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App to boycott Israeli goods

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Everexpanding · 14/09/2025 10:49

the “No Thanks” app, which first appeared almost two years ago carrying a large list of companies and brands consumers might consider boycotting because of Israeli links.
The app has become a key tool for the BDS movement that targets Israel economically for the actions of its government and its military in Gaza.
Along with a list of companies and brands to boycott, the app allows users to scan barcodes to find out more about the relationship particular products have with Israel.

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Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 17:10

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SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 17:14

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 17:08

Do you think Palestinians have a right
to self determination?
Their own state ?
Their own land?
Life?
Food?
humanitarian aid?
A childhood?
Equal rights?
Safety from bombing?
fair trial?
Medical care?
Education?
Clean water?
These are all things Israel have deprived them of in contravention of international law

I don't know who you are addressing this to and I can only speak for myself. The answer to all those questions is yes. Obviously. Palestinians are no different ti anyone else and everyone has a right to those things. Its beyond me why you think anyone would disagree.

Now. Please answer my question. Do the Jewish people have the right to self determination?

Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 17:16

willowtree99 · 21/09/2025 14:46

There are far more Christian zionists than there are Jewish zionists.

Given what we know of the terror attack in Lebanon i would not only not want an Israeli manufactured pager, but also one which had no association with the zionist entity throughout its supply chain.

Please can you explain exactly what "the zionist entity" means?

Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 17:18

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 17:14

I don't know who you are addressing this to and I can only speak for myself. The answer to all those questions is yes. Obviously. Palestinians are no different ti anyone else and everyone has a right to those things. Its beyond me why you think anyone would disagree.

Now. Please answer my question. Do the Jewish people have the right to self determination?

Come on @Everexpanding , we've answered your questions. Your turn. Don’t be shy.

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 17:47

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 17:14

I don't know who you are addressing this to and I can only speak for myself. The answer to all those questions is yes. Obviously. Palestinians are no different ti anyone else and everyone has a right to those things. Its beyond me why you think anyone would disagree.

Now. Please answer my question. Do the Jewish people have the right to self determination?

What are you doing to ensure they have these rights ?

you will need to define exactly what you mean by Jewish self determination before I could possibly answer?

as I said I am an atheist and believe church and state should always be separate and people of all religions and ethnicities should be treated equally under law so probably the wrong person to ask about matters pertaining to religion

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DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 17:55

Gloriia · 21/09/2025 15:39

Yeah sorry I'm getting all my boycotts mixed up. You carry on shopping at the co op and I'll carry on avoiding it.

Thanks I wasn’t sure what was going on there Gloriia 👍

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 17:55

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 17:47

What are you doing to ensure they have these rights ?

you will need to define exactly what you mean by Jewish self determination before I could possibly answer?

as I said I am an atheist and believe church and state should always be separate and people of all religions and ethnicities should be treated equally under law so probably the wrong person to ask about matters pertaining to religion

Have you read anything I have posted? It is not a matter pertaining to religion. Jews are an ethnic group. A secular, completely non-observant, atheist Jew is still a Jew.

It is a simple question and I am not playing this game any longer. You have avoided the question, deflected, inverted, tried to call me antisemitic.

Of course, you know full well what self determination means. Your various posts add up to only one conclusion, that you don't believe the Jewish people have the right to self determination.

And under the IHRA definition of antisemitism denying the Jewish people the right to self determination is antisemitic.

Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 18:04

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DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 18:08

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 17:47

What are you doing to ensure they have these rights ?

you will need to define exactly what you mean by Jewish self determination before I could possibly answer?

as I said I am an atheist and believe church and state should always be separate and people of all religions and ethnicities should be treated equally under law so probably the wrong person to ask about matters pertaining to religion

Basic AI response @Everexpanding on every ‘groups’ right to self determination

It is enshrined in International law.

I agree though, everyone is equal and should be treated with equal respect and have equal rights

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Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:17

I just said that I think all people regardless of ethnicity or religion should be treated equally under the law and that church and state should always separate how you quite have managed to twist that into an allegation of anti semitism I do not know @SharonEllis but I can’t say I can fathom what goes on in your mind.
yes @Larrypitt I repeat I think church and state should always be separate in all countries whatever the religion, people should be treated equally
i think that is where we differ
Criticism of a state repeatedly breaching international law and slaughtering 65,000 people is justified and sorry to disappoint does not stem from anti semitism just basic human compassion look that up

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Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 18:20

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:17

I just said that I think all people regardless of ethnicity or religion should be treated equally under the law and that church and state should always separate how you quite have managed to twist that into an allegation of anti semitism I do not know @SharonEllis but I can’t say I can fathom what goes on in your mind.
yes @Larrypitt I repeat I think church and state should always be separate in all countries whatever the religion, people should be treated equally
i think that is where we differ
Criticism of a state repeatedly breaching international law and slaughtering 65,000 people is justified and sorry to disappoint does not stem from anti semitism just basic human compassion look that up

And you’re still wriggling around to avoid answering a simple question.

Do you think Jews, as an ethnic group, have the right to self-determination?

Yes or no?

Incidentally, about 20% of Israeli citizens are non-Jews, the majority being Arabs. They are represented in all layers of society, including the government. You might like to compare that to the treatment of non-Muslims in majority-Muslim countries.

To repeat: Do you think Jews, as an ethnic group, have the right to self-determination?

Yes or no?

willowtree99 · 21/09/2025 18:20

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DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 18:21

UltraCynica · 21/09/2025 15:49

. . . and just like that - the words of people are twisted and the thread is totally derailled by people literally desperate to silence anyone who disagrees with the Genocide in happening in Gaza.

Absolutely disgusting lack of humanity.

Agree
This is how humanity used to be silenced !
past tense

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 18:24

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:17

I just said that I think all people regardless of ethnicity or religion should be treated equally under the law and that church and state should always separate how you quite have managed to twist that into an allegation of anti semitism I do not know @SharonEllis but I can’t say I can fathom what goes on in your mind.
yes @Larrypitt I repeat I think church and state should always be separate in all countries whatever the religion, people should be treated equally
i think that is where we differ
Criticism of a state repeatedly breaching international law and slaughtering 65,000 people is justified and sorry to disappoint does not stem from anti semitism just basic human compassion look that up

Obviously the antisemitic bit is denying that the Jewish people are an ethnic group so that you can deny them rights on the grounds of being a purely religious group. Its there in black and white in my posts, particularly the quotes.

You are still refusing to say that you believe they do have the right of self determination. If there is any other interpretation, please enlighten us.

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:27

Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 18:20

And you’re still wriggling around to avoid answering a simple question.

Do you think Jews, as an ethnic group, have the right to self-determination?

Yes or no?

Incidentally, about 20% of Israeli citizens are non-Jews, the majority being Arabs. They are represented in all layers of society, including the government. You might like to compare that to the treatment of non-Muslims in majority-Muslim countries.

To repeat: Do you think Jews, as an ethnic group, have the right to self-determination?

Yes or no?

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Cannot respond unless you expand on how this works in practice beyond parroting the same question?

do I think Israel has carte blanche to repeatedly and shamelessly break multiple international laws as it is doing currently I would say no and I think that it needs to be held to account.Do you?

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Larrypitt · 21/09/2025 18:30

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I take it you’re referring, in your ludicrously biased way, to the legitimate state created by the United Nations in 1948. How odd.

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 18:30

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:27

Cannot respond unless you expand on how this works in practice beyond parroting the same question?

do I think Israel has carte blanche to repeatedly and shamelessly break multiple international laws as it is doing currently I would say no and I think that it needs to be held to account.Do you?

That is not the question. Its a simple yes or no answer.

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:40

@SharonEllis I would need to do proper and thorough research.

i have been reading recently mainly about the human rights abuses, war crimes and breaches of international law that are being carried out by the Israeli State such as the use of torture on Palestinians in Sde Teiman,

https://theconversation.com/israeli-doctors-reveal-their-conflicted-stories-of-treating-palestinian-prisoners-held-in-notorious-black-site-sde-teiman-264091

there is an awful lot to read

Israeli doctors reveal their conflicted stories of treating Palestinian prisoners held in notorious ‘black site’ Sde Teiman

Israeli medical staff who treated Palestinian captives in the wake of the October 7 attacks say they are haunted by their experiences.

https://theconversation.com/israeli-doctors-reveal-their-conflicted-stories-of-treating-palestinian-prisoners-held-in-notorious-black-site-sde-teiman-264091

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DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 18:41

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:27

Cannot respond unless you expand on how this works in practice beyond parroting the same question?

do I think Israel has carte blanche to repeatedly and shamelessly break multiple international laws as it is doing currently I would say no and I think that it needs to be held to account.Do you?

Israels right or any groups right to self determination has nothing to do with Israel’s genocidal actions and the need for boycotts. That right does not make them immune and I’m sure no one on here would expect that

So the point is irrelevant on here

Theres a thread about bulldozering Gaza, so clearly more relevant there

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 18:45

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:40

@SharonEllis I would need to do proper and thorough research.

i have been reading recently mainly about the human rights abuses, war crimes and breaches of international law that are being carried out by the Israeli State such as the use of torture on Palestinians in Sde Teiman,

https://theconversation.com/israeli-doctors-reveal-their-conflicted-stories-of-treating-palestinian-prisoners-held-in-notorious-black-site-sde-teiman-264091

there is an awful lot to read

This is irrelavant. Completely irrelevant to the question of the Jewish people's right to self determination.

Its also completely extraordinary that you are admitting to not having done even the most basic research when you have such strong views and are regularly posting. How does a person come to have such views based on no knowledge?

DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 18:51

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:40

@SharonEllis I would need to do proper and thorough research.

i have been reading recently mainly about the human rights abuses, war crimes and breaches of international law that are being carried out by the Israeli State such as the use of torture on Palestinians in Sde Teiman,

https://theconversation.com/israeli-doctors-reveal-their-conflicted-stories-of-treating-palestinian-prisoners-held-in-notorious-black-site-sde-teiman-264091

there is an awful lot to read

Thanks for posting that but I couldn’t cope with reading it all.
I got to the point of them chained to a bed, blindfolded, spoon fed with liquid feed and in diapers for two months in a temporary ‘medical’ facility and I couldn’t continue reading.

Boycott !!

Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:54

I like to concentrate on people and their right to live with dignity and tbe protected by international law@SharonEllis not semantics, this thread is about an app which allows people to boycott Israeli goods a tiny thing they can do to oppose the indiscriminate killing of approximately 65,000 people, 20,,000 children .
if you do not wish to use the app that is your choice. There are many apps out there which you can choose to boycott anything of your choice.

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Everexpanding · 21/09/2025 18:55

DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 18:51

Thanks for posting that but I couldn’t cope with reading it all.
I got to the point of them chained to a bed, blindfolded, spoon fed with liquid feed and in diapers for two months in a temporary ‘medical’ facility and I couldn’t continue reading.

Boycott !!

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I know it’s disturbing sorry should have warned
@DrPrunesqualer

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Pasly · 21/09/2025 18:56

SharonEllis · 21/09/2025 18:45

This is irrelavant. Completely irrelevant to the question of the Jewish people's right to self determination.

Its also completely extraordinary that you are admitting to not having done even the most basic research when you have such strong views and are regularly posting. How does a person come to have such views based on no knowledge?

This is irrelavant
It is very relevant to this thread! Maybe not to your derail so maybe start your own thread if you want to continue that discussion.

DrPrunesqualer · 21/09/2025 18:56

I do wonder now whether more Sanctions from the U.K. and others will follow

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