Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Conflict in the Middle East

App to boycott Israeli goods

1000 replies

Everexpanding · 14/09/2025 10:49

the “No Thanks” app, which first appeared almost two years ago carrying a large list of companies and brands consumers might consider boycotting because of Israeli links.
The app has become a key tool for the BDS movement that targets Israel economically for the actions of its government and its military in Gaza.
Along with a list of companies and brands to boycott, the app allows users to scan barcodes to find out more about the relationship particular products have with Israel.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
72
Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 23:43

The Norwegian Wealth Fund too, the list is getting longer

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/26/norway-wealth-fund-excludes-caterpillar-over-israel-allegations

OP posts:
Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 23:45

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 23:31

when it is being aggressively used to try and shut down justified criticism and a justified boycott of a country responsible for multiple breaches of international law, enforced starvation of a civilian population and the murder of 20,000 ++++++++ children it is relevant but from the growing number of groups speaking out and initiating their own boycotts it does seem to be losing it’s power as a silencing smear

Film makers https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-4000-actors-filmmakers-sign-pledge-to-boycott-israeli-film-industry-over-gaza/amp/

Musicians
www.thenational.scot/news/25480882.400-artists-ban-music-streaming-platforms-israel/

Football: www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-scrambling-to-prevent-tuesday-vote-on-expelling-country-from-european-soccer

Those things might affect whether or not a boycott is imposed, or justified, but have absolutely nothing to do with whether the Jewish people are entitled, like other ethnic groups, to self-determination.

The right of a group to self-determination is not, or should not be, dependent on whether all members of that group behave well, or in a way approved of by others.

I can’t be bothered to continue on this thread. You are determined not to answer a simple question and I can only speculate on your reason.

All I can say is I am appalled at the unashamed bigotry shown by some people online.

OP posts:
Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 23:51

FT headline if no access

It’s our South Africa moment’: the growing global boycott of Israel

OP posts:
DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 23:53

Possible brain drain. That would hit hard

GladioliGreen · 21/09/2025 23:54

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 23:48

article from the Financial Times on the growing boycott

https://www.ft.com/content/0a844acf-36c2-4313-8d0a-181ae220221f

I think it's great to see the cultural boycott growing. Its so important, especially when you are dealing with a country like Israel. Cultural boycotts target a countries soft power, their identity, image and reputation in the world something that we all know is very important to Israel. Let's hope that this momentum keeps building.

ScrollingLeaves · 21/09/2025 23:59

quantumbutterfly · 21/09/2025 23:34

Did you read what you were agreeing to?

What did I agree to?

I read a list of other countries someone had written (not Israel) where outrages against innocent people’s lives are also being carried out, and by “All of them” I was meaning to say I am aware of those other countries’ crimes - even though they aren’t Israel - and react accordingly.

How many times has the, “What about Russia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, China?” been used to derail threads?

quantumbutterfly · 22/09/2025 00:06

ScrollingLeaves · 21/09/2025 23:59

What did I agree to?

I read a list of other countries someone had written (not Israel) where outrages against innocent people’s lives are also being carried out, and by “All of them” I was meaning to say I am aware of those other countries’ crimes - even though they aren’t Israel - and react accordingly.

How many times has the, “What about Russia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, China?” been used to derail threads?

Quote history is in front of you.
@Princessconsuelabananahammock last line.'is it only Jews we hold to account?' and you said ,'all of them'.

Including that last line?? Surely not.

ScrollingLeaves · 22/09/2025 00:18

quantumbutterfly · 22/09/2025 00:06

Quote history is in front of you.
@Princessconsuelabananahammock last line.'is it only Jews we hold to account?' and you said ,'all of them'.

Including that last line?? Surely not.

So now here is the full quote,

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock ·14/09/2025 18:47
Is there one for brands with Chinese links, after their genocide of Uyghur Muslims?
How about one for brands with ties to Iran after their funding of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis?
Or one for brands with ties to the UAE after they happily transfer weapons to Sudan after the recent genocide there?
Or one for brands with ties to Russia?
Or is it only Jews we hold to account?

I had answered “All of them”.

No I did not mean I held all Jews to account, I meant I held all the other countries in the deflect- from- Israel list to account.

quantumbutterfly · 22/09/2025 00:25

ScrollingLeaves · 22/09/2025 00:18

So now here is the full quote,

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock ·14/09/2025 18:47
Is there one for brands with Chinese links, after their genocide of Uyghur Muslims?
How about one for brands with ties to Iran after their funding of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis?
Or one for brands with ties to the UAE after they happily transfer weapons to Sudan after the recent genocide there?
Or one for brands with ties to Russia?
Or is it only Jews we hold to account?

I had answered “All of them”.

No I did not mean I held all Jews to account, I meant I held all the other countries in the deflect- from- Israel list to account.

The devil is in the details.

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 06:04

Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 23:45

Those things might affect whether or not a boycott is imposed, or justified, but have absolutely nothing to do with whether the Jewish people are entitled, like other ethnic groups, to self-determination.

The right of a group to self-determination is not, or should not be, dependent on whether all members of that group behave well, or in a way approved of by others.

I can’t be bothered to continue on this thread. You are determined not to answer a simple question and I can only speculate on your reason.

All I can say is I am appalled at the unashamed bigotry shown by some people online.

Edited

They’ve answered it by not answering the question about whether Jewish people are entitled to self - determination.

And other people have agreed with the poster’s stance so they’ve answered the question too.

Not worth engaging with.

SharonEllis · 22/09/2025 06:19

GladioliGreen · 21/09/2025 23:34

Given the reaction of some here to the UKs recognition of Palestine today I think its obvious that quite a few posters here wish for Palestine not to exist. They are against Palestinians right to self determination and open about it, I don't see why one is worse than the other tbh and it's quite funny to see the same posters acting outraged when they think people don't agree with Israels right to exist.

For the record I am pro both territories right to exist. Everybody should have the right to self determination.

I wasn't aware abyone on this thread had mentioned the recognition of Palestine so I dont see the relevance. I dont think I've ever come across a pro-Israeli on this board who easn't pro 2 states so this is something of a strawman.

Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:19

Writers and publishers set up their boycott in 2024

publishersforpalestine.org/2024/12/12/7000-authors-and-book-workers-join-historic-boycott-against-complicit-israeli-publishers/

OP posts:
UltraCynica · 22/09/2025 08:30

Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:19

Michael Rosen has been writing some really powerful stuff explaining his stance.
So many amazing and strong people standing up for other humans.

Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:48

Yes so many individuals and groups speaking out, so many Jewish people saying not in my name.

There does seem to be a shift

“This dissonance is perhaps not surprising given the government’s reaction to the crisis, which Lovatt described as ‘a well-known playbook’. ‘[It includes] smear[ing] anything that is critical of Israel and the war in Gaza as antisemitic,’ he said. ‘Maybe now, finally, the regularity with which such accusations are being used has blunted their effectiveness.’

Yoan, a, 21-year-old secular Jew, said: ‘Many people say to themselves “Oh, the whole world hates us”. It’s the classic antisemitism [accusation]. But I feel like this isn’t really the case because, at the start of the war, there was generally big support for Israel …”

OP posts:
Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:54

Here is a link to Michel Rosen”s Don’t Mention The Children” , sad but powerful

m.youtube.com/watch?v=tENn0dTF2eY

OP posts:
Gloriia · 22/09/2025 08:58

Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:19

Just awful isn't fit. Israeli publishers What have they done?

March, protest against the IDF and the isreali government all you like but targeting civilians is incredibly hypocritical. Aren't they innocent too like the gazans?

Nice and absolutely unsurprising to see hamas are celebrating Starmer's announcement yesterday, he must be very proud of himself. As an aside it astounds me how they can just do this and no vote is required.

Kakeandkake · 22/09/2025 08:59

Gloriia · 22/09/2025 08:58

Just awful isn't fit. Israeli publishers What have they done?

March, protest against the IDF and the isreali government all you like but targeting civilians is incredibly hypocritical. Aren't they innocent too like the gazans?

Nice and absolutely unsurprising to see hamas are celebrating Starmer's announcement yesterday, he must be very proud of himself. As an aside it astounds me how they can just do this and no vote is required.

Do you think you should have been given a vote? 😂

UltraCynica · 22/09/2025 09:01

Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:54

Here is a link to Michel Rosen”s Don’t Mention The Children” , sad but powerful

m.youtube.com/watch?v=tENn0dTF2eY

So powerful.

Michael Rosen is an absolute legend.

EllaDisenchanted · 22/09/2025 10:37

GladioliGreen · 21/09/2025 23:34

Given the reaction of some here to the UKs recognition of Palestine today I think its obvious that quite a few posters here wish for Palestine not to exist. They are against Palestinians right to self determination and open about it, I don't see why one is worse than the other tbh and it's quite funny to see the same posters acting outraged when they think people don't agree with Israels right to exist.

For the record I am pro both territories right to exist. Everybody should have the right to self determination.

I am strongly against what Keir has done, but am pro a two state solution. Politically, Hamas will take it as confirmation that October 7th was the right action for them, and entrench, and Israeli government will feel betrayed by allies, so what’s left to restrain them? They will likely double down too. The chances of negotiating a hostage release and end to the war to me just went out the window. Why would Hamas give them back if the western countries have just shown them that they will give them what they want without any strings attached?
A promise of declaration of a state could have been used as a powerful bargaining chip to bring the conflict to an end.
Mean this respectfully, but i do think it’s unfair to assume the worst of posters that being against Keir’s actions means being against Palestinian right to self determination.

IWasScaredToBeHeld · 22/09/2025 11:09

Everexpanding · 22/09/2025 08:48

Yes so many individuals and groups speaking out, so many Jewish people saying not in my name.

There does seem to be a shift

“This dissonance is perhaps not surprising given the government’s reaction to the crisis, which Lovatt described as ‘a well-known playbook’. ‘[It includes] smear[ing] anything that is critical of Israel and the war in Gaza as antisemitic,’ he said. ‘Maybe now, finally, the regularity with which such accusations are being used has blunted their effectiveness.’

Yoan, a, 21-year-old secular Jew, said: ‘Many people say to themselves “Oh, the whole world hates us”. It’s the classic antisemitism [accusation]. But I feel like this isn’t really the case because, at the start of the war, there was generally big support for Israel …”

It does feel as though something has changed in the last few months

Kakeandkake · 22/09/2025 11:14

And where is the blame right now for what is happening with the extremist Israeli government who are carrying out a genocide? Have their actions not led to what is happening today in anyway? What did they think would happen after they murdered and injured countless Palestinians and flattened Gaza?

Kakeandkake · 22/09/2025 11:16

IWasScaredToBeHeld · 22/09/2025 11:09

It does feel as though something has changed in the last few months

What has changed is it has become increasingly apparent that Israel is carrying out a genocide and western government's are doing the minimum they feel they need to do, to not be seen as complicit.

Kakeandkake · 22/09/2025 11:17

Maybe put some blame on extremist ministers who are openly talking about how they are going to carve up Gaza and build luxury homes for themselves on the graves of Palestinian children.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 22/09/2025 11:19

Kakeandkake · 22/09/2025 11:16

What has changed is it has become increasingly apparent that Israel is carrying out a genocide and western government's are doing the minimum they feel they need to do, to not be seen as complicit.

Honestly, it's been obvious from the beginning. They've said so since the beginning. What's changed? Is that some people have gone? ' oh they actually meant it'.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread