App to boycott Israeli goods

[Everexpanding]

the “No Thanks” app, which first appeared almost two years ago carrying a large list of companies and brands consumers might consider boycotting because of Israeli links.
The app has become a key tool for the BDS movement that targets Israel economically for the actions of its government and its military in Gaza.
Along with a list of companies and brands to boycott, the app allows users to scan barcodes to find out more about the relationship particular products have with Israel.

The Zionist entity? Now where have I heard that before?

Un experts deemed the pager attack a gross violation of international law on a personal basis Netanyahu gifting gold pagers as some warped commemoration gift is really revolting given the scale of casualties

The attacks reportedly killed at least 32 people and maimed or injured 3,250, including 200 critically. Among the dead were a boy and a girl, as well as medical personnel. Around 500 people suffered severe eye injuries, including a diplomat. Others suffered grave injuries to their faces, hands and bodies.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/09/exploding-pagers-and-radios-terrifying-violation-international-law-say-un

What is the 'zionist entity' and what have Christian zionists got to do with what we are duscussing? Anyone can be a zionist (I am an atheist and a zionist) but zionism only relates to Jews.

But who was holding / near the pagers was not specified

“To the extent that international humanitarian law applies, at the time of the attacks there was no way of knowing who possessed each device and who was nearby,” the experts said. “Simultaneous attacks by thousands of devices would inevitably violate humanitarian law, by failing to verify each target, and distinguish between protected civilians and those who could potentially be attacked for taking a direct part in hostilities."
“Such attacks could constitute war crimes of murder, attacking civilians, and launching indiscriminate attacks, in addition to violating the right to life,” the experts said.
Humanitarian law additionally prohibits the use of booby-traps disguised as apparently harmless portable objects.”

but hey just one in a long list of Israeli war crimes hence the need to boycott

@Larrypitt do you think Palestinians have aright to self determination? Their own state ?
Life? Food? humanitarian aid? A childhood?

Don't change the subject. One more time. Do you believe that the Jewish people have the right to self determination in their own state, because consistently today yohr posts suggest otherwise. Its a simple yes or no question.

'but hey just one in a long list of Israeli war crimes hence the need to boycott'

Just another in a long list of Israel targeting terrorists but yes you carry on avoiding the co op.

Which diplomat had a Hezbollah pager, the Iranian one?

Because civilians are innocent !!!!

Think you’ve missed the point about the Co op there.

RTT

Just to be clear for anyone joining the thread midway
We are not boycotting the coop. Quite the reverse as they are the only supermarket no longer selling any products from Israel.

The coop are boycotting Israel and we support that

remember @Everexpanding you can just ignore these demands for answers. It’s not like they’re relevant to the thread.

Yeah sorry I'm getting all my boycotts mixed up. You carry on shopping at the co op and I'll carry on avoiding it.

. . . and just like that - the words of people are twisted and the thread is totally derailled by people literally desperate to silence anyone who disagrees with the Genocide in happening in Gaza.

Absolutely disgusting lack of humanity.

boycotted due to the statement you made saying Jews are an ethnic group, a belief Jewish organisations hold to be anti semitic.

We all have different views and opinions, it's a chat forum so as long as those thoughts are shared within TGs then fine.There isn't a lack of humanity at all. There is often a lack of concern regarding the starved and tortured hostages, I find that quite 'disgusting'.

I personally find these publicity grabbing boycotts and has- been celebs using a conflict to raise their profile sickening but what can you do. If folk want to boycott a shop fine, as we've said hummus is readily available via many outlets. Phew!

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Oh, right. So they just never mention the other conflicts or demonstrate week after week in London and other major cities about them, or put on marches, or lobby MPs about it, or any of the many other ways people go on about Gaza constantly.

But they really care about them. Sure, Jan.

You are speaking to me so by definition you are not boycotting me.

You have refused time and time again to answer whether you believe Jewish people have the right to self determination in Israel. We can only conclude therefore that you do not. The basis of your argumebt seems to be that the Jewish people are not an ethnic group but a religious group with the same status as other religions, atheists, or most bizarre of all, gay people.

You have tried to twist our conversation by deflecting from your antisemitism by maintaining that I am antisemitic because I said Jewish people are an ethnic group and claiming this is something Jews think is antisemitic.

According to the UK civil service Jewish network Jewish people are recognised as both a religious and ethnic minority under UK law.

You can find this on gov.uk.

Stephen Pollard, well-known Jewish commentator, twitter 7 December 2023 Jewish people are recognised as both a religious and ethnic minority according to UK Law since the term was first used, for the simple reason that we are an ethnic minority.

See also Mandla v. Dowell Lee which ruled Jews were an ethnic minority under the UK RR act later see also The Equality Act

Danny Finkekstein addresses your approach here:
https://www.thejc.com/opinion/why-people-refuse-to-see-jews-as-an-ethnic-minority-kscr60ed

But the Holocaust made clear that arguing that Judaism was a religion rather than an ethnicity was no protection at all. It’s therefore been decades since Jews seriously advanced this case.

Most pertinent:

As David Baddiel has shown so brilliantly in his path-breaking Jews Don’t Count, prejudice against Jews is often simply dismissed. The real reason for this is that Jews are considered by progressives to be too powerful and wealthy to require protection.
But few people are ready to make this argument publicly. Instead, they just ignore altogether the Jewish claim to be considered an ethnic minority. Judaism is just a religion and its adherents are white people with a particular take on the almighty.

I favour a two-state solution. I have already said I disagree with many of the policies of Netanyahu and his government.

Israelites have been associated with the area since at least the Iron Age. Many ancestors of the people now called Palestinians also had associations with the area, though many also came originally from one or other of the approx. 50 majority-Muslim states in existence.

On the creation of the state of Israel in 1948 many Arabs were displaced. Around the same time, many hundreds of thousands of Jews had all their belongings confiscated and were forced to leave the Middle Eastern countries where their families had lived for hundreds of years. https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/the-expulsion-of-jews-from-arab-countries-and-iran--an-untold-history
Many others had survived the Nazi attempts to murder them all but were stateless. So they moved themselves and their families to other countries, one of which was Israel, and built new lives. They didn’t regard themselves as permanent refugees.

With regard to the second part of your question, with its attempt at emotive heartstrings-tugging: of course. Just as Jews are, despite the despicable way they have been treated and persecuted throughout the ages as a minority in other countries. That’s why they need a country - just one country, is all they’re asking for - of their own, where they can live in relative safety.

You are making yourself look very silly. Do you actually know what "boycott" means? It doesn’t sound like it.

I suggest you ask Google "Are Jews an ethnic group?"

So, @Everexpanding now we have established that the Jewish people are considered an ethnic/ethno-religious group, do you accept that the Jewish people have the right of self-determination?

Do you think Palestinians have a right
to self determination?
Their own state ?
Their own land?
Life?
Food?
humanitarian aid?
A childhood?
Equal rights?
Safety from bombing?
fair trial?
Medical care?
Education?
Clean water?
These are all things Israel have deprived them of in contravention of international law