025 12:54

KoalaKoKo · 24/09/2025 12:50

One thing I find interesting is the arm chair soldiers are saying they would never cheer a collaborators death while simultaneously justifying the deaths of children as collateral damage or as child soldiers. Funny you know how you have such strong morals in one situation but not the other.

Did you know after World War 2 (and most wars) people deemed collaborators were executed and often punished using sexual crimes - punishing collaborators is a common phenomenon as people who have been put through the worst moments look for someone to blame. In France women had their heads shaved, were raped and were marched naked through the streets as people cheered. Many women were deemed collaborators because they had slept with Nazis and in a lot of cases it wasn’t consensual, some were deemed collaborators because the Nazis took over their houses and they didn’t fight them. In every war you have collaborators punished - often by an angry mob and usually without trial - it is not unique to Hamas though they are of course pretty awful.

I’ve linked the treatment of collaborators back thread and yet somehow the pro Israeli people on this thread seem to believe that Israeli collaborators should be held to UN observed trial.

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 13:00

KoalaKoKo · 24/09/2025 11:36

Wow are you really using that excuse again - there are no children working as operatives for Hamas, there are no child soliders! Hamas, as awful as they are, banned the practise of using children over 20 years ago. Lots of reports and literature about it - it has been covered multiple times on multiple threads. The arm chair soldiers of Israel will need to find a new excuse on why it’s okay to murder and dismember children - get your thinking hats on, it’s a pretty hard one! Personally I can’t think of a single justification.

And you know that is untrue. As I pointed out to you this morning on a different thread.

We all know Hamas officially banned child soldiers but its blatantly obvious that they didn't stop bringing up children to glorify martyrdom and killing Jews and also continue to use them in the front line too. Of course they continue to recruit and use children (people under 18).
https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/AHRC46NGO42_050321.pdf
There's plenty more if you look. Often found in articles that document extensive use of child soldiers across the middle east and africa.

EasternStandard · 24/09/2025 13:09

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/09/2025 12:54

I’ve linked the treatment of collaborators back thread and yet somehow the pro Israeli people on this thread seem to believe that Israeli collaborators should be held to UN observed trial.

If you can excuse these public executions due to collaborators claim how do you justify Hamas shooting protesters?

Beachtastic · 24/09/2025 13:14

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/09/2025 12:54

I’ve linked the treatment of collaborators back thread and yet somehow the pro Israeli people on this thread seem to believe that Israeli collaborators should be held to UN observed trial.

That's not it, at all... don't YOU find it depressing to see the inevitable fate of whoever actually has the bravery to stand up to Hamas in Gaza? (if indeed that's what they were doing, and it wasn't all just a fake accusation, which it might have been....) Imagine how different everything could be for everyone, by now, if there were more people like that in Gaza. The executions show why that's unlikely. Doesn't that bother you at all? Or do you only find it possible to believe that Gazans are oppressed by Israel, and not by their own government?

More importantly, and for the purposes of this thread, it's disturbing because it shows what kind of totalitarian, terror-based control might be rewarded with recognition as legitimate government. If you are concerned for the welfare of Gazans, why are you not seriously worried by this sort of thing?

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/09/2025 13:16

EasternStandard · 24/09/2025 13:09

If you can excuse these public executions due to collaborators claim how do you justify Hamas shooting protesters?

I am not and have never justified Hamas.

I find the pro Israeli contingent have an unhealthy obsession with tarring anything pro Palestinian = Hamas. Look at your own house, an obsessive leader desperate to land grab and within Israel I see more and more soldiers refusing to serve in Gaza because they know the truth of what they are doing - killing unarmed civillians.

EasternStandard · 24/09/2025 13:26

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/09/2025 13:16

I am not and have never justified Hamas.

I find the pro Israeli contingent have an unhealthy obsession with tarring anything pro Palestinian = Hamas. Look at your own house, an obsessive leader desperate to land grab and within Israel I see more and more soldiers refusing to serve in Gaza because they know the truth of what they are doing - killing unarmed civillians.

I don’t have a ‘house’. I’m not Israeli or Jewish even. Not a great assumption.

As for the other part pp have said already they are separating Hamas on this. Which is why there’s no justification for it. That seems to be coming from the well they would be like this posts below.

EasternStandard · 24/09/2025 13:28

dairydebris · 24/09/2025 09:05

It wasn't set up to say look at those savage Palestinians. It was set up to say- look at savage Hamas. Why would you think otherwise?

I despair for Gazan civilians. Trapped between the IDF who obviously accept an atrocious level of civilian deaths in their war aims, and their own government who shoots dissidents and refuses to surrender actively courts their own death in support of the cause. I cant imagine the hopelessness. All those people still in Gaza City- are they thinking- I have nothing to live for, I will die soon one way or another, why should I leave?

You seem truly invested in the idea that some of us hate Palestinians. Speaking for myself, I dont. I hate Hamas. You also seem invested in the idea that some of us are cheering on the violence. Again, I haven't seen any cheering on. Its awful to watch the violence and I fervently hope it all ends asap. We only disagree on how the end should come about- but we all hope for it.

Thats me done for today. Another absolute rabbithole of a thread.

This says it well.

GladioliGreen · 24/09/2025 16:26

Beachtastic · 24/09/2025 13:14

That's not it, at all... don't YOU find it depressing to see the inevitable fate of whoever actually has the bravery to stand up to Hamas in Gaza? (if indeed that's what they were doing, and it wasn't all just a fake accusation, which it might have been....) Imagine how different everything could be for everyone, by now, if there were more people like that in Gaza. The executions show why that's unlikely. Doesn't that bother you at all? Or do you only find it possible to believe that Gazans are oppressed by Israel, and not by their own government?

More importantly, and for the purposes of this thread, it's disturbing because it shows what kind of totalitarian, terror-based control might be rewarded with recognition as legitimate government. If you are concerned for the welfare of Gazans, why are you not seriously worried by this sort of thing?

Do you know who this gang armed by Israel are? The IS fighters that you are describing as brave? This gang took part in the looting of UN aid under Israels watch causing widespread hunger, they looted a convoy of 109 trucks(amongst other looting), even taking the tyres. Their looting done under the watchful eye of Israel, armed by Israel 'kicked the legs out from under the UN system'. Israel and all of their mouthpieces then went in to blame Hamas and talk about how the UN were in collusion with Hamas. They used it as an excuse to stop aid to all men, women and children for 3 months, posters here justified that stoppage of aid repeatedly.

The leader is widely known throughout Palestine for being a criminal, untrustworthy and mentally unstable. He was in prison for murder and drugs charges.

Worst of all is the damage that this IS group is doing to the anti Hamas movement. They are creating the idea that being anti Hamas means being collaborative with the IDF and Israel because that's exactly what Abu Shabab are in the worst possible way.

What's disturbing is your post describing an IS gang as brave and wishing there were more people like that in Gaza.

Twiglets1 · 24/09/2025 16:40

GladioliGreen · 24/09/2025 16:26

Do you know who this gang armed by Israel are? The IS fighters that you are describing as brave? This gang took part in the looting of UN aid under Israels watch causing widespread hunger, they looted a convoy of 109 trucks(amongst other looting), even taking the tyres. Their looting done under the watchful eye of Israel, armed by Israel 'kicked the legs out from under the UN system'. Israel and all of their mouthpieces then went in to blame Hamas and talk about how the UN were in collusion with Hamas. They used it as an excuse to stop aid to all men, women and children for 3 months, posters here justified that stoppage of aid repeatedly.

The leader is widely known throughout Palestine for being a criminal, untrustworthy and mentally unstable. He was in prison for murder and drugs charges.

Worst of all is the damage that this IS group is doing to the anti Hamas movement. They are creating the idea that being anti Hamas means being collaborative with the IDF and Israel because that's exactly what Abu Shabab are in the worst possible way.

What's disturbing is your post describing an IS gang as brave and wishing there were more people like that in Gaza.

How do you know who the 3 men are that were executed?

The BBC source says that In Sunday's footage, one armed man singles out Yasser Abu Shabab as a "major collaborator" who they seek to kill.

I haven't seen anything written about the other men executed and we only have Hamas identifying Yasser Shabab.

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Beachtastic · 24/09/2025 17:05

GladioliGreen · 24/09/2025 16:26

Do you know who this gang armed by Israel are? The IS fighters that you are describing as brave? This gang took part in the looting of UN aid under Israels watch causing widespread hunger, they looted a convoy of 109 trucks(amongst other looting), even taking the tyres. Their looting done under the watchful eye of Israel, armed by Israel 'kicked the legs out from under the UN system'. Israel and all of their mouthpieces then went in to blame Hamas and talk about how the UN were in collusion with Hamas. They used it as an excuse to stop aid to all men, women and children for 3 months, posters here justified that stoppage of aid repeatedly.

The leader is widely known throughout Palestine for being a criminal, untrustworthy and mentally unstable. He was in prison for murder and drugs charges.

Worst of all is the damage that this IS group is doing to the anti Hamas movement. They are creating the idea that being anti Hamas means being collaborative with the IDF and Israel because that's exactly what Abu Shabab are in the worst possible way.

What's disturbing is your post describing an IS gang as brave and wishing there were more people like that in Gaza.

How do you know this?

Beachtastic · 24/09/2025 17:15

Just to add, I posted with the caveat that we can only guess at the reasons for the execution. They were described as "collaborators" so it was a reasonable guess that they meant collaboration with Israel, but you seem much closer to the source.

tramtracks · 24/09/2025 17:24

dairydebris · 24/09/2025 08:26

I'd just like to point out that any rival political faction to Hamas will indeed have to be armed and collaborate with Israel. Collaboration with Israel is the only way forward for a Palestinian state.

This is an extra judicial execution, and people on here are sympathizing with Hamas over it.

It boggles my mind ( yet again ) that on a post about an atrocity commited by Hamas to the detriment of its own people, rather than people popping up to wholeheartedly condemn it instead we have the usual suspects just here to criticize Israel.

Gazan civilians are being brutalized by both Israel, their enemy in this war, and by their own government, whos purpose should be to protect them and improve their lives. Theres absolutely no way forward for Palestine with Hamas anywhere near power.

Im aware Hamas isnt on mumsnet but I'm absolutely sure they are emboldened by this kind of attitude in the West.

Those on this thread just to point out the sins of Israel rather than just calling for Hamas to f off forever should be asking themselves why they care more about hating Israel than Hamas.

Are we sure Hamas isn’t on Mumsnet…
I think all social media is infiltrated by all groups, terrorise or non terrorist.

Beachtastic · 24/09/2025 17:25

Intrigued, I just looked up Yasser Abu Shabab and can see why Hamas would want him dead, based on his article in the Wall Street Journal a month ago.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/gazans-are-finished-with-hamas-commander-popular-forces-5d9a6345

Your take on him is obviously very different, @GladioliGreen , and I'm curious to know where you're getting your inside information from?

Edited to quote the article:
For the past seven weeks, our neighborhood has become the only area in Gaza governed by a Palestinian administration not affiliated with Hamas since 2007. Our armed patrols have successfully kept Hamas and other militant groups out. As a result, life here no longer feels like life in Gaza. In eastern Rafah, people have access to shelter, food, water, and basic medical supplies—all without fear of Hamas stealing aid or being caught in the crossfire with the Israeli military.
The effect has been tremendous: no more airstrike casualties, no chaotic aid lines, no evacuation orders, and no fear of booby-trapped homes or children being used as human shields by Hamas. While there is still much to improve, people now sleep at night without fear of death.
This should not be the exception in Gaza—it can be the model, the new norm. The vast majority of Gazans reject Hamas. They don’t want it to remain in power after the war ends. But though they hate Hamas, they still fear it. Since protests began earlier this year calling for the group’s removal, demonstrators have been killed, tortured or forced into hiding.
My own family didn’t take part in those protests, but when Hamas killed my brother, Fathi Abu Shabab, and my cousin, Ibrahim Abu Shabab, for trying to secure aid for our family—and when 52 civilians under our care were murdered in their homes—I realized that silence is no longer an option. If we remain quiet now, we will never be free, cease-fire or not.
This may be our only chance to secure a future that rejects violence and embraces reason. What has prevented most Gazans from expressing their true anger at Hamas is the lack of a viable alternative. Hamas still controls aid access and dominates institutions like the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East, or Unrwa. Hamas still turns aid centers into hubs for its own operations. In some areas, the only thing preventing people from fleeing is the presence of Israeli troops, which might withdraw as part of a cease-fire.
No one else has been willing to step up and risk publicly breaking with Hamas. Those fears lost their meaning for me after my brother and cousin were murdered. Hamas has labeled me a criminal and collaborator, but I am not intimidated by them. I won’t surrender.
Through our efforts, we have shown a glimpse of what a new Gaza could look like. We have already received requests from many families to relocate to eastern Rafah. With proper support, we are ready to take responsibility for the rest of Rafah. Within months, more than 600,000 people—nearly a third of Gaza’s population—could be living outside the cycle of war.
We need only three things to make this vision a reality: financial support to prevent Hamas’s return, humanitarian aid to meet the population’s immediate needs for food and shelter, and safe corridors so people can move around. In a short time, we could transform most of Gaza from a war zone into functioning communities. When the rebuilding has begun, Hamas can negotiate with Israel for the release of hostages in exchange for safe passage out of Gaza. Let them go to Qatar, Turkey or wherever their enablers will have them. We don’t want them among us.
What comes next for Gaza must be determined by the people themselves, a choice we have been denied for nearly two decades. For now, our focus remains on saving as many lives as possible and laying the foundations for a better future. On behalf of the overwhelming majority of Palestinians in Gaza, the Popular Forces call on the U.S. and Arab countries formally to recognize and support an independent Palestinian administration under our leadership.
From eastern Rafah—where families now sleep safely under civil protection—I can see Gaza’s future. The question is: Will the world help build it with us, free from the ideologies of violence and terror?

dairydebris · 24/09/2025 17:27

tramtracks · 24/09/2025 17:24

Are we sure Hamas isn’t on Mumsnet…
I think all social media is infiltrated by all groups, terrorise or non terrorist.

If they are they'll be absolutely overjoyed with what they read on here. 😬