A famine has been declared in Gaza city

[SaltAirAndTheRust]

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481

Meanwhile, up to 80,000 troops are being prepared to start an offensive there. There are no longer any words

The IPC research and assess whether Famine is occurring
They can’t be forced by other arms within the UN to do so

The UN repost the findings
The IPC work alongside many others including globally recognised charities

Netanyahu disagrees but he would wouldnt he. He’s a liar and denier

Read any other post I’ve written on here or any CITME thread and you’ll see we are in agreement. Again, the reason people are calling out Israel’s war crimes isn’t a case of picking sides, it’s because they are so obvious.

Incredible @SaltAirAndTheRust has so much to say but is unfamiliar with Hamas's war crimes. This board never ceases to amaze.

Complete destruction of medical infrastructure. Schools destroyed. Residential areas raised to the ground. Even if there is a ceasefire tomorrow Palestine will not be rebuilt. Entire families have been killed. Three or more generations traumatised. Starvation has reached a level that is hard to return from, it not entirely impossible. One third of the children in Palestine have been killed. What do you call that?

I want the sources because you will continually argue against actual, proven war crimes by Israel, by saying “oh but Hamas!!!” So put your money where your mouth is and show that Hamas have done something to justify a genocide.

You don't think many of Hamas's are obvious?

You don't think you have a responsibility to dig a bit deeper to uncover those that are harder to get at because of the nature of the way they operate, such as suppressing their population.

OP is there any way MNHQ can request a stop to the derails

This is a thread about famine. A sensitive and upsetting subject.

Sadly, no.

Nobody said they had done anything to justify genocide. Stop moving the goalposts. But Im not spending my time proving Hamas has and is committed/ing countless war crimes. Its like asking us to prove the sun comes up in the morning. Ridiculous.

How ironic when you’re faced with actual, verified evidence of Israel’s war crimes and you’ve stuck your fingers in your ears and gone “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU”

Hamas’s well documented and filmed actions on 7/10 alone were enough to justify a war. Don’t you think?

Yet you demand every single claim about Israel is proven? You are literally defending genocide.

I don’t doubt that there’s a food crisis in Gaza with almost a majority of aid trucks being diverted as per the UN’s own figures, but I would like to know how this has been independently assessed on the ground as the information can only have come from Hamas, i.e. Palestinians will obviously say what they’re told to say at risk of execution by Hamas.

I repeat what I posted earlier - where has the 2 million tonnes of aid gone and why are there hundreds of trucks sitting in Gaza waiting to be distributed in a famine!

Also why is is there a discrepancy of 6000 trucks going into Gaza in the UNs figures and COGAT’s figures?

No I do not think 7/10 was enough to justify a genocide. 7/10 was awful, yet I can also see that it is no justification for what is currently occurring.

But it was justification for retaliation, yes?

Retaliation, yes. But this has long crossed the line of retaliation.

When have a demanded every single claim about Israel is proven. What on earth are you talking about? I am not, and have never, dedended genocide. Stop making personal attacks.

Vile genocide deniers, excusers and justifiers have been politely asked to leave this thread - start your own thread on Hamas or whatever you want.

Its like arguing with flat earthers at this point.

There is a consensus amongst genocide scholars that Israel is committing a genocide.

At what point did you stop supporting Israel then if you initially felt the retaliation was justified?

This article gives you more information

i guess there are others aswell if you Google
Famine in Gaza / stats / analysis etc

You are literally defending genocide.

Unbelievable.

I’m Vivi0, business owner and mother of 2. I enjoy cooking, painting and am a keen defender of genocide.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

I don’t believe Israel are committing genocide at all, but that doesn’t make one a genocide defender.

Tulip there has been nothing polite about your recent posts on this thread and you don’t get to tell people where to post.

Do you think Hamas did something to justify a war though?

Genuine question.

I ask this from a standpoint of believing a war is taking place with the unusual environment of a government using its own civilians as collateral damage for its own cause, not a genocide, but you are entitled to hold your own opposing view on that while still answering the above question.

This isn’t a war.

I have said multiple times. 7/10 was awful. Israel was right to retaliate. Israel are not right to be enacting a genocide.